How Do They Do It?
Rushakra
Join Date: 2004-03-25 Member: 27523Members
Join Date: 2004-03-25 Member: 27523Members
<div class="IPBDescription">One of God's sick jokes?</div> Have you ever played, and LOST, to a Marine team so MIND-NUMBINGLY STUPID that you just wanted to scream or smack your head against the wall?
I don't know how or why it happened, but the marines kept taking down our nodes despite the spore clouds they emitted and electrifying our own. I went fade late-game and started taking down nodes, but everytime I got one down, another would go up on the other side of the map. The marines had a few good players with shotguns that ran around with jetpacks just DECIMATING every skulk or gorge they saw, but they never touched a hive.
They had relocated to Sub-Sector and locked down Cargo nice and tight with the biggest turret farm you ever saw (I couldn't even get out of the vent before I died / lagged out and THEN died). The Commander was such a &(*@#%&QW*#&TRWQYUFKSDHYF(S*DUYF ing idiot, too. Come end-game, he gave his jetpackers HMGs (he had heavy armor researched, and this server had a Jetpack+Heavy mod running) and told them to siege out our hive.
The hive with no offense chambers.
Against a team with no Onos, no Fade, no res but Pipeline's.
Hell, a Gorge was building outside of the map near Skylights. He had two DCs up and the commander wanted to siege the gorge out.. three marines standing at the window, they could have stucked out, killed the gorge, knife the DCs, and stucked back in (they all had jetpacks).
It took them so long to get their sieges up outside of Power Silo (oh no, jetpackers with HMGs and level 3 everything! Look out for that one-hive skulk!) that we actually got an Onos, and he did a good deal of damage. Took out the phase gate and the TF to Cargo and we had a hive going up. After they finally siege out the defenseless Pipeline, the Onos is running around and falls to a flying mob of shotgunners.
"OWNED!!!!" is the message that spams across the marine team chat (at this point I was on the marine team, doing everything in my power to **** up whatever the commander wanted done, in addition to cries of "Lamers" and "unskilled cowards"). Yes, the Redemption Onos with no hive to jump to is mauled by a pack of marines and he was "owned." Lamed more like it.
It was a horrible, horrible game. Marines that didn't miss in the first half (competant or aimbotting? Not quite sure) then marines without brains just playing off what their prior teammates established. The commander was incapable of taking out any structure without sieging. There was a TF and sieges at -every node.- OH NO THE RES NODES SHOOT SPORES! Come, on they had SHOTGUNS and HMGs. I saw the amount of med and ammo spamming their commander was capable of, why not use it? (Oddly enough, he never bothered to spam during a fight.. only after it. During the assault on the hive, where I mustered up two other guys and charged in there.. not a thing was dropped. After every single chamber was dead.. MEDSPAM MEDSPAM MEDSPAM. Wow, thanks?)
Call me bitter or whatever else you'd like, but things like that just turn me off. When do aliens get siege cannons? :/ <!--emo&::siege::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I don't know how or why it happened, but the marines kept taking down our nodes despite the spore clouds they emitted and electrifying our own. I went fade late-game and started taking down nodes, but everytime I got one down, another would go up on the other side of the map. The marines had a few good players with shotguns that ran around with jetpacks just DECIMATING every skulk or gorge they saw, but they never touched a hive.
They had relocated to Sub-Sector and locked down Cargo nice and tight with the biggest turret farm you ever saw (I couldn't even get out of the vent before I died / lagged out and THEN died). The Commander was such a &(*@#%&QW*#&TRWQYUFKSDHYF(S*DUYF ing idiot, too. Come end-game, he gave his jetpackers HMGs (he had heavy armor researched, and this server had a Jetpack+Heavy mod running) and told them to siege out our hive.
The hive with no offense chambers.
Against a team with no Onos, no Fade, no res but Pipeline's.
Hell, a Gorge was building outside of the map near Skylights. He had two DCs up and the commander wanted to siege the gorge out.. three marines standing at the window, they could have stucked out, killed the gorge, knife the DCs, and stucked back in (they all had jetpacks).
It took them so long to get their sieges up outside of Power Silo (oh no, jetpackers with HMGs and level 3 everything! Look out for that one-hive skulk!) that we actually got an Onos, and he did a good deal of damage. Took out the phase gate and the TF to Cargo and we had a hive going up. After they finally siege out the defenseless Pipeline, the Onos is running around and falls to a flying mob of shotgunners.
"OWNED!!!!" is the message that spams across the marine team chat (at this point I was on the marine team, doing everything in my power to **** up whatever the commander wanted done, in addition to cries of "Lamers" and "unskilled cowards"). Yes, the Redemption Onos with no hive to jump to is mauled by a pack of marines and he was "owned." Lamed more like it.
