<!--QuoteBegin-funbags+Apr 29 2004, 11:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (funbags @ Apr 29 2004, 11:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> im currently working on the last one meph mosted <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> sigh, anyone interrested in asking me perhaps? Aww, nevermind, this will just end in flames because I wonder why none asks the concept artist before modeling...
<!--QuoteBegin-Daza400+Apr 30 2004, 04:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Daza400 @ Apr 30 2004, 04:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> because you posted a concept TO BE MODELED? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> But not for anyone to model, right? I for example doesnt like a certail person on these forums, therefore I dont want him to model it.
If you also read in my first post, you might notice the large red text saying: "Do not modify ! Ask me, Mephmage, before usage of this image."
you don't like chrono, we understand that... so tell him you don't want him modeling your concepts, have him agree... and be done with it. (i find it childish, but ohh well)
<!--QuoteBegin-mephmage+Apr 30 2004, 06:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mephmage @ Apr 30 2004, 06:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Daza400+Apr 30 2004, 04:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Daza400 @ Apr 30 2004, 04:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> because you posted a concept TO BE MODELED? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> But not for anyone to model, right? I for example doesnt like a certail person on these forums, therefore I dont want him to model it.
If you also read in my first post, you might notice the large red text saying: "Do not modify ! Ask me, Mephmage, before usage of this image."
See? I havent done anything wrong this time <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> well, ya' see, short of going to a mod and complaining, you're doing all you can right about now...
Oewn CONSTANTLY rips my designs, and reuses parts, then claims it as his own work...i've told him time and again, to knock it off, but he still won't.....TECHNICALLY, i could sue him (or anyone else who does it) for stealing intelectual property, because i do actually hold copyrights on all marked images i make.....but i really don't have time to be suing some bloke over a **** drawing done in MS-Paint....if he keeps it up, i may, but i'd recommend you copyright your stuff....
Oh...by tha by...i noticed a few things about this rifle that look like ideas you ganked from me.....slick...don't do it again, please....
<!--QuoteBegin-Acid-Snake+Apr 30 2004, 06:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Acid-Snake @ Apr 30 2004, 06:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-mephmage+Apr 30 2004, 06:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mephmage @ Apr 30 2004, 06:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Daza400+Apr 30 2004, 04:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Daza400 @ Apr 30 2004, 04:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> because you posted a concept TO BE MODELED? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> But not for anyone to model, right? I for example doesnt like a certail person on these forums, therefore I dont want him to model it.
If you also read in my first post, you might notice the large red text saying: "Do not modify ! Ask me, Mephmage, before usage of this image."
See? I havent done anything wrong this time <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> well, ya' see, short of going to a mod and complaining, you're doing all you can right about now...
Oewn CONSTANTLY rips my designs, and reuses parts, then claims it as his own work...i've told him time and again, to knock it off, but he still won't.....TECHNICALLY, i could sue him (or anyone else who does it) for stealing intelectual property, because i do actually hold copyrights on all marked images i make.....but i really don't have time to be suing some bloke over a **** drawing done in MS-Paint....if he keeps it up, i may, but i'd recommend you copyright your stuff....
Oh...by tha by...i noticed a few things about this rifle that look like ideas you ganked from me.....slick...don't do it again, please.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> lol? Like WHAT have I taken?
Perhaps the magazine idea, to show it, but thats something between all concept artists, you borrow IDEAS from eachother, but I havent ripped anything from you, and what I know I havent taken any of your ideas either <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-mephmage+Apr 30 2004, 06:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mephmage @ Apr 30 2004, 06:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol? Like WHAT have I taken?
Perhaps the magazine idea, to show it, but thats something between all concept artists, you borrow IDEAS from eachother, but I havent ripped anything from you, and what I know I havent taken any of your ideas either <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And no...i never said you ripped parts or anything...you at least don't do that...it's direct translation of design elements (that you claimed you didn't even like in tha first place) that i mind......saying "hey, that's kinda cool, i wanna do something like that" is one thing......seeing it and saying "Hmm..i'm gonna copy that" is something else altogether...
so yeah...design element....tha mag idea...tha cross section, tha windows in tha mag, tha stacked round diagram...all stuff i did first...
