<!--QuoteBegin--ben0413+Oct. 29 2002,17:27--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (ben0413 @ Oct. 29 2002,17:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--DrBox+Oct. 29 2002,07:0--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (DrBox @ Oct. 29 2002,07<!--emo&:0--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'><!--endemo-->)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Kilmster+Oct. 28 2002,18:25--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Kilmster @ Oct. 28 2002,18:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->and less than 50% of the guns aren't from either counterstrike or firearms.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> THIS makes me laugh. Of course you'll see a lot of the same guns in mods that use REAL WORLD guns. You don't really have hundreds of different guns to choose from when you are going for the realistic gun idea. (excluding the various variations i.e. Ak 74/ak 47 or mp5, mp5sd etc..)
If you can name 10 automatic rifles in common usage nowadays, that aren't just variations on another in your list I'll be impressed.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'll do better than 10 automatic rifles in common usage, I'll give you a whole arsenal that I've never seen in any game that are used fairly commonly.. As follows:
(Feel free to check all of these)
Walther WA2000 L1A1 Self-Loading Rifle Enfield Individual Weapon L85A1 (SA80) INSAS Assault Rifle Galil ARM Beretta AR70/90 (Yes, an automatic rifle) SAR 80 Vektor R4 Kalashnikov AKM Franchi SPAS 15 (Ok, so it's really an automatic shotgun, but still, it is automatic) Heckler & Koch 13E Heckler & Koch HK21E Light Support Weapon L86A1 Stoner M63 Machine Gun RPK FN FNC Valmet M76
And those are just a few automatic rifles. Want pistols?
Smith and Wesson 1006 PSM (Pistolet Samozaryadniy Malogabaritniy or "Pistol, Self-Loading, Small") Browning High-Power Model 1935 Browning Double-Action CZ75 MAB PA-15 Star 30M
How bout sub-machine guns?
Steyr MP69 (No, not related to the Steyr AUG) Vigneron Samopal CZ Model 25 Beretta Model 12 (An awesome gun I must say) Beretta SC70 Spectre (Remember the Phantom from the N64s Goldeneye? That's really the Spectre) BXP M3A1
Well, enough showing off for now. Make me a mod with those weapons and that'll show everyone. There are really a lot more realistic guns out there that are a lot cooler than the normal ones.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> thats quite an impressive list <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> i still dont understand why they keep putting the same guns in every game, russia and the us werent the only countries that made weapons <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> maybe made the most kinds of weapons but still <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> heres a few more automatics and stuff assault rifles: russia: AN-94 Abakan AEK-971 OC-14 Groza AS Val germany: HK G3 HK HK33 & HK53 HK G41 HK G36 HK G11 Finland: Valmet Sako Rk.62 / 76 / 95 Valmet M82 Brazil: IMBEL MD-2 SMG's: Russia: Kiparis Kastan Kedr Klin Bizon Vikhr PP-90 AEK-919K new Chech respublik: Skorpion vz.61 Sa.23 the scorpion and Kiparis looks really alike <!--emo&:0--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'><!--endemo-->
First off the way you THOUGHT the game was gonna be wasnt even like Halo so i dont know where that came from.
Second the game IS nothing like Halo, its more like TFC, but that aint bad.
Its got classes for each team, but unlike TFC both teams have there own classes. The weapons are insance, much of the alien team has energy weapons and swords and some can even freeze you so they can just run up and slash your arse apart.
The humans have all kinds of weird things like the triple rockets, mini nuke launcher, a cluster bomb WHICH OWNS! This thing first blows then blows into like 10 chunks which all blow! Its sooo sweet.
As for the game play and maps, the play is decent but maps lack. The maps are intresting, but they just dont look like they had the time taken on them like the TFC maps or NS maps or many other games. The play is just like TFC basicly, run around blow crap up, shoot shoot shoot, kil kill kill, and probably die 20 times in the process.
BUT i say if you wanna kill KILL! If you wanna build a turret play NS. Its a decent game, and i give em credit for even trying. Good people to.
the g11 is somewhat scraped. no contery uses it sence it well.... was to expensive. kinda sad to. the rifle has near zero recoil and mags are light as hell.
