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Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Awaiting your suggestions</div> Hey everyone,

throughout the last few months, I got approached by Customization members who'd like to see a more sophisticated forum subset to accomondate for the special needs of this part of the community. Having tossed the thought through various minds since then, I've come to agree on the necessity in principle, but realize that I lack the in-depth knowledge to make a qualified decision on the exact structure of the subforums myself. So, why shouldn't I ask you for input?

Below, I'd like to ask you to post your ideas for a possible structure of subforums that make sense for the Customization forum. This is supposed to be a brainstorming thread, so please refrain from comments on other peoples concepts. Repeat: <b>Comments on other peoples systems will be nuked.</b>

Here's two general requirements:<ul><li>No more than three additional subforums. The less, the better.</li><li>Easy to grasp purposes. If you need more than a line for the general description of a subforums purposes, chances are there's an easier way.</li></ul>
Your suggestions will be discussed by the moderation staff, the best entry will be used.

Thanks for your input.

-- Florian 'Nemesis Zero' Schwarzer
Community Lead
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  • JimJim Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 9989Members
    edited April 2004
    Since you have put a limit of 3 sub-forums, the usual subsets used on other forums can't happen. So I'm thinking maybe a Concept forum, a Development forum, and a Release forum <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • evilwallpaperevilwallpaper Join Date: 2004-01-30 Member: 25745Members, Constellation
    hmmm well the 3 forums i think you need are

    Customization Help and Troubleshooting

    Concept Art / Ideas / Team Building forum

    Forum for WIP and finished models to be shown and pimped
    - Main forum as it stands at the moment but without the concept art threads ideas and team building threads.
  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    NS Customization
    ---Customization Help and Troubleshooting Subforum
    ---Release Subforum
    ---Possibly a Broken [wips] subforum, for wips that are going nowhere fast.
  • Dorian_GrayDorian_Gray Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26581Members, Constellation
    Well my idea involved 4, but I'll re-work it for 3.
    1. WIP/Concept
    2. Releases
    3. Don't know what to call it exactly, but it would it would be a place to request a skinner, UV mapper or animator for your model. A forum for collaboration, where you can easily see exactly what people need.

    Original idea was separate forums for WIP and Concept, but they're kinda related.
  • JaegerJaeger Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10202Members
    I'd like to keep wips, releases and requests on the main forum where they're easily accessible, and move the Concepts to a sub-forum.

    -NS Customization
    THE location for replacement models, skins, sounds, and sprites. Post, download, discuss, and get help here. Nothing R-rated please.
    --Customization Help and Troubleshooting
    Post here if you're new to NS customization and have questions that weren't answered by the FAQs.
    --Art and Concepts
    Post here for modeling concepts, concept ideas, and other general modeling references.
  • CaptainPanakaCaptainPanaka Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4718Members
    edited April 2004
    mhm... I'd say add a "request" forum.

    where people can request their stuff and also request for help, if needed. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    /edit: typo
  • funbagsfunbags Join Date: 2003-06-08 Member: 17099Members
    Help forum
    Request forums (like...if i have something that needs meshing or skinning)
    Release forum
  • g0opyg0opy Join Date: 2003-11-02 Member: 22233Members, Constellation
    Help forum
    Request forum
    wip forum
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    posted in the desired thread... but i'll post it here too...


    simmilar to jaeger...

    --Customization Help and Troubleshooting
    Post here if you're new to NS customization and have questions that weren't answered by the FAQs.

    --Art and Concepts
    Post here for modeling concepts, concept ideas, and other general modeling references.


    but lump in requests with art and concepts
  • SpetsnazSpetsnaz Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24761Members, Constellation
    edited April 2004
    <b>Customization Help And Request Section</b> / would be for tuts and help for those in need in a modeling etc environment. Also for those people who want to request a model to be made!

    -----

    <b>Release Section</b> / for models that are complete and have been handed out to the NS community

    ----

    <b>General and Work In Progress</b> / For concept art and for people to show off their current projects before they are released, this forum can also be used for general modeling chat etc!
  • PhycoPhyco Omnipotent Join Date: 2003-12-24 Member: 24730Members
    edited April 2004
    <span style='color:white'>No comments, please.</span>
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    I'm personally fond of the WIP and releases to be right here in this section. Then, a subsection for help and troubleshooting (as it is now), and a subsection for requests and concept art.
  • SpetsnazSpetsnaz Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24761Members, Constellation
    now come to think of it im not sure if we need a request section i can see that becoming ignored <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    But we need a WIP section and a concept section!
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    I was thinking of something along the lines of Customization Help, Concept art and Releases.

    Customization Help - Does what it does.

    Model concept and artwork - Post art concepts of soon to be models.

    Releases forum - Ease the amount of "OMG where can I find XX model/YY pack?" and erases a sticky giving a lot more space for WIP threads.
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Spetsnaz+Apr 17 2004, 07:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spetsnaz @ Apr 17 2004, 07:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> now come to think of it im not sure if we need a request section i can see that becoming ignored <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    But we need a WIP section and a concept section! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    whereas a concept is sort of almost a request in itself...

    seperating the WIP and RELs out of the main forum will make the main forum have no clear purpose... taking the requests, concepts and artwork out of the main channel doesn't hurt it.

    lumping artwork and concepts in with requests make it so that the forum isn't ignored, those two are nice things taht we like to see.

    having the releases in the main forum is a benifit the the community because you open the forum, and are spammed with WIP and REL topics... giving us a feeling of an active community. it's a mental trick, but still works.
  • BigBullBigBull Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15123Members
    I do agree del.