You whine about how stupid tha inner/outer shell design on a mag is, and if someone hits it, it's going to blow up......then you use it?...Hypocrisy anyone?
oh yeah, and your attitude is rubbish as well...why don't you brinig it down a notch or 2?
Perhaps the magazine idea, to show it, but thats something between all concept artists, you borrow IDEAS from eachother, but I havent ripped anything from you, and what I know I havent taken any of your ideas either <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And no...i never said you ripped parts or anything...you at least don't do that...it's direct translation of design elements (that you claimed you didn't even like in tha first place) that i mind......saying "hey, that's kinda cool, i wanna do something like that" is one thing......seeing it and saying "Hmm..i'm gonna copy that" is something else altogether...
so yeah...design element....tha mag idea...tha cross section, tha windows in tha mag, tha stacked round diagram...all stuff i did first...
You whine about how stupid tha inner/outer shell design on a mag is, and if someone hits it, it's going to blow up......then you use it?...Hypocrisy anyone?
oh yeah, and your attitude is rubbish as well...why don't you brinig it down a notch or 2? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Heh, I borrow ideas because people like it, I never said I like my own concepts?
Btw. Here is something for you guys who want something... Else heh...
<!--QuoteBegin-mephmage+Apr 30 2004, 07:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mephmage @ Apr 30 2004, 07:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Heh, I borrow ideas because people like it, I never said I like my own concepts? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well then...that was a thoroughly useless statement....
nowhere did i say you like your concepts....and if you don't like them, why draw them?
as far as you ganking ideas and design elements "because people like it"....i think you're mistaken...i don't think tha general concensus on theft is that it's a GOOD thing....i tend to believe that people find theft rather distasteful....
now before you start any crap about tha fact that I MYSELF borrow design concepts from real guns....it's not tha same thing....if they were concept artwork, it would be tha same thing.....they're real guns. If i were borrowing design elements from real guns, to make a real gun, THEN it would be a bad thing....see, when you transfer tha medium, tha rule stays tha same, but when tha 2 mediums are different, it's not...
anyways...it's still screwed up, please don't do it again, m'kay?
<a href='http://www.ohnoes.org/' target='_blank'>This Just In: Belgian weapons manufacturer Fabrique Nationale has sued German arms consortium Heckler&Koch for their use of a picatinny rail system on the MP-7.</a>
FN representatives have released the following statement:
"They stoled our design elements!!!!1oneone"
Seriously, Meph and Snake, such whining in this thread. I should stomp both of you on the basis of "design elements", since you <i>obviously</i> ripped them off of me after making the same windowed magazines years ago.
<!--QuoteBegin-Jaeger+Apr 30 2004, 07:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jaeger @ Apr 30 2004, 07:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://www.ohnoes.org/' target='_blank'>This Just In: Belgian weapons manufacturer Fabrique Nationale has sued German arms consortium Heckler&Koch for their use of a picatinny rail system on the MP-7.</a>
FN representatives have released the following statement:
"They stoled our design elements!!!!1oneone"
Seriously, Meph and Snake, such whining in this thread. I should stomp both of you on the basis of "design elements", since you <i>obviously</i> ripped them off of me after making the same windowed magazines years ago.
This forum needs a :rolleyes: smiley. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I dont rip anything from anyone, I borrow ideas, they dont look the same, they're just based on stuff that other ppl have made, like real guns, or other ppls concepts, toys etc.
If I draw a handgun, then you draw a handgun, isnt that stealing from me? Because I made a handgun first, then you ripped my idea and made a handgun yourself?
Aww man, grow up, ur logics stink.
And I dont whine, Im trying to get him to understand certain facts, which he doesnt wanna realize.
just wonder how you should shoot with this thingy when you got the buttstock at your shoulder <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
just wonder how you should shoot with this thingy when you got the buttstock at your shoulder <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Putting my hand in the position based on the size of the gun, yes, it would be extremely uncomfortable to hold. Because combined with the short stock, the badly placed thumb hole and the ridiculous angle of the grip, you've got to keep your hand in an extremely awkward position with your elbow stuck out really far and really tight. Horrible design if you ask me.
