A Remembrance To The Programmers Of Ns

Lt.RealnessLt.Realness Join Date: 2004-03-17 Member: 27379Members
<div class="IPBDescription">quest about lefty and female models</div> Well I asked the programmers by mail a couple of months ago, but nobody mailed me back.
I´d like to retell you my wishes here again!

1st. Lefthanded Weaponmodels : Well I know that there are some custom lefty weaponmodels around, but they are "just" overwrite files (and also just mirrored). And some of the regular NS Servers are saying for example "Can´t connect to server "Bad file v_welder.mdl , v_mg.mdl" etc. on connect. If your guys would fit that in the new NS version, you´d have my sympathy <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Yes I know you´d need an extra animation for that. For example the LMG has it´s magazine on the left side. So a lefthanded must change his LMG into the right arm, then pull out the mag. , put another mag. in and then change the LMG back into his left hand. Hopefully it´s possible to do that reload animation in the same time as a righthanded would do <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

2nd. Female Marines: Here are also some custom models around, but they are overwrite files 2...It really would be better if you´d put in a customize menu before you join the Marine team! Like it´s in Counter-Strike or Action Half-Life. I´ve 2 girls in my clan and they would be glad if something like this would really become true..
It would be really cool if you could choose your skin (your appeareance in Counter-Strike)

Yes I also know that you´d need female voice actors for that :/ but is that possible?

Hopefully I didn´t disturb you during your work on the next beta version. Carry on! You just released the best HL Modification ever!

Hopefully you´ll answer me soon and can give me statements about these 2 point. I don´t understand why you didn´t include that already <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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  • panda_de_malheureuxpanda_de_malheureux Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24775Members
    heh yes people have wanted both of these before, its just about time the devs start listening <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • surprisesurprise Join Date: 2003-01-16 Member: 12382Members, Constellation
    i think the modelling work would be far more difficult then the coding <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    well, im not completely sure about it
  • laggerlagger Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1805Members
    edited May 2004
    Question of priority really... do you want the devs putting in left handed models or fixing bugs and getting ready for the new BUS system? Personally, there are some other problems with ns_ and co_ that should be addressed before adding misc stuff like this.
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    these features will remain custom for the moment.. (i mirrored the lefty models, for a simmilar request, they are on readyroom.org if you need/want them)

    the dev team hasn't expressed *ANY* interest in officializing these customizations/requests...

    sorry.
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-lagger+May 1 2004, 11:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lagger @ May 1 2004, 11:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Question of priority really... do you want the devs putting in left handed models or fixing bugs and getting ready for the new BUS system? Personally, there are some other problems with ns_ and co_ that should be addressed before adding misc stuff like this. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Good point.
  • UKchaosUKchaos Join Date: 2002-08-10 Member: 1132Members
    Counter-strike uses code to mirror the models, should be possible for ns too.
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    Any links to these overwrite female models?
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited May 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Any links to these overwrite female models?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Don't forget to replace all the sayings... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Hologram0Hologram0 Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9303Members, Constellation
    Both would be cool, but purely cosmetic changes that arnt really important when comparted to gameplay... IMHO
  • WirheWirhe Join Date: 2003-06-22 Member: 17610Members
    edited May 2004
    Oh, god; just what we need: bunny-hopping female marines. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> Could you even call them "marines" after that -not "marinettes...?"

    Okay, fine; if there are female marinettes, I want female skulks, gorge, lerk, fade, and onos too. <span style='color:white'>Nuked for the sheer wrong-ness of the remark...</span>

    [Edit] LMAO. Too much for your imagination, Nemesis Zero? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> [/edit]
  • Lt.RealnessLt.Realness Join Date: 2004-03-17 Member: 27379Members
    edited May 2004
    Are you beeing facetious ? I´m serious! I don´t want any female aliens cuz aliens are always just male or just female... that doesn´t matter. But it would be better for the marines...
    My 2 girls are good players..and I guess there are much more out there..

    One day as I told her, why we shall need female marines in NS she answered shortly "How would you feel in a totally womens world?"....

    @Delarosa. I´ve installed that mirrored lefty weapons <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> they are great thx <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->)


    @lagger good point! I really wanna have that stuff fixed but then I´d like to have these 2 points included....I really want a NS programmer would read this topic!!!
  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    why not just play on servers that allow custom models? problem solved
  • AaronAaron vroom vroom der party startah Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7020Members
    For left handed model, you don't need to redo it all. Just make it a mirror image and say, oh well, they made the design reverse for left-handed people. It's not like the orientation of the LMG really matters at all to game play.

    I second female marine models.

