Racism And Double Standards
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<div class="IPBDescription">Hypocrisy and the like</div> This is about the sort of double standards we see with those claiming to be proponents of equality and tolerance for all.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->For one thing, I have never heard of White Nationalism before, and my instinctive reaction was "oh jeez, not some racist Klan crap", but you surprised me, Afterglow. Well done. But on to the topic at hand....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There's nothing against the poster of this statement here, (very much to his credit he made an intelligent assessment of the statements) but as an example, his instinct was to assume that it was something highly racist. This is a growing trend in the U.S. (and I would assume in other countries as well) where having racial pride if you're of one race is lauded, but degraded if you're of another. It's ok to have groups, clubs, or organizations for members of a certain race only, but if you're of a different race and try to make a race only club, you're immediately attacked, and your group shut down. In some cases, in the U.S., universities give more weight to applicants of one race over another, (a less qualified applicant of one race would make it in over a more qualified applicant of a different race) and the same can be true when applying for a job.
My question is why is this the case? Why is this not only tolerated, but applauded and accepted by society? Post your thoughts.
Please, to anyone who is just going to call others racists, you aren't welcome in this thread.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->For one thing, I have never heard of White Nationalism before, and my instinctive reaction was "oh jeez, not some racist Klan crap", but you surprised me, Afterglow. Well done. But on to the topic at hand....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There's nothing against the poster of this statement here, (very much to his credit he made an intelligent assessment of the statements) but as an example, his instinct was to assume that it was something highly racist. This is a growing trend in the U.S. (and I would assume in other countries as well) where having racial pride if you're of one race is lauded, but degraded if you're of another. It's ok to have groups, clubs, or organizations for members of a certain race only, but if you're of a different race and try to make a race only club, you're immediately attacked, and your group shut down. In some cases, in the U.S., universities give more weight to applicants of one race over another, (a less qualified applicant of one race would make it in over a more qualified applicant of a different race) and the same can be true when applying for a job.
My question is why is this the case? Why is this not only tolerated, but applauded and accepted by society? Post your thoughts.
Please, to anyone who is just going to call others racists, you aren't welcome in this thread.
This discussion has been closed.
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White Nationalism is a term often used by members of groups like the KKK and other racist organisation, I am not saying that is necesarily always used in this way, however it often is, and thus don't get down on some one believing that white nationalism = racism (b/c it often does).
As for Afirmative Action (what you described is PART of AA), well there are problems with it. Some people see it as revers racism (It is often much esier to find scolarships if you are a minority, simply b/c there are few scoarships reserved for white/predominently white groups like the Daughters of the American Revoloution(DAR))., I personaly have some problems with it, though I am not all out for aboloishing it, mainly just twaeking.
I Am a WASP (White Anglo-Saxson Protestant, though I am not actualy Protestant, thats what my family is) From NYC, AKA The Majority (not realy, but often looked upon as they are), thats just to get some of my biases out in the open <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I like the concept of working for equality, Programs like Headstart and others that aim to get underprivlaged children an extra advantage are GREAT! I would like it if everything was colorblind, but it isn't, thus these programs tend to be aimed at Minorities (minorities still have statisticly lower incomes, thus lower income neighborhoods, thus worse schools).
However, I frown upon the idea of making life easier for minorities, simply b/c I don't think that this is doing them any real favors often. Giving a job/place in a college/whatever to some one who is less prepared then a non minority, is sorta silly. If some one isn't going to beable to cut it in a job/school, then letting them in dosn't do anything, aside from setting them up for a fall.
What I would like to see is more programs aimed at helping raise the education level of every one. Stamping out of racisim (of all sorts) would be nice, but it aint gona hapen any time soon, so untill then I will setle for the less perfect meathods.
Oh, and As for things like 'white people' groups, well, there are alot of them:
Itallians, Irishs, Germans and others all had clubs at my school (admitadly my HS was Bronx Science, farily diverse and liberal). We also had:
Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Black...
heck, here is the list:
<a href='http://www.bxscience.edu/student_activities.jsp' target='_blank'>http://www.bxscience.edu/student_activities.jsp</a>
The 2 that I was a member in?
Role Players
Science Fiction Fantasy (originaly just SciFi, pronounced as skif ee)
Those were actualy 2 of the more diverse organisations, after all geeks come in all colours <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'm guessing it's some sort of social guilt. It's a similar thing with sexism - every other advert seems to be the "Stupid Man, Clever Woman" model. If they switched it around, it would be called sexist.
while being anti-racist is good, you've kinda highlighted the problem that most people overlook; positive racism. Proper equality gives no advantages or disadvantages, negative racism (the one most people refer to) hurts or puts at a disadvantage people based on race and the lesser acknowledged positive racism basically hurts or puts at a disadvantage people based on NOT being of a race, albeit indirectly, as it goes out of it's way to place those of the race(s) being discrimated for in a better position.