Also,you better pray that the bolt doesn't move at all, because if it does, that sucker's gonna take your eye out.
I mean sure, it looks ok, i guess, but aestetics kinda take a second place to common sense.
Also, all this talk of concept theft and the like. Meph, get over it. You posted them on a public forum and you should be <b>**** grateful</b> that someone would put out their own time to work on your concept. So what if you don't like that person? They obviously hold no grudge against you otherwise they wouldn't waste their time on your concept. You're acting like a **** child, grow up. Besides, with the talk in another thread about a stolen concept, guess what, you stole this concept from a Thompson. Oh? What was that? Inspiration they call it.... sure....
just wonder how you should shoot with this thingy when you got the buttstock at your shoulder <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Putting my hand in the position based on the size of the gun, yes, it would be extremely uncomfortable to hold. Because combined with the short stock, the badly placed thumb hole and the ridiculous angle of the grip, you've got to keep your hand in an extremely awkward position with your elbow stuck out really far and really tight. Horrible design if you ask me.
Also,you better pray that the bolt doesn't move at all, because if it does, that sucker's gonna take your eye out.
I mean sure, it looks ok, i guess, but aestetics kinda take a second place to common sense.
Also, all this talk of concept theft and the like. Meph, get over it. You posted them on a public forum and you should be <b>**** grateful</b> that someone would put out their own time to work on your concept. So what if you don't like that person? They obviously hold no grudge against you otherwise they wouldn't waste their time on your concept. You're acting like a **** child, grow up. Besides, with the talk in another thread about a stolen concept, guess what, you stole this concept from a Thompson. Oh? What was that? Inspiration they call it.... sure.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I tried to make it ergonomic, the angle of the handle is identical to my air-soft gun hunting rifle, so it should work. it doesnt have a hole though, but a \___/ on top of it, or well u get my point.
And WTH are you talking about? It was acid-snake who said that I were stealing stuff, not vice versa... So flame at him, not at me, I just said that it aint stealing if you get ideas from someone elses concepts.
just wonder how you should shoot with this thingy when you got the buttstock at your shoulder? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Putting my hand in the position based on the size of the gun, yes, it would be extremely uncomfortable to hold. Because combined with the short stock, the badly placed thumb hole and the ridiculous angle of the grip, you've got to keep your hand in an extremely awkward position with your elbow stuck out really far and really tight. Horrible design if you ask me.
Also,you better pray that the bolt doesn't move at all, because if it does, that sucker's gonna take your eye out.
I mean sure, it looks ok, i guess, but aestetics kinda take a second place to common sense.
Also, all this talk of concept theft and the like. Meph, get over it. You posted them on a public forum and you should be <b>**** grateful</b> that someone would put out their own time to work on your concept. So what if you don't like that person? They obviously hold no grudge against you otherwise they wouldn't waste their time on your concept. You're acting like a **** child, grow up. Besides, with the talk in another thread about a stolen concept, guess what, you stole this concept from a Thompson. Oh? What was that? Inspiration they call it.... sure.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I tried to make it ergonomic, the angle of the handle is identical to my air-soft gun hunting rifle, so it should work. it doesnt have a hole though, but a \___/ on top of it, or well u get my point.
And WTH are you talking about? It was acid-snake who said that I were stealing stuff, not vice versa... So flame at him, not at me, I just said that it aint stealing if you get ideas from someone elses concepts. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No, I wont let a guy that thinks rape, murder, pedophilia, woman abuse etc. is right, model my concept, that would make me look bad, and since Im against all of those things, then I wont support that person.
I dont want someone that doesnt deserve it get credits for something thats actually an idea of mine.
just wonder how you should shoot with this thingy when you got the buttstock at your shoulder <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Putting my hand in the position based on the size of the gun, yes, it would be extremely uncomfortable to hold. Because combined with the short stock, the badly placed thumb hole and the ridiculous angle of the grip, you've got to keep your hand in an extremely awkward position with your elbow stuck out really far and really tight. Horrible design if you ask me.
Also,you better pray that the bolt doesn't move at all, because if it does, that sucker's gonna take your eye out.
