Trying To Compile Small Lan Maps.
Uh-Oh
Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6917Members
Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6917Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Compile errors make me sad.</div> I'm trying to compile my first map, but I get errors of the likes:
<span style='color:purple'>Error: Entity 0, Brush 1421: outside world(+/-4096): (-10281,-2270,-416)-(-1448,4400,10294)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 1420: outside world(+/-4096): (-10297,-2318,-416)-(-1448,4363,10305)</span>
I have about 100 of these errors.
Okay, lets see how I can help myself:
Taken from Zoner's compile errors:
<span style='color:red'>The first is an damaged brush...If any of the coordinates are -9000 or 9000, then the brush is damaged...</span>
So, no +-9000 coordinates, means no damage.
<span style='color:red'>The second most common case is actually having a brush near or outside the edge of the allowable region for the world</span>
Okay, so I moved my brushes around (they were kinda close to the edge). Now there is at least 256 units between my brushes and the void.
Same errors.
Help?
<span style='color:purple'>Error: Entity 0, Brush 1421: outside world(+/-4096): (-10281,-2270,-416)-(-1448,4400,10294)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 1420: outside world(+/-4096): (-10297,-2318,-416)-(-1448,4363,10305)</span>
I have about 100 of these errors.
Okay, lets see how I can help myself:
Taken from Zoner's compile errors:
<span style='color:red'>The first is an damaged brush...If any of the coordinates are -9000 or 9000, then the brush is damaged...</span>
So, no +-9000 coordinates, means no damage.
<span style='color:red'>The second most common case is actually having a brush near or outside the edge of the allowable region for the world</span>
Okay, so I moved my brushes around (they were kinda close to the edge). Now there is at least 256 units between my brushes and the void.
Same errors.
Help?
Comments
search for "invalid solid structures" in Hammer.
here some class 11 geometry explaining whats invalid for the editor:
- Each brush must be convex (like a "D" ) and can not be concave (like a "P") so that no faces could see each other because all faces look away from the center of the brush.
<img src='http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/images/userImages/misc/education/convex-concave.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
- one face with more than 3 sides must be komplanar (=in the same plane / flat) and not be curved. Then its undetermined if that face is convex or concave.
- two diferent faces can not be complanar, you must turn them into one face (like two triangles into one flat square).
- there are various other possible errors that happen during vertex manipulation. Hammer is stone age and sometimes faces flip or dissapear completely without any sense.
whenever a brush / solid structure is invalid its corner points get moved randomly untill it becomes a valid brush. This causes leaks and brushes of infinite (or too big) size, that reach outside the editors space of [ -4000 to +4000 ].
Here is an exemple.
P.S. Thanks for the prompt reply.
I just noticed, when I move around in the 3d textured viewport, my brush's texture are all messy. Like when 2 brushes are overlapping... I'm thinking hammer "broke" my brushes when I used the vertex manipulation tool?
~ DarkATi
none of these
nm just read your second read quote <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The second most common case is actually having a brush near or outside the edge of the allowable region for the world
Okay, so I moved my brushes around (they were kinda close to the edge). Now there is at least 256 units between my brushes and the void.
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In QuArK you can't create illegal brushes so as a QuArK user I don't have much experience with finding them but I do know two methods that can help:
First, export the file in .map format and load that .map file up in WC/VHE again. Brushes that are way distorted are the illegal ones and should be deleted (perhaps alt+p can now find them automatically).
If that doesn't work, you can allways download and install <a href='http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/quark/quark-win32-6.4.0alpha3.exe?download' target='_blank'>QuArK</a>. Open the .map file exported in WC/VHE and any illegal brushes will automatically be detected. Make sure they are deleted and export as a .map file in QuArK for WC/VHE to load.
Note that there are many more types of illegal brushes then just concave ones, such as non-flat faces and multiple vertices on the same location. Whenever using vertex manipulation be <u>very</u> sure you know what you're doing.
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Ok, I had an error exactly like this. Same error, but nothing in alt+p. What I did was I went to Map > Go To Brush Number, entered the number given to me by the compiler and pressed OK. I deleted that brush and it worked. Try that.
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Ok, I had an error exactly like this. Same error, but nothing in alt+p. What I did was I went to Map > Go To Brush Number, entered the number given to me by the compiler and pressed OK. I deleted that brush and it worked. Try that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like it says in the Stickied Topic above. Meh poor guide gets no use... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55406' target='_blank'>Common Errors & Problems w/ Solutions Thread</a>
~ DarkATi
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Ok, I had an error exactly like this. Same error, but nothing in alt+p. What I did was I went to Map > Go To Brush Number, entered the number given to me by the compiler and pressed OK. I deleted that brush and it worked. Try that. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like it says in the Stickied Topic above. Meh poor guide gets no use... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55406' target='_blank'>Common Errors & Problems w/ Solutions Thread</a>
~ DarkATi <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol, yeah <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Ok, I had an error exactly like this. Same error, but nothing in alt+p. What I did was I went to Map > Go To Brush Number, entered the number given to me by the compiler and pressed OK. I deleted that brush and it worked. Try that. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like it says in the Stickied Topic above. Meh poor guide gets no use... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55406' target='_blank'>Common Errors & Problems w/ Solutions Thread</a>
~ DarkATi <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol, yeah <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh think it's funny do you!?!?!111
LOL, j/k
~ DarkATi
DarkATi, there's a format to allow hyperlinks within your forum posts, as used in the Mapping forum FAQ:
<!--QuoteBegin-XP-Cagey+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XP-Cagey)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Quick note: for those of you making long resource posts for others to use, I added a tag to IPB when I made the new FAQ that allows you to jump to any spot in a post with a mouse click.
To make a link target in your post, use the [anchor="<target_name>"] tag and close the tag after your text.
To jump to your target, use the url tag like [url="#<target_name>"] (make sure to add the '#' to the beginning of the url).
You need to close both tags, like this:
<!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->
[anchor="my_target"]My target[/anchor]
...
...
...
...
Jump to [url="#my_target"]my target[/url]
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I used the new anchor tag for both the links at the top and the "return to top" link after each question. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Export your map to a .map format.
Close your map.
Open the .map file.
By default the .map format will not load invalid brushes.
Now rebuild all the missing brushes.
You have a lot of invalid brushes so you should be carefull so there are no leaks when you use this trick.
Thanks all