Ideally applications to jobs wouldn't have things asking of your ethnic origin (notice most job application have that?) and a heck of a lot of other things.
It's like scales... if you push one down others go up, if you pull one up the others go down. It'd be better if people learned to drop the whole sex/race thing entirely but lets face it; it ain't happening =3
What the **** is 35%? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I am part white, part asian, and a little american indian. I have been assaulted because I am white and called names because I was asian.
I think a major cause of the double standards are activist groups. The groups are formed to do good, but often go over board. This is from Afterglow's post in another thread:
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The 15 year old girl in Ohio for wanting to start a
Cacasion club was hassled by HER local NAACP and shut down even when the
white club was open to people of all races.
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So the girl wanted to start a club that was basically a white version of the NAACP, but the NAACP shut her down. I don't know if she had ulterior motives when forming the club, but it is hypocritcal for the NAACP to shut her down.
NAACP = National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
Her group would not have been for the advancment of Cacasions.
Personaly, I think that there is ALOT missing from that story, seeing how as caucasian is purly based on skin tone/hair, it has nothing to do with ethnicity.
I find it kinda wierd that some one would want to create an organisation for abunch of people who have absoloutly NOTHING in comon...
weee, google is fun:
The NAACP infact DID NOT suported the statments against the club. The statments came from the then president, who later was forced to resign.
And all in all... caucasian club?
Its silly.
Caucasians include all of Europe, Parts of Africa, India, South America, and ofcourse the majority of people in North America. Heck, Caucasians are found in almost every part of the world (be they indigenous or not).
And just remember, I am still rather sure that the main reason why I got into my college is b/c when I put down caucasian as my race, they probably missread and didn't see the cauc part <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
oh well <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Maybe the words in the world that refer to race of any kind should be turned into swere words. but that wouldn't work anyways.....
basicly what we need is a entire revamp of the human scicology of the world, before we blow up everyone out of racism, etc. In all honesty I think I see more rasism today pressant than in any other time.
Ugh, no. I meant things that are "acceptable", not gutter-level stuff that you'd never admit to laughing at. -_-
For instance, not that I'm saying I'd do something like this... If I were to start a business and decide that I don't want any Asians working for me, I should be allowed to decline any application from an Asian. It's MY business, I created it and therefore I should be allowed to decide who works for me.
Don't believe me? A study was performed in which subjects were shown a video of a man coming around a corner. The man could have any one of six objects in his hand: three dangerous (knife, gun, etc), and three harmless (e.g. cellphone). The man could either be black or white. The task was simple: the subject was to determine as quickly as possible if the man was a threat or not.
The study found three things:
1) A black man was more likely to be mistakenly identified as "dangerous."
2) Subjects were quicker to correctly identify a "dangerous" black man than a "dangerous" white man.
3) The above two facts <i>were true regardless of the race of the subject!</i>
Another study had subjects watch a videotape of an encounter between two people in the hallway. The encounter was staged and included a short back-and-forth conversation followed by one of the participants pushing the other.
If the pusher was black, the subject was more likely to describe the push as "hostile" than if the pusher was white.
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This is just an example: even those who claim not to be racist usually are, at least subconsciously (I'm not saying *everyone* is racist, but I'd bet most people are). The decision to treat all races fairly is a conscious effort to overcome innate racist tendencies.
Someone who believes all races should be treated equally probably has a lot of guilt to deal with - again, not always conscious. They feel guilty because inside, they are likely still battling with their own ingrained biases. As a result, a pro-white opinion may get shouted down - all in an attempt to over-compensate, really. Another element is that any kind of pride touches to the competitive nature of man - pride in one's own country/race/belief is an unspoken statement that "I like my race because it's better than any other." So even if it's pro-self and not anti-other, there is always an unspoken element of anti-other.
Perhaps pro-minority movements are more acceptable because they are not perceived as this kind of one-upmanship. As an interesting tangent, perhaps those in the majority take subconscious comfort in the fact that as long as there are minority groups pushing for *equality*, their group (the majority) must still therefore be the superior group.
Keep in mind, though, that even minorities create extremist groups, and generally society has been no more accepting of them than it is of the extremist majority groups (e.g. the KKK).
Perhaps one of you well-read people out there can remind me which book this came from, but here it goes:
"9 white applicants and 1 black applicant apply for a job. One of the white applicants and the black applicant are selected as the top two candidates - both equally matched. However, the black candidate is selected for the job, due to affirmative action. The problem with this however, is that all *nine* of the applicants go away feeling victims of affirmative action, not only the sole candidate who truly was."