    Mostly the sub-forums I would find use for is to seperate the requests and questions not so much the real content which makes the forum what the forum is today.

    a productive, and progressive forum is what we need, dont segregate it too much.

    I think only 2 subforums are needed, and heavily moderated.

    Customization Troubleshooting-Self Explanatory

    Requests & Concepts (bad name but you get it)- self explanatory
  • Black_ViperBlack_Viper Join Date: 2003-12-08 Member: 24157Members
    Cant have a rel sub fourm, it move to slow and just be a waist, so:

    --=Wip/Rel-Models, sprites, Sounds, Misc.
    --=TroubleShooting/help
    --=Concept/Reqest, where every concept from map models to gun models and everything else these crazy people can post.
  • SpetsnazSpetsnaz Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24761Members, Constellation
    edited April 2004
    <span style='color:white'>I'm taking a lot of good looks around here, but still, no comments, please.</span>
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    Well, i would just be happy with a cusomizer only fourm where outsiders cant post to keep them from flooding useless threads so we have mostly wip/rel's. Only let certian people who prove they do stuff in the community so they can post, but others can still read the threads.
  • Billy_SilverfishBilly_Silverfish Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15688Members
    <u>Troubleshooting</u> and <u>release</u> subforums. Main forum to be used for wips and general modelling discussion.

    or

    <u>Models (wip and release)</u> and <u>Sprites/sounds/etc (wip and release)</u> subforums. Main forum to be used for general discussion, requests, etc. Troubleshooting could either be included in the main forum or separated out into models and other help in the subforums.

    -Maus
  • Daza4Daza4 Kerc Kasha Join Date: 2003-04-06 Member: 15233Members
    edited April 2004
    Release
    Request
    Custom discussion(This is help also)
    More organized. and more n00b friendly so if i want a model all i have to do is go to one forum.
  • BigBullBigBull Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15123Members
    Why have a release sub-forum.

    it would be quiet for awhile, and not often used.
  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    but easy to find a release in. problem with the release thread is you cant search through it, you have to look at every page, which is time consuming.
  • SpetsnazSpetsnaz Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24761Members, Constellation
    release and wip together

    General

    Concept and Request
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    edited April 2004
    I think we go with

    ---Customization Technical Help and Troubleshooting Subforum

    For tutorials, programs not working, can't get the mods working, cool tricks like transparency, etc


    ---Broken [wips] subforum, for wips that are going nowhere fast.

    For help on MODELS, so that someone with a borked wip can post it and possibly get some attention.

    ---Requests, pimps, and Releases

    Basically what we have now, with a huge colossal sticky release thread, regularly maintained, teaser wip/release threads, and the standard request threads.



    I don't see the need for a "release only" subforum when we can use a thread as before. I do want a distinction made between technical help and genuine honest to goodness "I can't work on this model" help. The borked wips subforum could be a sign up job, so that we avoid "omgzor convertz teh CASULL!! Here is teh link" sort of stuff and instead keep it to things like modellers offloading to animators, UV mappers to skinners, etc etc.


    I have a horrible feeling that a "borked wips" forum would end up being "the place where wips go to die" but I'm still confident that AS A COMMUNITY we could pull together and try and prevent the deaths of wips.


    Thats my input anyway.






    Edit -

    Yeah I understand you've to hunt through the Release thread, perhaps there's a way to fix that though? Perhaps a huge megapost? Regularly edited first post with an "index" linking to the appropriate page/post?

    At the moment I use SHOW RESULTS BY POSTS and hit the appropriate "Post Preview". At least that takes you to the post in question. It'd be nice if we could use separate keywords, I don't think we can at the moment.
  • BlackPantherBlackPanther Join Date: 2002-02-11 Member: 197Members
    -General Customization (including WIP and release)
    --Help
    --Release
    --Concept
  • botchiballbotchiball Join Date: 2003-04-24 Member: 15810Members, Constellation
    i think everything should be left the way it is except to add a release sub-forum that is for releasing finished models and thats it. if you create a sub-forum for unfinished models, another for concepts, another for requests, and another for who knows what, there is a good chance people would say "f" it and not read them or only read through one of them. you're just going to make more work to do the same thing.

    the only reason for a release sub-forum is what 6john6doe6 said:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->problem with the release thread is you cant search through it, you have to look at every page, which is time consuming. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    and a release sub-forum would solve that problem.
  • BAshhBAshh Join Date: 2003-08-26 Member: 20222Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    -NS customization
    -- Help/Troubleshooting
    -- Works in progress/Concepts
    -- 'Want ads' - IE: "Need skinner!"

    (all mrels would be in the general NS Customization forum)
  • TalnoyTalnoy Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11779Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited April 2004
    Ns Customization - For discussion of models

    Sub1: Help Topics/Tutorials<could be overshadowed by general customization if the idea doesent fly.<meaning total deleation of this board

    Sub2: Model Concepts and Development

    Sub3: Model Release< could also be used for releasing half complete models or asking for help in completion
  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    I don't have time to read through 100 %... so if this has been suggested, shoot me. (but not hard, k?)


    Customization Forum
    -Concepts/Pictures/Blueprints
    --Weapons/Equipment
    --Player/Structures
    -Designs (actual built things... yeah, you know, the things after Concepts)
    --Weapons/Equipment
    --Player/Structures


    perhaps you could make a separate one for releases... but that'd be more than 2 separate forums and 3 subforms eh....
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