<!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+May 5 2004, 08:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ May 5 2004, 08:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 7 is the one with the black fella with a gun for an arm right? If so, the last battle with Seriproth was insane. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What're you talking about? The last boss was a pansy! I beat him with a part of level 30 characters and a party of level 80 characters. And I was expecting a fight! Ultima Weapon was harder than him, and the weapon wasn't even that hard.
<!--QuoteBegin-ZiGGY^+May 6 2004, 11:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZiGGY^ @ May 6 2004, 11:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ffx international is the best by far from a hardcore pov, vii is the most annoying to stat max (a man can only morph so many times before losing his mind)
And crono trigger is weak compared to secret of mana im afraid <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> awww c'mon. FF7 was spectacular. i didn't even finish it, i watched my brother. I never got past disk1!... i think.
And even though i love SOM to death, i would... well, i have to say that CT is better. SOM is one of the few few rpgs i've finished. (SOM, Secret of Evermore, and CT are the only ones)
<!--QuoteBegin-ZiGGY^+May 6 2004, 05:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZiGGY^ @ May 6 2004, 05:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And crono trigger is weak compared to secret of mana im afraid <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> SoM has somerwhat of a cult following in Germany as it was one of the first Square RPGs to be released over here, so I'm not exactely immune to its charm either, but comparing it to CT... Nah. Not by any stretch of imagination: <ul><li><b>The characters:</b> Nobody doubts that the SoM chars were loveable, but they were also pretty dam clich? - anyone ever wondered why 'The Boy' and The Girl' is usually considered sufficient to characterize two thirds of the party? Chrono Trigger on the other hand - the coolest 'silent hero' besides Link, a knight-turned frog, an amnesic robot, a scythe-wielding dark wizard, a prehistoric village chief... Do I need to go on?</li><li><b>Combat:</b> CT offers a turn based combat system that's fully integrated into the normal gameflow (which I still think should've been adopted by the FFs), was the first RPG I knew of to make significant use of a combo system, and required both timing and tactics to reach success. SoM - Press B button, wait, release B button. Select magic, cast spell. Press B button again, wait... You get the picture.</li><li><b>The story:</b> No SoM-related game ever sported a plot even remotely comparable to the complex and intricate story arc of CT. This is little of an accusation - CT is built around its plot, SoMs story serves as backdrop for wacky dialogues and colorfull battles. Which brings us to...</li><li><b>The presentation:</b> SoM looks nice and all, but for all my hate towards Dragon Ball, CT proves that Toriyama knows how to draw. CTs score is outstanding while SoM offers generic, although not bad, tunes.</li><li><b>Secrets:</b> SoM: 'Find the Ruby Diadem'. CT: Get a dozen special items, resolve the personal stories of all characters, get special spells, play the game through to all different endings... Do I need to go on?</li></ul> Again, Secret of Mana was fun and all, but it just plays in a different league than CT.
People still dont believe that I beat FF7 in 18 hours. Now I dont have this much tolerenace to play 18 hours straight, might have taken a week but at a few hours at a time <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Has anyone else beaten this game that fast before?
I remember, the first time I played the game it took me like 5 or 6 hours to get out of Midgar (in fact, the very first time I played, I stopped playing, because I couldn't get past when the upper plate fell - it wouldn't let me out of one of the little pits outside the slum village (there's a board you have to walk on).
Then I played it again, I was done in about 40 minutes. The first disc only took about 5 hours or so (disc 2 can be really short if you just try to beat the game quick). I've forgotten pretty much all of the weird puzzle things now, though, so now I could probably get out of the Shinra building quick, but it'd take me a bit to remember where exactly to go.
Plus, the magic sucks until you get to...that one city outside Midgar (Kolm?...I forget, you can buy new materia there). Especially E-skill, if you can survive the Midgar Zolom (Beta, within first 3 hours > anything else around <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ). Hard to kill it around those low levels though.
My cousin didn't get how to use chocobos, so he had to get past the part by fighting the Zolom 3 or 4 times, heh.
Hah that reminds me a long time ago Gecko. I ran across the marshes and actually made it to the other side. I call it luck since the Midgar Zolom was like a millimeter away just when I hit the grassy past near the mountain.
