[mcon]very Early Drum Clip Lmg

abbacadabbra · May 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">ideas, comments, suggestions.</div> heres my first crack at a weapon concept. i want to make some variations (like different handels, scopes, clips ect.) but i want to know if its even worth while. is anyone interisted in modeling it??? oh and this is free for anyone to expand on it.

well tell me what you think...

Chrono · May 2004

i like the basic design <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

Acid_Snake · May 2004

That's pretty wild...very minimal...not bad for your first..

Drfuzzy · May 2004

Hey i like it, no pointless addons to it and simple, yet very sexy <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

UESCdurandal · May 2004

nice 1 , reminds me of a rifle of Marathon Infinity which was able to shot under water, dont know the name

Zante · May 2004

Looks übersexeh! I like the compact design of it, but maybe the CLIP(clip, clip, clip, clip, clip, I could do this until the end of time) is a bit fat? With a stock, and a little more bulk,it would go for HMG. This has to be modeled. *looks at Chrono* :P

/edit: Now that I look at it, I see a stock there. :P

DreamScar · May 2004

[rant]
IT'S A FRIGGEN MAGAZINE!!!! STOP SAYING CLIP!!! IT'S NOT A CLIP! CLIPS OPERATE WITH THE AID OF GRAVITY LIKE A GARAND!!!
[/rant]

i feel better now...

I like the design. Looks like a heavily modified Tompson base, which means dependability. Good job...

[edit]

holy f00k, how'd I manage 77 posts already??? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' />

Ninja_Burrito1 · May 2004

actualy, a clip is what holds the bullets into the magazine but....
very nice

Chrono u better model this!

Chrono · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ninja Burrito @ May 3 2004, 05:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> actualy, a clip is what holds the bullets into the magazine but....
very nice

Chrono u better model this!  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
o noes the spammer has arived <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> to model it i need nice clean pictures high resoultion preferable top veiew and front view if you want it to look right and a perspective view would greatly help

douchebagatron · May 2004

*glances at DS*

hey thats a neat lookin clip

DreamScar · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ninja Burrito @ May 3 2004, 05:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> actualy, a clip is what holds the bullets into the magazine but....
very nice

Chrono u better model this! </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
that's what I was talking about. These people were referring to the drum as a clip, instead of a magazine. Real "clip-fed" guns are those in which the magazine is part of the weapon, and where it is the "clip" that is "reloaded" each time, such as an M1 Garand.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (6john6doe6)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>*glances at DS*

hey thats a neat lookin clip
</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

*brain explodes*

abbacadabbra · May 2004

THANK YOU FOR THE RESOPONSES!!!

I am definitely motivated to finish this project now...

but should i keep the design simple or add detail to it (i always feel my gun drawings lack detail.), also what do you guys think about the grip on the barrel, should i draw some other grips???

and about dream scars remark about this looking like a modified thompson, that is so true if fact i've been looking at thompsons online...

heres a pic of the drum magazine:
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>http://www.auto-ordnance.com/ao_1927mag.html</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

and heres technical info on the thompson:
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>http://www.nfatoys.com/tsmg/web/tsmgdata.htm</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

I think these dimensions could help in the creation of the model...

also here is another page of preliminary drawings. notice the alternate stock?
above the profile view... i thought i'd tinker with a little more traditional stock but keep the old one for comparsion. oh and sorry the pic looks dirty... **** eraser!!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

next post will be with the following pics:
- views of the grip(with place holder stock, this is the only thing im sure is final right now)
-multiple views of the grip on the barrel(these are really hard to draw cause its hard to get the angle right)
-various other detail views

umm is there anything you guys want or need in terms of views for the next set of drawings???

frostymoose · May 2004

stock is a bit short.

Chrono · May 2004

bigger and when your done drawing it can you pen it in nice and dark?
by bigger i mean higher resolution

BAshh · May 2004

wow that's really nice. i hope someone models it for you.

napi · May 2004

looks like chrono is lining up to do it. am looking forward to this one

Fox_One · May 2004

That stock looks a bit uncomfortable. Most fixed shoulder stocks have a curve to 'em to fit better against the shoulder and reduce pressure points. Folding or retractable stocks can get away with a flat butt because they need to be shaped to fit against the gun. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' />

abbacadabbra · May 2004

well folks i made a final version of the gun again feel free to take this idea and change it, mutate it, and generally just go wild with it!!!

i didnt ink this cause i was afraid i'd lose detail and i didnt want it to look messy <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> (lol it's already pretty dirty!!!)

the clip release which looks like the safety is actually the mag release and i think it should be on the other side(so the mag can easly be released my the thumb), but i put it there so it could be seen.

oh i also wanted to see this with a rifle stock mabe if this gets modeled we could get a version with a high tech looking rifle grip. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

and another thing people might want to change is the barrel grip... it was designed for use in tight spaces but some might like the hands spaced a little farther apart.

oh yeah and finally what should it be called?!?!?!

Chrono · May 2004

thank you for the nice straight lines <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

abbacadabbra · May 2004

np cant wait to see this in 3d!!!

Fox_One · May 2004

A name, you ask? What else? The p\/\/nz1n4t0r!!1

TheUdderOne · May 2004

10 minute quick knock up:

<img src='http://buyitem.net/~tweek/jimmeh/uploads/img409eb75c1162f.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

I realise chrono has been setup do to this...but i was bored...it was this or progam a fruit machine...

Thief · May 2004

for some odd reason someone posting a link to a very obscure gun in IRC today that reminded me of this <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

<a href='http://securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2800/2874.htm' target='_blank'>http://securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2800/2874.htm</a>

abbacadabbra · May 2004

oh damn im creamin my self nice model!!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

i noticed you used the original stock grreat stuff!!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

abbacadabbra · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Revolver @ May 9 2004, 05:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> A name, you ask? What else? The p\/\/nz1n4t0r!!1  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
i think we have a name <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

introducing the p\/\/nz1n4t0r 3000!!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Chrono · May 2004

can some one darken the image for me? its hard to work with a pure white backround

abbacadabbra · May 2004

like this???

if need be i can darken it even more...

DreamScar · May 2004

maybe one of the MS paint conceptors could throw a high-res paint concept together, to make it easier for modeling. Did you try asking one of those guys to do it?

silverfalcon · May 2004

that gun is actually quite well made, except for a few problems, the only major thing im concerned about is how scinny the drum is.... what is it shooting bb's???

<>silver falcon

UESCdurandal · May 2004

I finally remember the name of the cutie, it was the flechette. I called it "elephant killer", cause the bullets of this beauty were big as shot gun ammo. it was a damn hell of gun, nothing could stop her! Here a pig, ähm make that pic <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />
<img src='http://www.westernappliance.com/ccn/art/marathon/new/smg.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Here in the Hands of the brave Bob.
<img src='http://www.westernappliance.com/ccn/art/marathon/new/player-smg.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

the serial name of this gun was "KKV-7 SMG"

Fox_One · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (silverfalcon @ May 10 2004, 06:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>that gun is actually quite well made, except for a few problems, the only major thing im concerned about is how scinny the drum is.... what is it shooting bb's???

<>silver falcon</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>It could easily hold 50 5.7x28mm rounds, which would make sense considering the amount of damage the LMG deals. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

[mcon]very Early Drum Clip Lmg

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