It was a horrible, horrible game. Marines that didn't miss in the first half (competant or aimbotting? Not quite sure) then marines without brains just playing off what their prior teammates established. The commander was incapable of taking out any structure without sieging. There was a TF and sieges at -every node.- OH NO THE RES NODES SHOOT SPORES! Come, on they had SHOTGUNS and HMGs. I saw the amount of med and ammo spamming their commander was capable of, why not use it? (Oddly enough, he never bothered to spam during a fight.. only after it. During the assault on the hive, where I mustered up two other guys and charged in there.. not a thing was dropped. After every single chamber was dead.. MEDSPAM MEDSPAM MEDSPAM. Wow, thanks?)
Call me bitter or whatever else you'd like, but things like that just turn me off. When do aliens get siege cannons? :/ <!--emo&::siege::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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aliens should get some kind of organic seige to even the playing field against the seige spamming, shotty toeting, drugged up to the eye ball marines...
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No, no they shouldn't.
They had double and the rest of the map (so we assumed) so me and one other marine ventured to the hive to the right of ms, I forget the name. It was empty? WTH? We capped one rt, then another, then another, then the one in REFINERY, which the alien team had not gotten either!
With PGs in both hives and most of the rts on the map, we ended the game in 5 minutes with a siege from below feedwater. The entire game I was thinking, "How haven't we lost yet?" As you can see, this is the case of an alien team losing to a mind-numbingly bad marine team because apparently they were so cocky they were going to win NO ONE BOTHERED PUTTING UP A HIVE.
A stupid team beats an even stupider team. Sieges ended the game, but really the marines never should have been in the position to siege in the first place.
aliens should get some kind of organic seige to even the playing field against the seige spamming, shotty toeting, drugged up to the eye ball marines...
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no aliens shouldnt get seige....ur supposed to stop the marines from building the seige near ur hive. its not unbalanced the aliens team just has to do something about it besides sitting there saying "they're gonna seige our hive someone stop them".
usually if I play such matches it lasts untill the perm gorge (me) dies so much or has to use res so much that he is on 0.
Then its over in 2 min.
really great. *sarcasm*
aliens should get some kind of organic seige to even the playing field against the seige spamming, shotty toeting, drugged up to the eye ball marines...
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yes , Id call it "skulk-that-brings-tf-down" chamber
usually if I play such matches it lasts untill the perm gorge (me) dies so much or has to use res so much that he is on 0.
Then its over in 2 min.
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Gorging vs lockdowns is the worst thing you can do - your only option is to keep all nodes except the 3 hive nodes down, and save up for Fades and Onoses with whatever nodes you have left - and then in one coordinated strike, break a lockdown.
Long game in ns_bast, 2.0 days. After a 30 minute fight, aliens conquer the entire map desipite the game size advantage the rines had (12vs12). OC's everywhere, D-chambers a-plentiful and movement chambers to boot! Teams were about equally skilled, rines were down to their last rt and have relocated to engine. I, as the only onos start to take rines out one by one in the hallway infront of engine. But wasn't about to rush in the hive bymyself, decides to wait for my teamates to join me.
Long story short, we had four onos at one point, and could not reach the rines that have entrenched themselves in engine with hmgs. Due to the fact that we had to crouch/jump/crouch just to ge into the hive area. After 20 more minutes of fighting, rines go heavy and walk up engine with seiges canons behind them, take the tiny walk way to refinery cat walk, where onos couldn't reach them and begin to seige ref from within the little room overlooking ref. Rines continue their rampage through more tiny vents which lead them to tram tunnel, a death trap for onos. Shortly after which, hives goes down to more seige.
The end.
it's called a 2-hive gorge
start using them :'/
tankbuster, regarding your story
you should have had lerks sporing marines (HA wasn't given out yet, was it?) and umbraing oni, rather than just throw suicidal oni at hmgs
moreover, two fades coming in, absorbing damage and going out, would either force a marine to reload, giving an onos some time to close on the marine
or leave him with a clip low on bullets, uncapable of killing a healthy onos (with umbra -.-)
I don't know why ns_bast has been re-released. It's still as bad as before. Double res too close to marine start. Vent system inaccessible to onos -but allows heavies to go anywhere around the map. Engine hive is siegeable from marine start.
Aside from the minor change in engine hive, ns_bast still needs a lot of work.
yeh, I know gorges can do little vs 2 hive lock. (heal of course)
But what I usually find in 2 hive lock is when they did clear it out, and I get a hive, the idiots get it destroyed again. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Some ppl should go back to cs. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Wookies... with Lightsabers...
Problem solved <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->