Funny I havent touched the game seriously in a few months now. Now when I mean havent touched it, its been like a yr since I have played more than an hr of the game. Yet I still remember everything, I find it odd. So when I know that boss is around the corner im like. "Level 15 hmm okay time to jump atleast 10 more"
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<!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+May 6 2004, 12:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ May 6 2004, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+May 5 2004, 08:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ May 5 2004, 08:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 7 is the one with the black fella with a gun for an arm right? If so, the last battle with Seriproth was insane. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> What're you talking about? The last boss was a pansy! I beat him with a part of level 30 characters and a party of level 80 characters. And I was expecting a fight! Ultima Weapon was harder than him, and the weapon wasn't even that hard. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Insane as in, "ooo, lookit that!", not as in, "I am in physical pain from this". What was the boss where you fight underwater? I never finished that, i remember it was incredibly hard.
<!--QuoteBegin-keep it *G*angsta+May 6 2004, 08:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (keep it *G*angsta @ May 6 2004, 08:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Final Fantasy 7 is and always will be the best game ever made. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Chrono trigger is the best *pure* RPG of all time.
<!--QuoteBegin-DarkATi+May 5 2004, 04:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkATi @ May 5 2004, 04:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Squall. Owns. Cloud. Any. Day. Beotches. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I dont get how people think FF7/8/10's main character is badass. I mean, Terra (FF6) is a sword-wielding, magic-mech driving, 1/2 esper (magical creature) chick. Think about it...its like 3 layers of kickass!
I might be old fashion, but the CT-SoM-FF6 combo on SNES is Squaresoft's greatest achievement.
<!--QuoteBegin-Umbraed Monkey+May 6 2004, 03:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Umbraed Monkey @ May 6 2004, 03:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DarkATi+May 5 2004, 04:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkATi @ May 5 2004, 04:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Squall. Owns. Cloud. Any. Day. Beotches. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I dont get how people think FF7/8/10's main character is badass. I mean, Terra (FF6) is a sword-wielding, magic-mech driving, 1/2 esper (magical creature) chick. Think about it...its like 3 layers of kickass!
I might be old fashion, but the CT-SoM-FF6 combo on SNES is Squaresoft's greatest achievement. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> AMEN, Brother. Testify! Terra was the single greatest character in the FF series. No to mention FF6 was the greatest and had the greatest villian. Think about it. Sephiroth: angsty, momma's boy who tries to destroy the world. Kefka: insane clown who succeeds in destroying most of the world and is so pure evil that you can't help but love to hate him.
But, now for me to speak blasphemy. CT and FF6 are close seconds, but the greatest RPG of all time still has to be Xenogears. That game kept me guessing and glued to my seat for over 70 hours.
<!--QuoteBegin-Arcadius+May 6 2004, 03:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Arcadius @ May 6 2004, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Umbraed Monkey+May 6 2004, 03:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Umbraed Monkey @ May 6 2004, 03:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DarkATi+May 5 2004, 04:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkATi @ May 5 2004, 04:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Squall. Owns. Cloud. Any. Day. Beotches. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I dont get how people think FF7/8/10's main character is badass. I mean, Terra (FF6) is a sword-wielding, magic-mech driving, 1/2 esper (magical creature) chick. Think about it...its like 3 layers of kickass!
I might be old fashion, but the CT-SoM-FF6 combo on SNES is Squaresoft's greatest achievement. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> AMEN, Brother. Testify! Terra was the single greatest character in the FF series. No to mention FF6 was the greatest and had the greatest villian. Think about it. Sephiroth: angsty, momma's boy who tries to destroy the world. Kefka: insane clown who succeeds in destroying most of the world and is so pure evil that you can't help but love to hate him.
But, now for me to speak blasphemy. CT and FF6 are close seconds, but the greatest RPG of all time still has to be Xenogears. That game kept me guessing and glued to my seat for over 70 hours. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Never got passed the temple of babel. Jumping puzzles in RPG = get out of my Playstation.
It was kindof fun before that, but after falling really far in the tower Xenogears gets the X. Final Fantasy 7 or maybe Breath of Fire 3 (although, the end of that is extremely tedious, and I haven't gotten around to beating it past Myria Station) still win for me.
FFT is good too (never got around to that one either, because the computer gets to be cheap...and I can't just throw my army of 20 people into the fray <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->. Still don't really consider it an RPG.