I mean sure, it looks ok, i guess, but aestetics kinda take a second place to common sense.
Also, all this talk of concept theft and the like. Meph, get over it. You posted them on a public forum and you should be <b>**** grateful</b> that someone would put out their own time to work on your concept. So what if you don't like that person? They obviously hold no grudge against you otherwise they wouldn't waste their time on your concept. You're acting like a **** child, grow up. Besides, with the talk in another thread about a stolen concept, guess what, you stole this concept from a Thompson. Oh? What was that? Inspiration they call it.... sure....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
thank u esuna you've but my thoughts across exactly
both towards the concept and the attitude of mephmage
<!--QuoteBegin-Jaeger+Apr 30 2004, 07:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jaeger @ Apr 30 2004, 07:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://www.ohnoes.org/' target='_blank'>This Just In: Belgian weapons manufacturer Fabrique Nationale has sued German arms consortium Heckler&Koch for their use of a picatinny rail system on the MP-7.</a>
FN representatives have released the following statement:
"They stoled our design elements!!!!1oneone"
Seriously, Meph and Snake, such whining in this thread. I should stomp both of you on the basis of "design elements", since you <i>obviously</i> ripped them off of me after making the same windowed magazines years ago.
This forum needs a :rolleyes: smiley. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> HAHA!
Funny Jeager...
A pict. rail is really a generic standard that just about ALL guns employ...i wouldn't say it's tha same thing...
i'm not whining, i'm simply pointing out facts, and expressing concern...there's a HUGE difference....
if you look at tha design he used (For the mag) though...Structure-wise, it's a dead copy of what i did...and may i point out yet again that he bashed that design element at tha time, yet he's using it now....hypocrisy, AND unoriginality...2 for 2 so far....
i haven't seen any of your designs...or at least i don't think i have...PM me an example?....
strenght of a arm/hand is when the hand and wrist and arm are strait, thats why a bull pup design is much better, utulises the space behind for usable space and forces ppl to keep ing there arm hand and wrist quite strait in a line
think of ppl stomping in concrete blocks, they keep there under arm and rest in a strait line
Your acting like you did any of these concepts out of your brain i tell u what... those guns and i mean every one you conceptet is a somehow copy of an existing gun, i allready said it in another thread that your copyright stuff is totally unprofessional waste. see you really should inform yourself about COPYRIGHTS. Cause at this moment you dont have any (not that you wouldnt have them if those guns where really NEW, but they arent new so you dont have those copyrights)..... ohh and before i forget to say it
This is a public forum anyone in here can use your concept and model it ..... if you dont want people to model your ideas well do it like me DONT post the stuff you dont want to be modelled by someone else easy as that ...
p.s. learn common manners ... learn to speak to people on a normal basis and a normal kind of human sense..
sometimes (or more often) u act like a child wich doesnt get what he wants and because of this starts to cry and get angry
btw esuna i love your posts 8)
p.p.s. i dont like any of your concepts (my opinion)
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->well this is something i been putting together... only good and helpful feedbacks plz... no "it suck"... plz
haha, nice stealing mate!
Thats my concept, that you've modified ROUGHLY, same colours, same idea, same stuff.. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
... meph qoute ^
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I just said that it aint stealing if you get ideas from someone elses concepts.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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sigh, anyone interrested in asking me perhaps? Aww, nevermind, this will just end in flames because I wonder why none asks the concept artist before modeling...
But not for anyone to model, right? I for example doesnt like a certail person on these forums, therefore I dont want him to model it.
If you also read in my first post, you might notice the large red text saying:
"Do not modify ! Ask me, Mephmage, before usage of this image."
See? I havent done anything wrong this time
But not for anyone to model, right? I for example doesnt like a certail person on these forums, therefore I dont want him to model it.
If you also read in my first post, you might notice the large red text saying:
"Do not modify ! Ask me, Mephmage, before usage of this image."
See? I havent done anything wrong this time <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
well, ya' see, short of going to a mod and complaining, you're doing all you can right about now...