That was a paper from an economics prof at some university I can't remember. Honestly? I think affirmative action is hurting more than helping. Personally, I'd like to know I got a job based on my *skills* not on what I look like ( unless it's modelling or pornstar or something similar). Just my 2 cents.
-calldown
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I hate my sub-consious. That includes your sub-consious, too. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Here, i'll give you one way better. I'll list instances and you can do the research
yourself and find out why that is so.
Affirmative action. <-- #1 on my list.
The 15 year old girl in Ohio for wanting to start the white club in her middle school.
The NAACP called her a racist yet the club was open to everyone- blacks, Mexicans
everyone.
www.fbi.gov Check reports on Black on White crime vs White on Black crime.
Why is it that there are no marches for any of the white people slain or murdered?
If you line up a white male and a mexican male one from america and one from
mexico i'm pretty sure you'll be able to tell the difference. But on reports Mexicans
are labled as white. I think thats a little rushed to catagorize people dont you?
Example: A black kid is killed by a white man- Its spotlight on Tv, Everyone hears
about it. But when the situation is reversed why is it that noone notices? Because
the Tv doesnt play it.
Take a black male- put him in a stright white Neighiborhood. No doubt the cops
would be called on him in less then 3 seconds. Cops can only ask what are you
doing- and check for warrents nothing els.
Take a white man put him in an all black community what would happen?
I'd provide you with an answer but i'd be banned for it. Or even worse, Labled a
racist. Or i'll prolly be labled a racist just for writting this post. All races are not
the same. Whats so wrong with saying it>? WE ARENT ALL THE SAME
To go further not all people are the same. When your forced into a
melting pot things happen. As the melting grows and certian races deminish in
size what do you think happens to the under dog>? In 2050, 46 years from now
White people will be a minority in the USA, By the massive increases of people
Illeagles comming through mexico the date goes down as it becomes sooner.
You might say i could be dead in 46 years from now- But what about your children?
what about the world there going to grow up in? Try and make it better. Thats not
geared twards just white people. Thats for everybody.
I'm not telling you to go get a gun and prepair for the enivitable "Race war" thats
gonna whipe us out, thats just stupid. Thats what the KKK and nazi groups alike
all prey on. And there recruits are people who are often looking for a strong sence
of family because they are lacking in that area. I've been targeted by blacks, i've
been targeted by skinheads. What my goal is- is Wnisim. You dont have to live in
fear and constantly being targeted just because of your skin color. I watched the
movie Malcom X with Denzel washington- His speach just before it skips to his
house were' he's seen loading a carbine mag standing by a window. It was a very
powerfull speach- directed at black people to shapen up. If a white person said that
How quick do you think he'd get shot down? Good movie, if you care about politics
rent it, see how it can be transfered to Wnisim.
The 15 year old girl in Ohio for wanting to start the white club in her middle school.
The NAACP called her a racist yet the club was open to everyone- blacks, Mexicans
everyone.
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If you look a few posts above you will notice:
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The NAACP infact DID NOT suported the statments against the club. The statments came from the then president, who later was forced to resign.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Be careful, the mods are really fond of Rule #6 nowadays.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Example: A black kid is killed by a white man- Its spotlight on Tv, Everyone hears
about it. But when the situation is reversed why is it that noone notices? Because
the Tv doesnt play it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The media likes to report things that surprise people. Due to unconsious racism one is likely to be more shocked that a white guy killed a kid than that a black guy did. Similarly, you rarely hear about it when poor black children are abducted, but when richer white children are, its spotlight news.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Take a white man put him in an all black community what would happen?
I'd provide you with an answer but i'd be banned for it. Or even worse, Labled a
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Unlikely, so long as you supported your claim with some kind of evidence. Most of us are fairly open minded around here.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->All races are not
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Well actually, aside from some minor genetic differences, they pretty much are. Personally I think those differences are minor enough to ignored.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In 2050, 46 years from now
White people will be a minority in the USA<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is about the third time I've heard you say this, and you've never bothered to back it up with any kind of evidence. You may well be right, but I'd like to see some proof since this is a discussion forum.
Anyways, I'm pretty much of the same opinion as Commie on this one.
I'll repeate it as often as i get the chance, Some people need the wakeup call if
they care about the future. You Obvously dont so i dont know why you feel the
constant need to take stabs at it.
www.cnn.com The search is under the banner at the top.
<a href='http://websearch.cnn.com/search/search?source=cnn&invocationType=search%2Ftop&sites=google&query=2050+whites+minority' target='_blank'>http://websearch.cnn.com/search/search?sou...whites+minority</a>
^^ If your feeling lazy, its not to hard for you to CNN.COM Search it yourself.