<!--QuoteBegin-Jimmeh+May 6 2004, 03:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh @ May 6 2004, 03:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-keep it *G*angsta+May 6 2004, 08:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (keep it *G*angsta @ May 6 2004, 08:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Final Fantasy 7 is and always will be the best game ever made. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Chrono trigger is the best *pure* RPG of all time.
Deus Ex is the best game of all time. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No, Dungeons and Dragons is!
I remember when I was a (younger) kid it took me weeks to complete Zelda: A Link To The Past (not sure, the SNES one anyhoo) lol, then I replayed it a few years ago and it took me less than a weekend :/
<!--QuoteBegin-Umbraed Monkey+May 6 2004, 02:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Umbraed Monkey @ May 6 2004, 02:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DarkATi+May 5 2004, 04:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkATi @ May 5 2004, 04:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Squall. Owns. Cloud. Any. Day. Beotches. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I dont get how people think FF7/8/10's main character is badass. I mean, Terra (FF6) is a sword-wielding, magic-mech driving, 1/2 esper (magical creature) chick. Think about it...its like 3 layers of kickass!
I might be old fashion, but the CT-SoM-FF6 combo on SNES is Squaresoft's greatest achievement. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> But her hair is green.
...GREEN!
Really, it is ugly hair. Why not purple? Or orange, or even blue? Green hair? Bah. Sephiroth has the cool white/silver hair, that's why he wins. Although, she does get Ultima, and you never see Sephiroth (Solar Flare...heh <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> )cast it, although Cloud - aside from being weak and complains a lot - casts it, so he's cool too.
Garr from Breath of Fire 3 wins the cool character contest...He's a giant...horned...lizard thing - with fire! You just can't beat that.
<!--QuoteBegin-UltimaGecko+May 6 2004, 09:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UltimaGecko @ May 6 2004, 09:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Umbraed Monkey+May 6 2004, 02:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Umbraed Monkey @ May 6 2004, 02:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DarkATi+May 5 2004, 04:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkATi @ May 5 2004, 04:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Squall. Owns. Cloud. Any. Day. Beotches. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I dont get how people think FF7/8/10's main character is badass. I mean, Terra (FF6) is a sword-wielding, magic-mech driving, 1/2 esper (magical creature) chick. Think about it...its like 3 layers of kickass!
I might be old fashion, but the CT-SoM-FF6 combo on SNES is Squaresoft's greatest achievement. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> But her hair is green.
...GREEN!
Really, it is ugly hair. Why not purple? Or orange, or even blue? Green hair? Bah. Sephiroth has the cool white/silver hair, that's why he wins. Although, she does get Ultima, and you never see Sephiroth (Solar Flare...heh <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> )cast it, although Cloud - aside from being weak and complains a lot - casts it, so he's cool too.
Garr from Breath of Fire 3 wins the cool character contest...He's a giant...horned...lizard thing - with fire! You just can't beat that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Its actually blonde in the concept arts/CGI. Also, when she morphs, she turns ALL white/silvery....and nekkid! <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Best (any) char in the whole series has got to be gogo. Good battle in FF5, master of all trades in FF6, (someone vouch for me for FF9), and general WTH-ness wins him the crown.
<!--QuoteBegin-Jimmeh+May 6 2004, 08:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh @ May 6 2004, 08:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-keep it *G*angsta+May 6 2004, 08:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (keep it *G*angsta @ May 6 2004, 08:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Final Fantasy 7 is and always will be the best game ever made. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Chrono trigger is the best *pure* RPG of all time.
Deus Ex is the best game of all time. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Listen to this man! I could not agree more. About the Deus Ex thing, I'm tied between Crono Trigger and FF VII. :]
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<!--QuoteBegin-Jimmeh+May 6 2004, 12:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh @ May 6 2004, 12:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-keep it *G*angsta+May 6 2004, 08:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (keep it *G*angsta @ May 6 2004, 08:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Final Fantasy 7 is and always will be the best game ever made. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Chrono trigger is the best *pure* RPG of all time.
Deus Ex is the best game of all time.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> What the hell? DX is way more "pure" than CT. No matter what your definition of an rpg is (except maybe "number crunching level treadmill"). I'm not saying that CT is a bad game or anything, but in addition to being a better game, DX is more rpg than CT could ever hope to be.
<!--QuoteBegin-Pulse+May 7 2004, 05:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ May 7 2004, 05:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> DX is more rpg than CT could ever hope to be. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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What're you talking about? The last boss was a pansy! I beat him with a part of level 30 characters and a party of level 80 characters. And I was expecting a fight! Ultima Weapon was harder than him, and the weapon wasn't even that hard.
