What Is The Point Of Cd Req Servers?

ktimekillerktimekiller Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 13958Members
does it like make u lag less? what is the point of using cd? and what cd are they talking about? half-life? what is the fuxing point? i hope it laggs less because i lag a lot, and if isnt half-life cd, what is it? i dont think thre is such thing as natural selection cd........

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  • XenoXeno Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2343Members
    CD stands for cheating death. its just program to stop cheating. thats pretrty much it. it wont reduce lag btw.
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    <a href='http://www.unitedadmins.com/cdeath-dl.php' target='_blank'>http://www.unitedadmins.com/cdeath-dl.php</a>
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    DUHS IT KOM WIT A RYOT SHELD?
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    It has very low processor usage, and uses very little RAM, so it won't cause NS to play any worse.
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited April 2004
    hahah.

    The server I play on had CD required for a while. The simple reasoning was that it's a player filter. The cheating block was nice but ultimately just a fringe benefit; we use it to keep out the kind of players who aren't intelligent enough to find CD with the link it gives you when you're kicked. Just like it keeps out the cheaters not determined enough to work around it, it also keeps out the lamers not patient enough to download it.

    Unfortunately it seems that Steam users as a whole are much less capable of figuring out CD, so making it required can result in some population issues. Lately we've just set it to optional with a very annoying voice reminder plugin if you don't use it. Most people who seriously intend to play there download it after a couple times, and hopefully it will still annoy lamers into going somewhere else.
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    CD is nice to have as a extra-layer of defence... but i think it interferes with VAC (Valve Anti Cheat) so i stopped using after any HL mod randomly crashed out. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    GG, non third-party anti-cheat support, GG.
  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    False sense of security
  • GhostBomberGhostBomber Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6910Members
    I don't avoid CD because I'm to unintelligent to find it (I've had it in the past). I avoid CD because I'm to lazy to start it up every time I want to run a game, and it often caused problems for me while using it. Usually like Maveric, I'd crash every once in a while. All for what? To be able to play on a select few servers that require it? No thanks.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrPink+Apr 15 2004, 04:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrPink @ Apr 15 2004, 04:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> False sense of security <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually complete sense of security. The main plus of C-D is it keeps out those without the attention span or general knowhow to find & install it. Even if it prevented no cheats whatsoever (and to be fair, at least it does the common freely downloadable ones, which is what 90% of nubs use anyway) it still provides the benefit that I don't have to put up with so many peons on my servers.

    I have heard it causes crashes once in a while for some players, but they seem to be a very distinct minority, and I have to make the choice to lose those good potential people to get rid of 3.0 x 10 to the power of 2,000 nubs who will spam 'Oh noes where do I buy t3h gunz! M3h AWP!!1one'. So to them, apologies are owed, but it's for the good of the many.
  • TrevelyanTrevelyan Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14834Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Maveric+Apr 14 2004, 10:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Apr 14 2004, 10:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> CD is nice to have as a extra-layer of defence... but i think it interferes with VAC (Valve Anti Cheat) so i stopped using after any HL mod randomly crashed out. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    GG, non third-party anti-cheat support, GG. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yea when i have it on every once in a while if I join some other server it says my system has been modified and i have to kill HL and CD... dunno why.
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited April 2004
    Trevelyan, most likely a driver version not supported. If you are using some modified drivers or beta drivers(e.g. omega's version of catalyst or forceware/detonator or a non-whql release from NV or ATi) C-D might recognize it as non-standard driver and give you a "code ##: your system has been modified".

    Why would they do this? A fair bunch of wallhacks are implemented as patches to ATi or Nvidia driver sets.

    ps. When I look at cheat sites the only thing that is quite commonly listed as undetected for C-D is wall hacks and/or lambert shading cheats. I don't know if they work properly as C-D determines which enemy players who are not supposed to be visible to your client and then moves their position to behind you on the client, which means you won't see them through walls even if you aren't kicked from the server with an error message, allthough you will see your teammates through walls. Aimbots aren't allways easy to spot when you aren't in a position to spectate(e.g. on the opposing team) and some admins don't even let you spec for some inane reason. C-D is way better than nothing which is what you have on non-CD NS servers.

    VAC has recently gotten their stuff togheter and has allmost all public cheats banned which is very nice, lets hope ns3 b4 has VAC support finally.
  • CheeseCheese Lork on the Clorf Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24396Members, Constellation
    when I saw Cheating Death on a Server for the first time it said

    [NO-CD]Cheese

    and I was like "WTH? My Half Life Disk is in the CD-Drive!!!"
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    same here. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I hate CD servers. I am behind a router... fun starts here.
    Ever since UnitedAdmins took over CD its been downwards ever since.
    NO evrsion, not even the freaking betas, are hooking the game dll. it simply will not start HL with CD. It starts HL, it starts CD, but CD will not be used.. nice.