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ok, all of you gun nuts out there are missing something
TS is deigned to be like an ACTION movie, thus they nabed the guns you see most often in action movies (thus all of the akimbo weapons)
all of those guns you have named, well most ppl will have never heard of them, thus why they are not in the game, insstead they used guns that are more comens and more ppl are familier with
oh well, personaly I like TS, but that is just b/c I periodicly like stupidly fast pased DM with stunts (I also love Opera, however no one plays that any more and it is leaving for UT2K3)
My favorite mod to date has been Rocket Arena (currenlty 3 but I was a big fan of 2 as well). I just love mindless killing. But i do like tactics as well when they are needed, CS is allright for a while, more fun at lans though. AHL imo has gone down since Beta 4, and I hope NS is fast paced enough to keep my interested (which by the sound of things Im correct in that statement)
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THIS makes me laugh. Of course you'll see a lot of the same guns in mods that use REAL WORLD guns. You don't really have hundreds of different guns to choose from when you are going for the realistic gun idea. (excluding the various variations i.e. Ak 74/ak 47 or mp5, mp5sd etc..)
If you can name 10 automatic rifles in common usage nowadays, that aren't just variations on another in your list I'll be impressed.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'll do better than 10 automatic rifles in common usage, I'll give you a whole arsenal that I've never seen in any game that are used fairly commonly.. As follows:
(Feel free to check all of these)
Walther WA2000
L1A1 Self-Loading Rifle
Enfield Individual Weapon L85A1 (SA80)
INSAS Assault Rifle
Galil ARM
Beretta AR70/90 (Yes, an automatic rifle)
SAR 80
Vektor R4
Kalashnikov AKM
Franchi SPAS 15 (Ok, so it's really an automatic shotgun, but still, it is automatic)
Heckler & Koch 13E
Heckler & Koch HK21E
Light Support Weapon L86A1
Stoner M63 Machine Gun
RPK
FN FNC
Valmet M76
And those are just a few automatic rifles. Want pistols?
Smith and Wesson 1006
PSM (Pistolet Samozaryadniy Malogabaritniy or "Pistol, Self-Loading, Small")
Browning High-Power Model 1935
Browning Double-Action
CZ75
MAB PA-15
Star 30M
How bout sub-machine guns?
Steyr MP69 (No, not related to the Steyr AUG)
Vigneron
Samopal CZ Model 25
Beretta Model 12 (An awesome gun I must say)
Beretta SC70
Spectre (Remember the Phantom from the N64s Goldeneye? That's really the Spectre)
BXP
M3A1
Well, enough showing off for now. Make me a mod with those weapons and that'll show everyone. There are really a lot more realistic guns out there that are a lot cooler than the normal ones.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
thats quite an impressive list <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
i still dont understand why they keep putting the same guns in every game, russia and the us werent the only countries that made weapons <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> maybe made the most kinds of weapons but still <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->
heres a few more automatics and stuff
assault rifles:
russia:
AN-94 Abakan
AEK-971
OC-14 Groza
AS Val
germany:
HK G3
HK HK33 & HK53
HK G41
HK G36
HK G11
Finland:
Valmet Sako Rk.62 / 76 / 95
Valmet M82
Brazil:
IMBEL MD-2
SMG's:
Russia:
Kiparis
Kastan
Kedr
Klin
Bizon
Vikhr
PP-90
AEK-919K new
Chech respublik:
Skorpion vz.61
Sa.23
the scorpion and Kiparis looks really alike <!--emo&:0--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'><!--endemo-->
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First off the way you THOUGHT the game was gonna be wasnt even like Halo so i dont know where that came from.
Second the game IS nothing like Halo, its more like TFC, but that aint bad.
Its got classes for each team, but unlike TFC both teams have there own classes. The weapons are insance, much of the alien team has energy weapons and swords and some can even freeze you so they can just run up and slash your arse apart.
The humans have all kinds of weird things like the triple rockets, mini nuke launcher, a cluster bomb WHICH OWNS! This thing first blows then blows into like 10 chunks which all blow! Its sooo sweet.
As for the game play and maps, the play is decent but maps lack. The maps are intresting, but they just dont look like they had the time taken on them like the TFC maps or NS maps or many other games. The play is just like TFC basicly, run around blow crap up, shoot shoot shoot, kil kill kill, and probably die 20 times in the process.
BUT i say if you wanna kill KILL! If you wanna build a turret play NS. Its a decent game, and i give em credit for even trying. Good people to.
TS is deigned to be like an ACTION movie, thus they nabed the guns you see most often in action movies (thus all of the akimbo weapons)
all of those guns you have named, well most ppl will have never heard of them, thus why they are not in the game, insstead they used guns that are more comens and more ppl are familier with
oh well, personaly I like TS, but that is just b/c I periodicly like stupidly fast pased DM with stunts (I also love Opera, however no one plays that any more and it is leaving for UT2K3)