Adding A New Entity To The Fgd (env_model)

Mendasp · April 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">link to thread in Ideas and Suggestions</div> Other people made already threads like mine, but since they got something close to 0 replies... well, I don't think they were even considered, so please, show your support so we can get a REAL entity for that purpose <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=67730' target='_blank'>Link to the thread</a>

Tequila · April 2004

My life is yours.

Er, I mean support. My support is yours.

BobTheJanitor · April 2004

Of course the last time something from I&S was implemented was sometime around the release of 2.0... but still, it's always worth a try.

Mendasp · April 2004

Maybe Cagey will read it? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /> well, I think it's the only good suggestion on the <b>whole</b> forum! heh

tomteverkstan · April 2004

@PointClass studio() = env_model
[
rendermode(choices) : "Render Mode" : 0 =
[
0: "Normal"
1: "Color"
2: "Texture"
3: "Glow"
4: "Solid"
5: "Additive"
]

renderamt(integer) : "FX Amount (1 - 255)"

model(studio) : "Model"
]

i added this to the fgd and it worked

Mendasp · April 2004

I'm going to try it :O

Edit: As I thought, it doesn't work in-game.

Zyndrome · April 2004

By changing the "sprite()" to "studio()" in ns.fgd for the env_sprite, models show up without any problem, but sprites are not showing up, only a small purple cube.
Using both sprite() and studio() for the env_sprite causes VHE (3.5) to crash.
Not familiar with FGD-editing? Just open ns.fgd with Notepad and search for "env_sprite" <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> , if you want to try it out. The line should look like this after edited:

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>@PointClass <b>studio()</b> base(Targetname, RenderFields) size(-4 -4 -4, 4 4 4)= env_sprite : "Sprite Effect"</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Mendasp · April 2004

I use this, so it doesn't crash hammer, but, it obviously, shows an ugly pink cube.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>@PointClass base(Targetname, RenderFields) size(-4 -4 -4, 4 4 4) = env_sprite : "Sprite Effect" </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Tribal-Bob · April 2004

That would be awesome for adding ambient models... like if you wanted a res node that had a collapsed beam on it or something so you couldn't use it... but it was just there to taunt everyone.

Caboose · April 2004

or you could just use cycler...

Tequila · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Apr 8 2004, 07:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> or you could just use cycler...  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
We could, but horrible hull files that can't be eliminated just really aren't fun. I don't want a pair of boots to take up the space of a human.

KungFuSquirrel · April 2004

It's more the matter that regular cyclers also bleed. Oops.

cycler_weapon works well, but just be sure you clip the thing off... running around with chairs hanging over my head is a fond memory from early versions of Veil... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

BobTheJanitor · April 2004

Actually, onos and fades can STILL pick up cycler_weapons in the latest version of 3.0... I've had it happen to me a couple times assaulting MS on Veil. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />

Beware marines, lest I blink into your face and fiercely hold this CHAIR up at you!!!

Cagey · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mendasp @ Apr 8 2004, 11:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Maybe Cagey will read it? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
It took me a while to get there, but I've read it now...

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>well, I think it's the only good suggestion on the <b>whole</b> forum! heh</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

You didn't like my S&I posts? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

I seriously doubt this is going to make it into 3.0 since we're supposed to be in a feature freeze, but I really want to see this in the game at the earliest possible time, preferably as a client-side entity that doesn't count against the cap.

I've even asked for it a few times before I was a dev--including a nodrop flag for floating / attached to wall/ceiling models and the ability to set a custom light amount for the model rather than using the floor light.

I briefly talked with Flayra about moving more static entities to the client side on Tuesday, and he said that if I wanted to investigate that possibility in the future he'd be open to it--I can't work on that sort of thing at the moment because we don't want to destabalize the build; we're fixing bugs now, not creating them <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Actually, onos and fades can STILL pick up cycler_weapons in the latest version of 3.0... I've had it happen to me a couple times assaulting MS on Veil. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Has this been listed in the bugs forum? I don't see it in Mantis (the NS bug tracker) yet.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>i added this to the fgd and it worked </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

There isn't any mention of an env_model entity in the NS sourcecode... do you mean it worked in Hammer?

Mendasp · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XP-Cagey @ Apr 9 2004, 03:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Actually, onos and fades can STILL pick up cycler_weapons in the latest version of 3.0... I've had it happen to me a couple times assaulting MS on Veil. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Has this been listed in the bugs forum? I don't see it in Mantis (the NS bug tracker) yet. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Yes, it is, but with a different description, the player that reported it didn't know it's caused by the cycler_weapons.

The bug id on Mantis is 0000504 (I don't know if I can link to it here... so I'll give you the bug id and that's it, heh). We used cycler_weapons for the models on early builds on bast, and that's exactly what happened, also, the model dissapeared. We use env_sprites now, like the original map did.

Cagey · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mendasp @ Apr 9 2004, 05:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XP-Cagey @ Apr 9 2004, 03:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Actually, onos and fades can STILL pick up cycler_weapons in the latest version of 3.0... I've had it happen to me a couple times assaulting MS on Veil. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Has this been listed in the bugs forum? I don't see it in Mantis (the NS bug tracker) yet. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Yes, it is, but with a different description, the player that reported it didn't know it's caused by the cycler_weapons.

The bug id on Mantis is 0000504 (I don't know if I can link to it here... so I'll give you the bug id and that's it, heh). We used cycler_weapons for the models on early builds on bast, and that's exactly what happened, also, the model dissapeared. We use env_sprites now, like the original map did.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Ah, thanks <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

tomteverkstan · April 2004

hmmm...it only worked in hammer <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' />
i dont know where i got it from that it worked =S

Adding A New Entity To The Fgd (env_model)

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