Its a pretty point blank topic and its been on the news multipal times.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Personally I think those differences are minor enough to ignored<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Again, your personal opinion- and to me thats not really relivant.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well actually, aside from some minor genetic differences, they pretty much are. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
PROOF?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> Its a no-brainer. Most people prefer to be around there own kind. For
many obvous reasons. Anyway Some minor differences can be a very exploitable.
Random example?> Blacks in boxing. Blacks sometimes grow longer arms witch
is why they excel in it that longer swing reach, yet there's a debate going
on about how there chest bones arent as thick as whites. Asians being smaller-
<a href='http://www.newnation.com/Millard/Put-up-your-genes.html' target='_blank'>http://www.newnation.com/Millard/Put-up-your-genes.html</a> < the boxing one.
from that article you'll know enough to conduct your own search. What to look for.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->so long as you supported your claim with some kind of evidence<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.libreopinion.com/members/standarteslc/race05.html' target='_blank'>http://www.libreopinion.com/members/standarteslc/race05.html</a>
<a href='http://www.amren.com/color.pdf' target='_blank'>http://www.amren.com/color.pdf</a>
<a href='http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/racewar.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/racewar.htm</a>
<a href='http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-' target='_blank'>http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-</a>
<a href='http://www.naawp.com/fbi_statistics.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.naawp.com/fbi_statistics.htm</a>
<a href='http://www.aryan-nations.org/headlinenews/the_color_of_crime.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.aryan-nations.org/headlinenews/...or_of_crime.htm</a>
About my sources- 1 or 2 tend to link to/or come from a "WHITE POWER" website.
I apologize in advance for this and i'm aware it doesnt make me look good. Thing
is- all information is backed up and can be accounted for on www.fbi.gov
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Due to unconsious racism one is likely to be more shocked that a white guy killed a kid than that a black guy did.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In my eyes that doesnt make it unconsious at all. You yourself admit it that its
more of a shock when a white commits that kind of act then a black. but your still
moving away from the issue- WHY isnt it reported. Why dont you see the daily
headline "Another white was attacked by a black" I wont go any further for respect
to the orig poster. He said keep off the race issue- i'm already doing enough dmg.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->you rarely hear about it when poor black children are abducted, but when richer white children are, its spotlight news. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Your right, the white rich familys tend to seek national media and actually get there
child killed- then calling the cops and dealing with it out of the headlines. I think
they get there children killed to save themselves money- in there eyes they can
always have more.....its really sick. And its sad when it happens to any race.
Are we all the same? Should we accept our differences, or ignore them?
Most importantly, if whites do become the minority someday, and the same "positive" rasicm we carry towards ourselves continue, what will happen to us?
Will whites become the next oppressed race, in an almost cruel twist of fate?
Most importantly, what can we do about it?
White nationalism, while interesting, just says "Unite!" but really, will this solve anything, or just make problems worse...?
rac·ism P Pronunciation Key (rszm)
n.
The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
As far as this definition goes, favoring one race over another is just as racist as disliking one race over another.
The ultimate goal is to either not care or simply disregard races, not putting anyone ahead of anyone else because of it.
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Yes its obvious I don't care about the future because I asked for some proof of your claim. I thought I told you to stop accusing me of such things without backing it up?
Fact is, I don't really care if whites become the minority in the US, I really don't feel it would make any significant difference, there are bigger problems to worry about. That doesn't mean I don't care about the future, just that I don't really care about the future ratio of racial populations.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->PROOF? Its a no-brainer. Most people prefer to be around there own kind. For
many obvous reasons. Anyway Some minor differences can be a very exploitable.
Random example?> Blacks in boxing. Blacks sometimes grow longer arms witch
is why they excel in it that longer swing reach, yet there's a debate going
on about how there chest bones arent as thick as whites. Asians being smaller-
<a href='http://www.newnation.com/Millard/Put-up-your-genes.html' target='_blank'>http://www.newnation.com/Millard/Put-up-your-genes.html</a> < the boxing one.
from that article you'll know enough to conduct your own search. What to look for.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, like I said, minor genetic differences. Men on my mother's side of the family tend to have well developed calf muscels, makes them great for lifting stuff, kicking stuff, running, bike riding, ect. Generally their careers and hobbies reflect this. I don't consider the difference large enough not to be ignored.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In my eyes that doesnt make it unconsious at all. You yourself admit it that its
more of a shock when a white commits that kind of act then a black. but your still
moving away from the issue- WHY isnt it reported. Why dont you see the daily
headline "Another white was attacked by a black" I wont go any further for respect
to the orig poster.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually, my post was an aswer to the "why" question. Its not being reported on because it won't bring in ratings, and it won't bring in ratings because people won't be surprised, and people won't be surprised because subconsiously they expect black people to be more violent. And yes, it is subconsious, these people aren't sitting there drawing logical conclusions about it, its just a gut feeling they have, they learned it over the course of thier growing up in a world filled with racial stereotypes.