And crono trigger is weak compared to secret of mana im afraid <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
awww c'mon. FF7 was spectacular. i didn't even finish it, i watched my brother. I never got past disk1!... i think.
And even though i love SOM to death, i would... well, i have to say that CT is better. SOM is one of the few few rpgs i've finished. (SOM, Secret of Evermore, and CT are the only ones)
SoM has somerwhat of a cult following in Germany as it was one of the first Square RPGs to be released over here, so I'm not exactely immune to its charm either, but comparing it to CT... Nah. Not by any stretch of imagination:
<ul><li><b>The characters:</b> Nobody doubts that the SoM chars were loveable, but they were also pretty dam clich? - anyone ever wondered why 'The Boy' and The Girl' is usually considered sufficient to characterize two thirds of the party? Chrono Trigger on the other hand - the coolest 'silent hero' besides Link, a knight-turned frog, an amnesic robot, a scythe-wielding dark wizard, a prehistoric village chief... Do I need to go on?</li><li><b>Combat:</b> CT offers a turn based combat system that's fully integrated into the normal gameflow (which I still think should've been adopted by the FFs), was the first RPG I knew of to make significant use of a combo system, and required both timing and tactics to reach success. SoM - Press B button, wait, release B button. Select magic, cast spell. Press B button again, wait... You get the picture.</li><li><b>The story:</b> No SoM-related game ever sported a plot even remotely comparable to the complex and intricate story arc of CT. This is little of an accusation - CT is built around its plot, SoMs story serves as backdrop for wacky dialogues and colorfull battles. Which brings us to...</li><li><b>The presentation:</b> SoM looks nice and all, but for all my hate towards Dragon Ball, CT proves that Toriyama knows how to draw. CTs score is outstanding while SoM offers generic, although not bad, tunes.</li><li><b>Secrets:</b> SoM: 'Find the Ruby Diadem'. CT: Get a dozen special items, resolve the personal stories of all characters, get special spells, play the game through to all different endings... Do I need to go on?</li></ul>
Again, Secret of Mana was fun and all, but it just plays in a different league than CT.
Has anyone else beaten this game that fast before?
Then I played it again, I was done in about 40 minutes. The first disc only took about 5 hours or so (disc 2 can be really short if you just try to beat the game quick). I've forgotten pretty much all of the weird puzzle things now, though, so now I could probably get out of the Shinra building quick, but it'd take me a bit to remember where exactly to go.
Plus, the magic sucks until you get to...that one city outside Midgar (Kolm?...I forget, you can buy new materia there). Especially E-skill, if you can survive the Midgar Zolom (Beta, within first 3 hours > anything else around <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ). Hard to kill it around those low levels though.
My cousin didn't get how to use chocobos, so he had to get past the part by fighting the Zolom 3 or 4 times, heh.
Funny I havent touched the game seriously in a few months now. Now when I mean havent touched it, its been like a yr since I have played more than an hr of the game. Yet I still remember everything, I find it odd. So when I know that boss is around the corner im like. "Level 15 hmm okay time to jump atleast 10 more"
Such great memories playing that game.
What're you talking about? The last boss was a pansy! I beat him with a part of level 30 characters and a party of level 80 characters. And I was expecting a fight! Ultima Weapon was harder than him, and the weapon wasn't even that hard. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Insane as in, "ooo, lookit that!", not as in, "I am in physical pain from this". What was the boss where you fight underwater? I never finished that, i remember it was incredibly hard.
Chrono trigger is the best *pure* RPG of all time.
Deus Ex is the best game of all time.
I dont get how people think FF7/8/10's main character is badass. I mean, Terra (FF6) is a sword-wielding, magic-mech driving, 1/2 esper (magical creature) chick. Think about it...its like 3 layers of kickass!
I might be old fashion, but the CT-SoM-FF6 combo on SNES is Squaresoft's greatest achievement.
I dont get how people think FF7/8/10's main character is badass. I mean, Terra (FF6) is a sword-wielding, magic-mech driving, 1/2 esper (magical creature) chick. Think about it...its like 3 layers of kickass!