    For aliens, I think it should just be the normal model, but say, with a pink bow on top. That would be nice.
  • olisisolisis Join Date: 2003-02-01 Member: 12944Members
    It would be nice to have female players mixed in with the white and black guys. Unless they had a voice change, you would have no idea you were playing a female anyway. I mean, do you know when you are playing a black guy or when you are playing a whitey? I don't.
    Left handed models that are not mirrored would really be cool. It would be awesome if you could even see that on the 3D model as well, but that is probably not going to happen. I'm all for stuff that enhances game experience without changing gameplay.
    As for the female aliens. I always thought that the Onos was female or was I the only one to notice the set of teets (8 teets I think) dangling down with a spike as a tip underneath the Onos. I mean, why would a male creature have so many teets?
  • rknZrknZ Join Date: 2003-10-23 Member: 21885Members
    Aliens dont have sexes, the hive give birth to them <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • WirheWirhe Join Date: 2003-06-22 Member: 17610Members
    Says who? Haven't you seen what onos carries under his belly? Boobs, three pairs of pointy looking boobs.

    <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo--> <----- Look closely <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • GunFodderGunFodder Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26572Members
    I have nipples Tails. Could you milk me? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ChurchChurch Meatshield grunt-fodder // Has pre-ordered NS2 Join Date: 2002-12-31 Member: 11646Members, Constellation
    Sorry, you don't have anything Tails want in exchange for milking your nipples. It's not like you're the father of his fiancee or anything...
  • Bob_the_AlienBob_the_Alien Join Date: 2002-01-30 Member: 135Members
    Ol' bob will tell ya. Back way back when they got rid of the abbility to have custom models because they made models a big part of balancing. Have you ever wondered why when you first started playing aliens skulk gave you a headache?

    Anyways, people kept finding ways to get rid of the skulk teeth (r_drawviewmodel 0 I think and custom models) And I don't think Flayra liked the idea of people doing it. I also remember the LMG had a rediculous muzzle flash people scripted or modeled to get awy from. Everyone argued that it would kill the modding community, and that the reason CS was so popular was because of modding.

    Personally, I don't think that skulk teeth really disorentate anyone anymore. And I can't be the only one who wouldn't mind some player made models right now, though the new GL is very nice looking.
  • snozzlesnozzle Join Date: 2003-04-23 Member: 15788Members
    send Flayra a picture of Aelva... that should be some incentive to get him to make female models <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> (she should be a model btw... or THE model for the ns marines <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
  • Lt.RealnessLt.Realness Join Date: 2004-03-17 Member: 27379Members
    can you guys stop bullying me <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I JUST WANT TO HAVE A CHOOSE SYS WERE YOU COULD CHOOSE YOUR SKIN AND A ANIMATED LEFTHANDED WEAPONMODEL!!

    stop flooding with your female alien ****...thx
  • 7Bistromath7Bistromath Join Date: 2003-12-04 Member: 23928Members, Constellation
    Re: the issue of lefty-models having to switch hands to reload.

    Considering they're already making them now, you'd really think the weapons of the far future would be ambidextrous... <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SalvationSalvation Join Date: 2003-11-21 Member: 23300Members
    edited May 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-lagger+May 1 2004, 05:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lagger @ May 1 2004, 05:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Question of priority really... do you want the devs putting in left handed models or fixing bugs and getting ready for the new BUS system?  Personally, there are some other problems with ns_ and co_ that should be addressed before adding misc stuff like this. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    and this stuff comes first, and you should want it first ^_^

    but another problem, you might hear a girls voice, and auto start to block her, so your not annoyed...


    replexes only of course <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • thedraftthedraft Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2919Members
    As far as "cosmetic" enhancements go, I'd much rather see third person reloads before left handed models or female marines.
  • DecimatorDecimator Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8057Members
    Maybe a voice changer could be coded in to make you sound like the gender you're playing as. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • 7Bistromath7Bistromath Join Date: 2003-12-04 Member: 23928Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Decimator+May 1 2004, 06:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Decimator @ May 1 2004, 06:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Maybe a voice changer could be coded in to make you sound like the gender you're playing as. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ugh. No. Can you imagine what that would sound like with all the twelve-year-olds running around? I don't wanna play NS with chipmunks.
  • panda_de_malheureuxpanda_de_malheureux Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24775Members
    LOL the little's would all sound the same anyway, they are all high pitched.
  • YumosisYumosis Join Date: 2003-01-12 Member: 12222Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-snozzle+May 1 2004, 02:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (snozzle @ May 1 2004, 02:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->send Flayra a picture of Aelva... that should be some incentive to get him to make female models <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->  (she should be a model btw... or THE model for the ns marines <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Waaaayyy too pale and fair skinned to be a marine lol.
  • Lt.RealnessLt.Realness Join Date: 2004-03-17 Member: 27379Members
    are there any news about it ? *still waiting*
  • EvenFlowEvenFlow Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11046Members
    Having female marines would change everyone's outlook towards humping the armory, maybe it won't be frowned upon as much as it is now.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->are there any news about it ? *still waiting*<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the dev team hasn't expressed *ANY* interest in officializing these customizations/requests...

    sorry.
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