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I think its interesting to note that in the studies posted earlier, the stereotypes persisted accrossed racial boundries. It may well be that whites will still recieve preferential treatment, even after they become the minority.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Will whites become the next oppressed race, in an almost cruel twist of fate?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Possible, but doubtfull. Even if it did its extreemly doubtfull that it would be on the same scale that people were oppressed in the past.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Most importantly, what can we do about it?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Personally I think there are more important things to worry about, like if our (as in american citizen, not white) rights will continue to erode in the name of safty. But if your going to worry about it, then WN is pretty much the way to go. Don't spread hate messages because people will ignore you, and it'd probably be best to compare your situation with similar situations for opressed races in the past and offer similar solutions.
I'm against affirmative action but I'm for helping those in bad neighborhoods. I've seen some of them first hand in Brooklyn (I was practically living in one), but it wasn't all black. The main ethnic groups in the area were Dominican, Puerto Rican, Haitian, African-American, Italian, Irish, Russian and Jewish (you can't go outside without seeing a Hassidic (sp?) Jew down Ocean Pkwy.). That's a lot of races in a small area (Kensington, to be exact), but there was no racism there. So mixing races is not bad. The problem is when an area is predominantly controlled by one race and suddenly members of another race start moving in. If you're white and going down, say, Fulton St. Mall on a weekday, you can't get into some of the stores unless you can name the rap they're playing. I guessed right and got in for 5 minutes. This is kind of a generalization, but one of the main reasons I like black people (at least the ones I knew, you can't call me a racist for writing about the blacks I actually knew/know) is because they tend to be more direct, unlike whites with all their niceties and extraneous conversational garbage (it gets old, I think you know what I mean) they'll just come out and say what they're thinking. It's quite refreshing not to have to listen to someone prattle on for 10 minutes before they get to their point.
By the way I'm a WISA (White-Irish-Slavic-Atheist).
So?
1) You should look at a distribution of wealth or income as compared to race. In 1960, blacks possessed 1% of the nation's wealth. In 2003, blacks now possess... 1% of the nation's wealth (<a href='http://www.bridgew.edu/BridToday/2003/Nov/ogletree.cfm' target='_blank'>source</a>). The average American CEO makes 400 times what the lowest-paid worker in his company makes (source: textbook for a class I took called "Elites, Leadership, & Society"). CEOs, by the way, are nearly all white men. Whites control the vast majority of the money - both wealth and income - in this country, and studies show that the rich are only getting richer. So even if whites become a numerical minority, they will still control the vast majority of the nation's resources.
2) What does it matter? In the end, we're all human... and quite frankly, we all ought to be able to get along together.
many obvous reasons. Anyway Some minor differences can be a very exploitable.
Random example?> Blacks in boxing. Blacks sometimes grow longer arms witch
is why they excel in it that longer swing reach, yet there's a debate going
on about how there chest bones arent as thick as whites. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What obvious reasons? I won't deny there are probably differences between races, but that doesn't mean they're any less better company. As many of my friends have been white as not.
Why do you care if whites become a minority in the future? How would that make it a worse place for your children?
2 things to note about that:
1) 49.9% is not a majority
2) Whites would still be the majority, they would just be very close to losing be "outnumbered" if you combine ALL minorities, but that does not mean Whites would lose their "majority" status.
What's funny is that Fox News has a headline that is quite a bit more accurate: "U.S. to Be Half Minority by 2050".
There will always be a majority, but that majority does not lose its status until another group ( singular ) surpasses it. So once again... Those statistics do not say Whites will be a minority.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->For one thing, I have never heard of White Nationalism before, and my instinctive reaction was "oh jeez, not some racist Klan crap", but you surprised me, Afterglow. Well done. But on to the topic at hand....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There's nothing against the poster of this statement here, (very much to his credit he made an intelligent assessment of the statements) but as an example, his instinct was to assume that it was something highly racist. This is a growing trend in the U.S. (and I would assume in other countries as well) where having racial pride if you're of one race is lauded, but degraded if you're of another. It's ok to have groups, clubs, or organizations for members of a certain race only, but if you're of a different race and try to make a race only club, you're immediately attacked, and your group shut down. In some cases, in the U.S., universities give more weight to applicants of one race over another, (a less qualified applicant of one race would make it in over a more qualified applicant of a different race) and the same can be true when applying for a job.
My question is why is this the case? Why is this not only tolerated, but applauded and accepted by society? Post your thoughts.
Please, to anyone who is just going to call others racists, you aren't welcome in this thread. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Coming from South Africa I can maybe offer some additional input to this discussion.
Basically, you have a situation both here in the US and South Africa, where one race has suppressed/dominated/enslaved (use whatever term you will) another race for a length of time.