Oewn CONSTANTLY rips my designs, and reuses parts, then claims it as his own work...i've told him time and again, to knock it off, but he still won't.....TECHNICALLY, i could sue him (or anyone else who does it) for stealing intelectual property, because i do actually hold copyrights on all marked images i make.....but i really don't have time to be suing some bloke over a **** drawing done in MS-Paint....if he keeps it up, i may, but i'd recommend you copyright your stuff....
Oh...by tha by...i noticed a few things about this rifle that look like ideas you ganked from me.....slick...don't do it again, please....
But not for anyone to model, right? I for example doesnt like a certail person on these forums, therefore I dont want him to model it.
If you also read in my first post, you might notice the large red text saying:
"Do not modify ! Ask me, Mephmage, before usage of this image."
See? I havent done anything wrong this time <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
well, ya' see, short of going to a mod and complaining, you're doing all you can right about now...
Oewn CONSTANTLY rips my designs, and reuses parts, then claims it as his own work...i've told him time and again, to knock it off, but he still won't.....TECHNICALLY, i could sue him (or anyone else who does it) for stealing intelectual property, because i do actually hold copyrights on all marked images i make.....but i really don't have time to be suing some bloke over a **** drawing done in MS-Paint....if he keeps it up, i may, but i'd recommend you copyright your stuff....
Oh...by tha by...i noticed a few things about this rifle that look like ideas you ganked from me.....slick...don't do it again, please.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol? Like WHAT have I taken?
Perhaps the magazine idea, to show it, but thats something between all concept artists, you borrow IDEAS from eachother, but I havent ripped anything from you, and what I know I havent taken any of your ideas either <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Perhaps the magazine idea, to show it, but thats something between all concept artists, you borrow IDEAS from eachother, but I havent ripped anything from you, and what I know I havent taken any of your ideas either <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And no...i never said you ripped parts or anything...you at least don't do that...it's direct translation of design elements (that you claimed you didn't even like in tha first place) that i mind......saying "hey, that's kinda cool, i wanna do something like that" is one thing......seeing it and saying "Hmm..i'm gonna copy that" is something else altogether...
so yeah...design element....tha mag idea...tha cross section, tha windows in tha mag, tha stacked round diagram...all stuff i did first...
You whine about how stupid tha inner/outer shell design on a mag is, and if someone hits it, it's going to blow up......then you use it?...Hypocrisy anyone?
oh yeah, and your attitude is rubbish as well...why don't you brinig it down a notch or 2?
Perhaps the magazine idea, to show it, but thats something between all concept artists, you borrow IDEAS from eachother, but I havent ripped anything from you, and what I know I havent taken any of your ideas either <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And no...i never said you ripped parts or anything...you at least don't do that...it's direct translation of design elements (that you claimed you didn't even like in tha first place) that i mind......saying "hey, that's kinda cool, i wanna do something like that" is one thing......seeing it and saying "Hmm..i'm gonna copy that" is something else altogether...
so yeah...design element....tha mag idea...tha cross section, tha windows in tha mag, tha stacked round diagram...all stuff i did first...
You whine about how stupid tha inner/outer shell design on a mag is, and if someone hits it, it's going to blow up......then you use it?...Hypocrisy anyone?
oh yeah, and your attitude is rubbish as well...why don't you brinig it down a notch or 2? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Heh, I borrow ideas because people like it, I never said I like my own concepts?
Btw. Here is something for you guys who want something... Else heh...
Edit: Err, noticed a problem on it, fixed though!
Well then...that was a thoroughly useless statement....
nowhere did i say you like your concepts....and if you don't like them, why draw them?
as far as you ganking ideas and design elements "because people like it"....i think you're mistaken...i don't think tha general concensus on theft is that it's a GOOD thing....i tend to believe that people find theft rather distasteful....
now before you start any crap about tha fact that I MYSELF borrow design concepts from real guns....it's not tha same thing....if they were concept artwork, it would be tha same thing.....they're real guns. If i were borrowing design elements from real guns, to make a real gun, THEN it would be a bad thing....see, when you transfer tha medium, tha rule stays tha same, but when tha 2 mediums are different, it's not...
anyways...it's still screwed up, please don't do it again, m'kay?