    Only way around this is somethign whihc has a near 40% of working. I direct connect to a server with CD. Then, when lucky, I might get CD to hook the dll. this is different for CD versions.

    so CD + old routers = crap.

    I tried anything. I now gave up, got CD of or clanserver.. (ok, it never even made the new server) and I now hardly go to any CD server. its not worth it if you got a system + network not swallowing it.
  • WirheWirhe Join Date: 2003-06-22 Member: 17610Members
    There has been several occasions when I have thought: "how the hell did he do THAT?" -like when one guy climbed to my vent, in a completely safe spot, using mines (which I got to see later on). Thanks to CD, I have a lot less servers banned in my list than otherwise -makes it easier to sleep, so to say <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • GunFodderGunFodder Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26572Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Maveric+Apr 14 2004, 10:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Apr 14 2004, 10:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> but i think it interferes with VAC (Valve Anti Cheat) so i stopped using after any HL mod randomly crashed out. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah I uninstalled CD because it kept crashing HL, though this was on WON.
  • Hang_LooseHang_Loose Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7775Members
    edited April 2004
    I haet cheating death I don't cheat so why should I have big brother installed watching me? no reason... so that is why I do not play on cheating death servers.
    <span style='color:white'>Extending a flame over multiple words doesn't make it less of a flame. Be nice.</span>
  • JavJav Join Date: 2004-04-14 Member: 27921Members
    edited April 2004
    It used to interfear with VAC, I asume it doesn't now as I see full CD servers around often enough. CD helps admins as it filters out most of the hackers. Only more experienced ones will get through, this makes an admins job much easier. If you only had to ban 1-2 guys a day at most as opposed to 10.
  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    The coolest thing about cheating death are the hacks that only work with it...
    They're the best!!!

    No really cd makes it so stupid when you can find douzens of hacks or open gl
    glitching.

    I'd say kill the hackers, the family and find all their reletive and gun'em down!!!!
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Well, the principle is : No anti-cheat program will be perfect. Only present admins can correctly look after a server. So anti-cheat just cuts down to a lesser or greater extent the number those admins have to deal with.
  • WirheWirhe Join Date: 2003-06-22 Member: 17610Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I haet cheating death I don't cheat so why should I have big brother installed watching me? no reason... so that is why I do not play on cheating death servers.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Have you ever taken a look at a forum dedicated to cheating (at MP-games)? You really should. If players in NS whine about "OMG, gimme shotgun, gl, jp and HA! Now!!!", after the game they whine in those forums "OMG, gimme hack, crack, god-mode and aimbot! Now!!!"

    And people just do that; give links to cheats that this little kid can spoil the game. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> If could filter out (in Steam) all non-CD servers, I would. Sadly, that isn't possible yet. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MopMop Join Date: 2003-06-26 Member: 17707Members
    CD is a pain, you install it and run it to join a CD server and find out the server is full and the other servers dont have CD. If you join a server which isnt CD and you have CD running you are classed as a cheat or cant play. So you have to go back to windows shut it down then rejoin. Its so much fussing around <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Soylent green+Apr 15 2004, 10:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soylent green @ Apr 15 2004, 10:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Trevelyan, most likely a driver version not supported. If you are using some modified drivers or beta drivers(e.g. omega's version of catalyst or forceware/detonator or a non-whql release from NV or ATi) C-D might recognize it as non-standard driver and give you a "code ##: your system has been modified". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Should it be doing this with the official set of Det. drivers? Those are always the ones I use, but C-D just locks me out nowadays. I don't have anything else running in the background.

    It's a bummer; I don't mind using C-D, but it won't let me. :/
  • PAcifistiPAcifisti Join Date: 2003-05-15 Member: 16344Members, Constellation
    currently C-D is the only reasonable Anticheat system... VAC really doesnt
    "see" anything, my buddy once installed cheats(for testing purpose) to his HL and joined VAC server... nothing... then he tried C-D server... C-D instantly prevented him from playing. And those crash & other problems are mainly caused by steam ( when steam gets an "update" C-D servers and clients are usually unplayable until C-D gets a new patch + I never had problems with C-D & wonHL ).
    I recommend using <a href='http://www.udpsoft.com/eye2/index.html' target='_blank'>All Seeing Eye</a> if you are lazy to check if server is "C-D only", ASE will start C-D automatickly if required ( and it will also close it when leaving game ). It also has much better "server finder" tools and can be used for many games.
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