So as a consequence, even though we're living in more "enlightened" times where the governments at least, are not actively supporting this sort of behaviour the _legacy_ of it all remains.
So unfortunately things like white on black violence will almost invariably draw more attention than the reverse because people instinctively have a knee-jerk response that says something like "its happening all over again..." or "the oppression isn't over...". Regardless of whether or not the violence was racially motivated in the first place.
Also, certain members of the minorities that were suppressed, have learnt that playing the "race card" can be a powerful means of control. So you will have those individuals that claim racism/discrimination where there was none to be found before. This of course turns what wasn't a racial incident into one. And people on both sides of the argument tend to get defensive and generally things go downhill with increased racial tension.
My view on things like Affirmative action is basically this. I think they were necessary to correct an unfair situation _initially_. However, they must have a time-limit whereby they are phased out, because they are a source of racial tension and really have no place in a society that claims to be "color-blind".
Not exactly correct, but the issue is mostly one of semantics.
1) A majority (for instance, when speaking of percentages in an election) is defined as greater than 50% of the total.
2) A <i>plurality</i> is defined as the largest fraction of a group, which is less than 50%.
If 3 people run for president and A gets 40%, B gets 35%, and C gets 25%, A wins because he received a plurality of the votes.
So if whites become less than 50% of the population, they will in fact no longer be the majority. They will, however, still be a plurality.
At least you knew what I meant and corrected me. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Either way... Whites still won't be a minority.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Factors such as how multiracial Americans identify themselves could drastically alter these predictions, Riche said.
There is also the issue of how Hispanics identify themselves. Prior census data show that most Hispanics choose white as their race. Riche said that could be a sign that future generations of U.S.-born Latinos would select white and "non-Hispanic" as their background as they move further from the generation that first immigrated to the United States.
"When you look at 2050 and possibly see a large Hispanic population that doesn't speak Spanish anymore, being Hispanic might be something very different from today," said Roderick Harrison, a demographer with the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies (search), a research group that specializes in studying minority issues. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If latino's classify themselves as white (technically they are, most latino's are decendants of Spainards) then white will be the overwhelming majority.
Pretty interesting, eh?
No, we're not all the same. Accept our differences. Take pride in what makes each
race unique. take pride and joy in customs and traditions of your family and from
your past, for if your history dies so do you. Move foward- have children in
communitys were your people make up a majority. Keep the area you have kind
of exclusive- Do not move in on other peoples areas. Have fun, teach and
protect your children- Rince and repeate.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Most importantly, if whites do become the minority someday, and the same "positive" rasicm we carry towards ourselves continue, what will happen to us?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Obvous answer. Self distruction. WN is for you.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Will whites become the next oppressed race, in an almost cruel twist of fate?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
could happen. WN could be a deturent.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->White nationalism, while interesting, just says "Unite!" but really, will this solve anything, or just make problems worse...? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Obvously you havent read the faq or you'd have Much more to say about it lol.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yes its obvious I don't care about the future because I asked for some proof of your claim. I thought I told you to stop accusing me of such things without backing it up? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
See its really simple slick. I care about the future. If i bring children into this world
i'm going to do the best to make my community safe. Weather it be with whites,
or with blacks, or with forest gnomes lol. Its called compashion, and faith topped
off with a little bit of hope. Wanting your kids to go out there....live good lives,
knowing you helped make it possible for them by providing for them.
YOU wont be able to understand this. You think we're (the human race) doomed to
self distruction. You probally wollow in depression keeping your life very open
because as you say- nothing good will ever happen. You want proof? read your
posts. Me trying to be positive is like a big magnet to you. Serously i hope you fall
in love, or see something that will change your point of view. You need it. I pity
you and yea, i hope it gets better for you.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Fact is, I don't really care if whites become the minority in the US, I really don't feel it would make any significant difference, there are bigger problems to worry about. That doesn't mean I don't care about the future, just that I don't really care about the future ratio of racial populations.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I dont think you do care about the future. Race wise? it would be unfortunate for
any race to die out. And some races would accept you better then others. Proof for
that? Lets apply the good ol' common sence factor. I'll buy you a 1 way ticket to...
Hatia(sp) or Jamaica- with the random "White people Maceddie(sp) slayings and
decapitations" Some people wont even allow you to enter there country unless you
were born there. (Japan or China forgot) due to mass over-population. and lastly
Any person outside the white race who has intercourse with a white women- That
child- will carry on the traits of the person who mated with her. I.e. Always a black
child in a black/white couple. Asian eyes, the whole thing. but what? just lighter
skin? Then the child isnt accepted by anyone because the child looks so different
from anyone.