FN representatives have released the following statement:
"They stoled our design elements!!!!1oneone"
Seriously, Meph and Snake, such whining in this thread. I should stomp both of you on the basis of "design elements", since you <i>obviously</i> ripped them off of me after making the same windowed magazines years ago.
This forum needs a :rolleyes: smiley.
FN representatives have released the following statement:
"They stoled our design elements!!!!1oneone"
Seriously, Meph and Snake, such whining in this thread. I should stomp both of you on the basis of "design elements", since you <i>obviously</i> ripped them off of me after making the same windowed magazines years ago.
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I dont rip anything from anyone, I borrow ideas, they dont look the same, they're just based on stuff that other ppl have made, like real guns, or other ppls concepts, toys etc.
If I draw a handgun, then you draw a handgun, isnt that stealing from me? Because I made a handgun first, then you ripped my idea and made a handgun yourself?
Aww man, grow up, ur logics stink.
And I dont whine, Im trying to get him to understand certain facts, which he doesnt wanna realize.
just wonder how you should shoot with this thingy when you got the buttstock at your shoulder <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
just wonder how you should shoot with this thingy when you got the buttstock at your shoulder <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Putting my hand in the position based on the size of the gun, yes, it would be extremely uncomfortable to hold. Because combined with the short stock, the badly placed thumb hole and the ridiculous angle of the grip, you've got to keep your hand in an extremely awkward position with your elbow stuck out really far and really tight. Horrible design if you ask me.
Also,you better pray that the bolt doesn't move at all, because if it does, that sucker's gonna take your eye out.
I mean sure, it looks ok, i guess, but aestetics kinda take a second place to common sense.
Also, all this talk of concept theft and the like. Meph, get over it. You posted them on a public forum and you should be <b>**** grateful</b> that someone would put out their own time to work on your concept. So what if you don't like that person? They obviously hold no grudge against you otherwise they wouldn't waste their time on your concept. You're acting like a **** child, grow up. Besides, with the talk in another thread about a stolen concept, guess what, you stole this concept from a Thompson. Oh? What was that? Inspiration they call it.... sure....
just wonder how you should shoot with this thingy when you got the buttstock at your shoulder <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Putting my hand in the position based on the size of the gun, yes, it would be extremely uncomfortable to hold. Because combined with the short stock, the badly placed thumb hole and the ridiculous angle of the grip, you've got to keep your hand in an extremely awkward position with your elbow stuck out really far and really tight. Horrible design if you ask me.
Also,you better pray that the bolt doesn't move at all, because if it does, that sucker's gonna take your eye out.
I mean sure, it looks ok, i guess, but aestetics kinda take a second place to common sense.
Also, all this talk of concept theft and the like. Meph, get over it. You posted them on a public forum and you should be <b>**** grateful</b> that someone would put out their own time to work on your concept. So what if you don't like that person? They obviously hold no grudge against you otherwise they wouldn't waste their time on your concept. You're acting like a **** child, grow up. Besides, with the talk in another thread about a stolen concept, guess what, you stole this concept from a Thompson. Oh? What was that? Inspiration they call it.... sure.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I tried to make it ergonomic, the angle of the handle is identical to my air-soft gun hunting rifle, so it should work. it doesnt have a hole though, but a \___/ on top of it, or well u get my point.
And WTH are you talking about?
It was acid-snake who said that I were stealing stuff, not vice versa...
So flame at him, not at me, I just said that it aint stealing if you get ideas from someone elses concepts.
just wonder how you should shoot with this thingy when you got the buttstock at your shoulder? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Putting my hand in the position based on the size of the gun, yes, it would be extremely uncomfortable to hold. Because combined with the short stock, the badly placed thumb hole and the ridiculous angle of the grip, you've got to keep your hand in an extremely awkward position with your elbow stuck out really far and really tight. Horrible design if you ask me.
Also,you better pray that the bolt doesn't move at all, because if it does, that sucker's gonna take your eye out.
I mean sure, it looks ok, i guess, but aestetics kinda take a second place to common sense.