I might be old fashion, but the CT-SoM-FF6 combo on SNES is Squaresoft's greatest achievement. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
AMEN, Brother. Testify! Terra was the single greatest character in the FF series. No to mention FF6 was the greatest and had the greatest villian. Think about it. Sephiroth: angsty, momma's boy who tries to destroy the world. Kefka: insane clown who succeeds in destroying most of the world and is so pure evil that you can't help but love to hate him.
But, now for me to speak blasphemy. CT and FF6 are close seconds, but the greatest RPG of all time still has to be Xenogears. That game kept me guessing and glued to my seat for over 70 hours.
I dont get how people think FF7/8/10's main character is badass. I mean, Terra (FF6) is a sword-wielding, magic-mech driving, 1/2 esper (magical creature) chick. Think about it...its like 3 layers of kickass!
I might be old fashion, but the CT-SoM-FF6 combo on SNES is Squaresoft's greatest achievement. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
AMEN, Brother. Testify! Terra was the single greatest character in the FF series. No to mention FF6 was the greatest and had the greatest villian. Think about it. Sephiroth: angsty, momma's boy who tries to destroy the world. Kefka: insane clown who succeeds in destroying most of the world and is so pure evil that you can't help but love to hate him.
But, now for me to speak blasphemy. CT and FF6 are close seconds, but the greatest RPG of all time still has to be Xenogears. That game kept me guessing and glued to my seat for over 70 hours. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Never got passed the temple of babel. Jumping puzzles in RPG = get out of my Playstation.
It was kindof fun before that, but after falling really far in the tower Xenogears gets the X. Final Fantasy 7 or maybe Breath of Fire 3 (although, the end of that is extremely tedious, and I haven't gotten around to beating it past Myria Station) still win for me.
FFT is good too (never got around to that one either, because the computer gets to be cheap...and I can't just throw my army of 20 people into the fray <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->. Still don't really consider it an RPG.
Chrono trigger is the best *pure* RPG of all time.
Deus Ex is the best game of all time. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, Dungeons and Dragons is!
I dont get how people think FF7/8/10's main character is badass. I mean, Terra (FF6) is a sword-wielding, magic-mech driving, 1/2 esper (magical creature) chick. Think about it...its like 3 layers of kickass!
I might be old fashion, but the CT-SoM-FF6 combo on SNES is Squaresoft's greatest achievement. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
But her hair is green.
...GREEN!
Really, it is ugly hair. Why not purple? Or orange, or even blue?
Green hair? Bah. Sephiroth has the cool white/silver hair, that's why he wins. Although, she does get Ultima, and you never see Sephiroth (Solar Flare...heh <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> )cast it, although Cloud - aside from being weak and complains a lot - casts it, so he's cool too.
Garr from Breath of Fire 3 wins the cool character contest...He's a giant...horned...lizard thing - with fire! You just can't beat that.
Now is that cool or what?
I dont get how people think FF7/8/10's main character is badass. I mean, Terra (FF6) is a sword-wielding, magic-mech driving, 1/2 esper (magical creature) chick. Think about it...its like 3 layers of kickass!
I might be old fashion, but the CT-SoM-FF6 combo on SNES is Squaresoft's greatest achievement. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But her hair is green.
...GREEN!
Really, it is ugly hair. Why not purple? Or orange, or even blue?
Green hair? Bah. Sephiroth has the cool white/silver hair, that's why he wins. Although, she does get Ultima, and you never see Sephiroth (Solar Flare...heh <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> )cast it, although Cloud - aside from being weak and complains a lot - casts it, so he's cool too.
Garr from Breath of Fire 3 wins the cool character contest...He's a giant...horned...lizard thing - with fire! You just can't beat that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its actually blonde in the concept arts/CGI. Also, when she morphs, she turns ALL white/silvery....and nekkid! <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Best (any) char in the whole series has got to be gogo. Good battle in FF5, master of all trades in FF6, (someone vouch for me for FF9), and general WTH-ness wins him the crown.
Chrono trigger is the best *pure* RPG of all time.
Deus Ex is the best game of all time. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Listen to this man! I could not agree more. About the Deus Ex thing, I'm tied between Crono Trigger and FF VII. :]
Chrono trigger is the best *pure* RPG of all time.
Deus Ex is the best game of all time.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What the hell? DX is way more "pure" than CT. No matter what your definition of an rpg is (except maybe "number crunching level treadmill"). I'm not saying that CT is a bad game or anything, but in addition to being a better game, DX is more rpg than CT could ever hope to be.
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