To prove that point on the job applications they've had to put "Other" in the race
catagory because so many children of mixed decent are being born.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yes, like I said, minor genetic differences. Men on my mother's side of the family tend to have well developed calf muscels, makes them great for lifting stuff, kicking stuff, running, bike riding, ect. Generally their careers and hobbies reflect this. I don't consider the difference large enough not to be ignored.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I gave you a perfect example that certian races excel in certian things over other
races. Yet you say thats minor, i consider that pretty effin big. Your going under
the assumption That you wont be treated differently because of your skin.
That tells me you've eather had it very good in white communitys and you've
never went out into the real world- or you live in a place were race isnt an issue
(witch those places dont exist anymore lol) I tell you WN, you say theres really no
need for it- we're all the same. I say take a trip to a ghetto or an all black hood at
night and you ask for stastics. Serously some people need to have the crap kicked
out of them for that wake up call. And nothing i say will change your mind until it
happens to you- thats the sad part. Bringing up a similar topic- All those peace
protestors that were opposed to the war on iraq? Remember those? Just when we
started bombing and sending in troops why did they all come running back as
quickly as they could? GEE lets think about this.
Or Racial equality. Why dont a group of 12-30 protestors that say "we're all the
same" go down to Hatia. were voodoo is still an active pass time and some
believe "White people were created by a black wizzard back in the day to hamper
the black man" Or my personal fav Khallid Muhammed & Al Sharpton's "Kill
Whitey" Fest." To those who dont know who "Khallid" is, he's a stright laced racist.
who 110% advocates the salying of the white women and of the blue eye'd
children *raises hand* One MILLION people- mostly mothers and there children
attented this ralley that was a walk to the capatial. It wasnt put on the Tv. YOU
didnt hear about it. and 400 pathetic skins and klansmen protested it. AL
sharpton.....The guy thats running for PREZ here people! But of course, its taboo
to mention any of this and you'll just call me a racist......I wonder if 1million white
people did an event like this that had the nickname "The Kill darky fest"...would
people think its just scottish? or would we have race riots in the street?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually, my post was an aswer to the "why" question. Its not being reported on because it won't bring in ratings, and it won't bring in ratings because people won't be surprised, and people won't be surprised because subconsiously they expect black people to be more violent. And yes, it is subconsious, these people aren't sitting there drawing logical conclusions about it, its just a gut feeling they have, they learned it over the course of thier growing up in a world filled with racial stereotypes.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good answer, but its still not being put on the tube. What would happen in america
if there was a report every day about how many black men/white men were
assulted? Would we burst out of control? or actually try and fix the problem?
talk about putting your money were your mouth is.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But if your going to worry about it, then WN is pretty much the way to go.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
AWWWWWW Much <3
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What obvious reasons? I won't deny there are probably differences between races, but that doesn't mean they're any less better company. As many of my friends have been white as not.
Why do you care if whites become a minority in the future? How would that make it a worse place for your children? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I am not telling you to distance yourself from all your friends. I'm not telling you
to hate, to slay, or anything els. Just be aware of the changing times. You (and
most other people- Vast majority of the population) are taught self hate. If you
stand up for yourself YOUR a RACIST. No. You can have pride in being white.
You can have an All white community and not allow others in. Blacks do it. so do
mexicans. Whitey does it we're racist. And if your not white and you begin speaking
about the "gated communities" with the gold bars and the dimonds everywere your
obvously not informed. All white people dont have millions. Check around for
"White flight" in a yahoo search. You will *LOVE* the results. I promise you.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->but at the same time it says Whites will lose the majority when minorities make up 49.9% of the population.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What was not mentioned in this was the estimated 20-25 MILLION mexican illeagles
now the media has been known to downtalk figures......so put it much higher and
we're in the minority.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So unfortunately things like white on black violence will almost invariably draw more attention than the reverse because people instinctively have a knee-jerk response that says something like "its happening all over again..." or "the oppression isn't over...". Regardless of whether or not the violence was racially motivated in the first place.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was not for the Racisim when it happened the first time, nor will i be for it when/if
it happens again. Whoever makes it out on top should do there best to keep order
and to make sure that things dont get out of hand. I dont think white people are
good at this.
i'm going to do the best to make my community safe. Weather it be with whites,
or with blacks, or with forest gnomes lol. Its called compashion, and faith topped
off with a little bit of hope. Wanting your kids to go out there....live good lives,
knowing you helped make it possible for them by providing for them.