Also, all this talk of concept theft and the like. Meph, get over it. You posted them on a public forum and you should be <b>**** grateful</b> that someone would put out their own time to work on your concept. So what if you don't like that person? They obviously hold no grudge against you otherwise they wouldn't waste their time on your concept. You're acting like a **** child, grow up. Besides, with the talk in another thread about a stolen concept, guess what, you stole this concept from a Thompson. Oh? What was that? Inspiration they call it.... sure.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I tried to make it ergonomic, the angle of the handle is identical to my air-soft gun hunting rifle, so it should work. it doesnt have a hole though, but a \___/ on top of it, or well u get my point.
And WTH are you talking about?
It was acid-snake who said that I were stealing stuff, not vice versa...
So flame at him, not at me, I just said that it aint stealing if you get ideas from someone elses concepts. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, I wont let a guy that thinks rape, murder, pedophilia, woman abuse etc. is right, model my concept, that would make me look bad, and since Im against all of those things, then I wont support that person.
I dont want someone that doesnt deserve it get credits for something thats actually an idea of mine.
just wonder how you should shoot with this thingy when you got the buttstock at your shoulder <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Putting my hand in the position based on the size of the gun, yes, it would be extremely uncomfortable to hold. Because combined with the short stock, the badly placed thumb hole and the ridiculous angle of the grip, you've got to keep your hand in an extremely awkward position with your elbow stuck out really far and really tight. Horrible design if you ask me.
Also,you better pray that the bolt doesn't move at all, because if it does, that sucker's gonna take your eye out.
I mean sure, it looks ok, i guess, but aestetics kinda take a second place to common sense.
Also, all this talk of concept theft and the like. Meph, get over it. You posted them on a public forum and you should be <b>**** grateful</b> that someone would put out their own time to work on your concept. So what if you don't like that person? They obviously hold no grudge against you otherwise they wouldn't waste their time on your concept. You're acting like a **** child, grow up. Besides, with the talk in another thread about a stolen concept, guess what, you stole this concept from a Thompson. Oh? What was that? Inspiration they call it.... sure....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
thank u esuna you've but my thoughts across exactly
both towards the concept and the attitude of mephmage
FN representatives have released the following statement:
"They stoled our design elements!!!!1oneone"
Seriously, Meph and Snake, such whining in this thread. I should stomp both of you on the basis of "design elements", since you <i>obviously</i> ripped them off of me after making the same windowed magazines years ago.
This forum needs a :rolleyes: smiley. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
HAHA!
Funny Jeager...
A pict. rail is really a generic standard that just about ALL guns employ...i wouldn't say it's tha same thing...
i'm not whining, i'm simply pointing out facts, and expressing concern...there's a HUGE difference....
if you look at tha design he used (For the mag) though...Structure-wise, it's a dead copy of what i did...and may i point out yet again that he bashed that design element at tha time, yet he's using it now....hypocrisy, AND unoriginality...2 for 2 so far....
i haven't seen any of your designs...or at least i don't think i have...PM me an example?....
think of ppl stomping in concrete blocks, they keep there under arm and rest in a strait line
Mephame or whatever your real name is....
Your acting like you did any of these concepts out of your brain i tell u what... those guns and i mean every one you conceptet is a somehow copy of an existing gun, i allready said it in another thread that your copyright stuff is totally unprofessional waste. see you really should inform yourself about COPYRIGHTS. Cause at this moment you dont have any (not that you wouldnt have them if those guns where really NEW, but they arent new so you dont have those copyrights)..... ohh and before i forget to say it
This is a public forum anyone in here can use your concept and model it ..... if you dont want people to model your ideas well do it like me DONT post the stuff you dont want to be modelled by someone else easy as that ...
p.s. learn common manners ... learn to speak to people on a normal basis and a normal kind of human sense..
sometimes (or more often) u act like a child wich doesnt get what he wants and because of this starts to cry and get angry
btw esuna i love your posts 8)
p.p.s. i dont like any of your concepts (my opinion)
grow up
thk u very much
p.p.s this is no flame this is a fact.
no "it suck"... plz
haha, nice stealing mate!
Thats my concept, that you've modified ROUGHLY, same colours, same idea, same stuff.. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
... meph qoute ^
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<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> meph qoute... ^