Building A Computer

HybridclawHybridclaw Join Date: 2003-11-03 Member: 22271Members
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these are the parts i'm getting:
<a href='http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=25544&sku=MBM-8IPE10-3000' target='_blank'>Motherboard and Processor</a>
<a href='http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cooler-express/kopclicoca.html' target='_blank'>case</a>
<a href='http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=4505&sku=A177-3031' target='_blank'>Graphics card</a>
<a href='http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=448302&Sku=TC1-DDR-1024&CatId=147' target='_blank'>Ram</a>
<a href='http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=286988&Sku=C44-5020&CatId=107' target='_blank'>sound card</a>
<a href='http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=33761&Sku=I800-3004&CatId=89' target='_blank'>cd-drive</a>
<a href='http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=608420&Sku=U10-9300%20BL' target='_blank'>power supply</a>
I'm going to use the hard drive from this computer and put it in the new one.

i need to know what is not compatible with everthing else and if i'm missing anything.

I also have a question:
Is it ok if the operating system i use for the new computer is the same as the old one, <i>when</i> the new computer has hyper-threading and the old one doesn't?
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  • ZaphodZaphod Join Date: 2003-12-30 Member: 24882Members
    For the sake of cleanliness, I'd reformat the drive and re-install the OS for the new computer. The OS could get confused and might cause more trouble than it's worth.

    Any reason you're going for slow RAM??? You're getting a P4 w/ dual channel. So the best bet is to buy 2 sticks of DDR400 RAM, say 512MB each. If you get that one stick of DDR266, you're aren't going to be close to using the full potential of the processor and it would be a waste.
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  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    edited April 2004
    Edit: Zaphod beat me to my answer.
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  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    edited April 2004
    Yep, what they said. Try <a href='http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=235775&Sku=K24-4906&CatId=147' target='_blank'>two Kingston 512mb sticks</a> in dual channel slots. And, as an added bonus, it's cheaper <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    EDIT: P.S. Wow. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • JaspJasp Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13076Members
    How many many times have is said this, wait dont go spending you pennys on something that is gonna be out of date by the end of the year.

    PCI Express is due out my June/July making AGP worthless.

    The NV40 and the new radeons are due out very soon. The NV40 was/is meant to have a clock rating 10X that of the FX5900

    The AMD FX52 64bit is also out now yes its expensive but its awfully powerful.

    So id wait till the end of the year before upgrading to something new.
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    Why the cheap Mobo? I mean you are spending top dollar on some of those pieces, but then cheaping out on others (namely, mobo and ram). Get the Asus P4c800 deluxe as a mobo instead, it's better.
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  • HybridclawHybridclaw Join Date: 2003-11-03 Member: 22271Members
    i know i'm being cheap on some parts, but what i need to know is if any parts are not compatible and if i will need to change my operating system.
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  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    listen to jasp

    because although i dont know what he's talking about, it sounds scary <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    any sites you can link us to, mate?
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  • HybridclawHybridclaw Join Date: 2003-11-03 Member: 22271Members
    he's just saying i should waibefore i upgrade. I won't <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> . but can anyone answer my question? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    i don't want this to be an expensive mistake.
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  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    edited April 2004
    I recently built a computer myself (3 days ago) so maybe I can help you out here. I've spent countless hours researching this so I'm not pulling anything out of **** here.

    First you should order off www.newegg.com, excellent service, warrenties, reputation, sellection, price, undisputed best computer parts seller.

    Mobo/Proc: If I were you I'd go with an Athlon 64, 3000+ or 3200+ depending on how much you want to spend (IMO the 3200+ is a better deal). The Ahtlon will match up price wise pretty similar to the pentium but it is much better for gaming (plus you get the ability to run 64 bit applications in the future). If you must go with the P4 though, that's a decent choice.

    Case: That case is extremely expensive with the watercooling system. Unless your planning to overclock you won't see much benefit at all from that, and even then you would be better off buying seperate cooling and installing yourself. Antec and Chieftech both make fine cases (most also include 350W-420W power supplies).

    GFX Card: The 9800XT's aren't worth it right now. As you can see <a href='http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030930/radeon_9800-14.html' target='_blank'>here,</a> the XT's are around double the price with only maybe a 5-10% increase in performance. You are better off going for the 128 MB 9800 pro and upgrading again in a year or so, instead of buying a 9800XT.

    RAM: I'd go for 2 RAM modules of 512 rather than 1 gig. Name brands are more reliable as well, like Corsair and Crucial. PC2100 and PC3200 aren't that much different in price, so why get PC2100?

    Sound: Unless you're running a decent quality speaker system, onboard sound is fine IMO. You can always buy it planning to use onboard, and when you get it if you are really disappointed with it run to the store and pick up a mid level sound card.

    CD Drive: I'd go with a brand name if I were you, like Lite On, Pioneer, or Sony. Also, I'd recommend getting two drives. A Lite ON 16x DVD drive is about $30 for a high quality model and a mid level DVD writer is about $90.

    PSU: I recommend you don't skimp here, go with at least a 350W or you will have instability and other problems.

    <b>In responce to the comments above:</b> The Athlon FX Processors are in the same boat as the 9800XT, they are double the price (or higher) for a 5-10% performance increase. PCI-Express is not going to change a thing. It's going to increase the available memory for graphics cards, but the video cards now aren't even close to needing it. As you can see <a href='http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040310/pcie-02.html' target='_blank'>here,</a> the modern video cards aren't even taking advantage of the 8x AGP as they run almost identical in 4x. The jump from 8x to PCI-E is going to be even more unessesary, and it is just a marketing ploy to try to convince everyone their AGP cards are out of date and they need to update ASAP. Frankly, this is good for us because AGP cards will be essentially equal but will experience huge price drops.
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  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    edited April 2004
    Some Links:
    <a href='http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/digest3d/0304/itogi-video-am3-wxp-1024.html' target='_blank'>Vid Card Comparison</a>
    <a href='http://www.newegg.com' target='_blank'>Buy Products, Read Reviews</a>
    <a href='http://www.tomshardware.com' target='_blank'>Useful Articles</a>
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  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    edited April 2004
    From my experience, water cooling is completely unnecessary (My beast of a system runs just fine without the case fans), a terrible hassle (have the change the water all the time, there's other quirks with it too), and pretty much a complete ripoff price-wise. Plus, what's the point of it? Make your case quieter? How about those three honkin fans on top? Think those things run like a B2 bomber? Heh, hardly. Also, your case is also worthless for a place to set CDs, etc on. Hell, I usually have more crap on my case then on my desk itself. I'm changing CDs, pop one out and drop the CD on top of the case. *shrug*

    BTW I'm using a Chieftech case. Very roomy. Came with a stupid window on the side, I wasn't too happy with that <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> But it was cheap, came with a good power supply.


    EDIT: LOL I DIDNT EVEN LOOK AT THE PRICE

    $230? HAHHAHAHAHAHAH GG MAN My whole computer cost me just over $600... I wouldn't even think of spending more then $40 or 50 on a case, and power supplys are LITERALLY a dime a dozen, you're looking at about 50-60 bucks for a case and powerful powersupply... throw in two case fans at about $9 each...
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