YOU wont be able to understand this. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Of course not, because I'm not the all-wise afterglow.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You think we're (the human race) doomed to
self distruction.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, I do. Assuming we continue on our current path.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You probally wollow in depression keeping your life very open
because as you say- nothing good will ever happen.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What is that, ad hominem attack #3? You do have real arguments don't you?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You want proof? read your
posts. Me trying to be positive is like a big magnet to you.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ha!, its not your positive-ness that gets me, its your arrogance, but this is all beside the point. Care to argue against my argument for a change?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Serously i hope you fall
in love, or see something that will change your point of view. You need it. I pity
you and yea, i hope it gets better for you. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nice of you to say, you know, as far as insults go.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I dont think you do care about the future. Race wise? it would be unfortunate for
any race to die out.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Who said anything about dying out? We're talking about a relatively minor change in the ratio of whites/other in the US.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And some races would accept you better then others.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
On the whole I find this to be untrue. Most of the people of other races that I meet accept me just as readily as white people. This may not be true everywhere however.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Proof for
that? Lets apply the good ol' common sence factor. I'll buy you a 1 way ticket to...
Hatia(sp) or Jamaica- with the random "White people Maceddie(sp) slayings and
decapitations" Some people wont even allow you to enter there country unless you
were born there. (Japan or China forgot) due to mass over-population. and lastly
Any person outside the white race who has intercourse with a white women- That
child- will carry on the traits of the person who mated with her. I.e. Always a black
child in a black/white couple. Asian eyes, the whole thing. but what? just lighter
skin? Then the child isnt accepted by anyone because the child looks so different
from anyone. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can't really follw this one, it seems like several half-ideas forcefully jumbled into one paragraph, so I'll just skip it.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->To prove that point on the job applications they've had to put "Other" in the race
catagory because so many children of mixed decent are being born. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Whats wrong with people of "mixed descent"? Really man, what are you trying to say? All I've been able to get out of the last two paragraphs is "Some countries won't let you in, or will rip you off first chance they get" and "Children of mixed descent aren't accepted by anyone, as proof, there is an 'Other' checkbox on job applications".
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I gave you a perfect example that certian races excel in certian things over other
races. Yet you say thats minor, i consider that pretty effin big. Your going under
the assumption That you wont be treated differently because of your skin.
That tells me you've eather had it very good in white communitys and you've
never went out into the real world- or you live in a place were race isnt an issue
(witch those places dont exist anymore lol) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know if any of those is particularly correct, but generally race hasn't been much of an issue my entire life. I generally consider that a good thing, the way things should be.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I tell you WN, you say theres really no
need for it- we're all the same. I say take a trip to a ghetto or an all black hood at
night and you ask for stastics.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You haven't said such a thing, and I believe the statistics would make doing such a thing seem fairly dangerous. Though I doubt it would be much better if I were to wander into an all-white ghetto.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->erously some people need to have the crap kicked
out of them for that wake up call. And nothing i say will change your mind until it
happens to you- thats the sad part. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have had the crap kicked out of me. I have had the crap kiced out of me in a mostly black gheto. I've had a brick thrown at my head, luckily it only hit me in the ankle. Rather than teach me that blacks are different, it taught me that I shouldn't hang around ghetos with money.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Bringing up a similar topic- All those peace
protestors that were opposed to the war on iraq? Remember those? Just when we
started bombing and sending in troops why did they all come running back as
quickly as they could? GEE lets think about this. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why did all who come running back? I know alot of people who still protested against the war after it started, just what are you trying to imply? Wait, don't answer that, the last thing we need is annother Iraq thread.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Or Racial equality. Why dont a group of 12-30 protestors that say "we're all the
same" go down to Hatia. were voodoo is still an active pass time and some
believe "White people were created by a black wizzard back in the day to hamper
the black man" Or my personal fav Khallid Muhammed & Al Sharpton's "Kill
Whitey" Fest." To those who dont know who "Khallid" is, he's a stright laced racist.
who 110% advocates the salying of the white women and of the blue eye'd
children *raises hand* One MILLION people- mostly mothers and there children
attented this ralley that was a walk to the capatial.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Maybe thats why they don't go there? Seriously, theres not much they can do against such overwhelming and unjustified hatred.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But of course, its taboo
to mention any of this and you'll just call me a racist......<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why would I do that? I don't fell like googling for it, but what you say could very well be true and doesn't really reflect on you as a person. Now if you had said something like "I proudly marched with my klan brethren in protest" then I might brand you a racist.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I wonder if 1million white
people did an event like this that had the nickname "The Kill darky fest".<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What do you mean? The klan and nazis and all maner of crazies march in support of the killing of other races all the time. Granted, they usually don't march in such high numbers.
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people think its just scottish? or would we have race riots in the street? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
generally people just ignore it.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What would happen in america
if there was a report every day about how many black men/white men were
assulted? Would we burst out of control? or actually try and fix the problem?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Let me ask you something, by "fix" what do you mean?
Let me ask you annother questiopn, totally irrelevent to the discussion, but why doesn't your being christian get in the way of your "white pride"? I may be wrong but I could have sworn pride was a sin.
Oh, and you still haven't aswered this one: What would be so bad about whites nolonger being a majority in the US?