Incredible Noob Gorge Question

OmnibladeOmniblade Join Date: 2004-04-10 Member: 27839Members
in NS General Discussion
howdy there, now I'm still haven't some problems adjusting to the new changes, last time I played was 1.04 , now back then I remember reading that bile bomb, a then fade skill, did damage and double damage vs buildings

now I was playing gorge last night when I get called "noob lamer spam gorge" because I was throwing bilebombs itno a group of marines trying to weld CC because bile bomb doesn't damage marines at all O.o

so does bilebomb damage marines or not?
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    No, BB doesn't damage Marines any more.

    However, ignore people calling you a 'noob lamer', they're just ticked because you're damaging their CC. Bile Bomb is base-destruction, and it's their own idiocy if they can't kill you, and placed their CC in a location where it's easy for you to bomb it.

    Keep up the good work, ignore the morons. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    edited May 2004
    But bilebombing a single unelectrified stucture is worse than biting it.
    Then better heal or web.
    bilebombing is just good against groups of structures or electrified resnodes (because its cheaper than fades).
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  • Swift_IdiotSwift_Idiot Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11883Members
    Lies.
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  • SalvationSalvation Join Date: 2003-11-21 Member: 23300Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ollj+May 13 2004, 09:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ollj @ May 13 2004, 09:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But bilebombing a single unelectrified stucture is worse than biting it.
    Then better heal or web.
    bilebombing is just good against groups of structures or electrified resnodes (because its cheaper than fades). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yes but you don't have to be by the thing your attacking eirther for bile bomb, that is useful

    sometimes, but non the less, useful
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  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    sometimes posting these "newbie questions" in the "new player forum" or at least searching in there might be helpful to really new players with the same type of question.
    /just sayin'

    And bilebomb doesn't even damage armor. Might as well focus spit it.
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Salvation+May 13 2004, 10:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Salvation @ May 13 2004, 10:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Ollj+May 13 2004, 09:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ollj @ May 13 2004, 09:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But bilebombing a single unelectrified stucture is worse than biting it.
    Then better heal or web.
    bilebombing is just good against groups of structures or electrified resnodes (because its cheaper than fades). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yes but you don't have to be by the thing your attacking eirther for bile bomb, that is useful

    sometimes, but non the less, useful <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    the only case a single unelectified structure ever happens is RTs and phase gates. In both cases being as close to the structure as possible is adventagous. RTs give you cover forcing the marines into close range if they want to protect it/attack you, and PGs will spawn waves of marines that are hard to kill if you're not right up to them.
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  • Jared101Jared101 Join Date: 2004-02-22 Member: 26804Members
    heh,my first question when i started playing and went <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> was

    "why the hell does this guy suck so bad"
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    I loved the gorge builder class when I started NS, something about just laying turrets and then ignoring locations, of course I later learned that that doesn't really work so well. Still the gorge as a class requires more stratigic play then any unit in any FPS I have ever played. This suits my playing style perfectly, even in counterstrike I used to flank repeditively and always try to be in unexpected places. Using other players minds against them is something that I pride myself on being able to do well.
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  • v4rAv4rA Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23672Members, Constellation
    Bilebomb is the best base destruction weapon ever, if your were killing the cc and having 4 marines welding it, you were amazing. 4 marines less trying to kill aliens, the cc going red. It could be said that YOU won that game. The really lamers are those, who the only thing they say is lamer...
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  • ChezChez Join Date: 2004-01-05 Member: 25074Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-v4rA+May 14 2004, 03:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (v4rA @ May 14 2004, 03:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Bilebomb is the best base destruction weapon ever, if your were killing the cc and having 4 marines welding it, you were amazing. 4 marines less trying to kill aliens, the cc going red. It could be said that YOU won that game. The really lamers are those, who the only thing they say is lamer... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I can bile bomb a cc with 8 marines as a <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> but I would get pummeled in seconds <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    It takes ages to BB a CC (yay <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) to death. I can I aim for the arms lab or if it's late in game the armoury (probably advanced) then the arms lab. If I have time it's then the proto. It screws them over severely.
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  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    It really just depends. If you know this isn't the 'gamewinner' assault by the aliens, by all means, bile, try & drop something important.

    However, there's two catches.

    One - If you don't have a third hive, you could be off getting RT's down or gaining res to build it, thus probably helping the team more.

    Two - If you <b>do</b> have a third hive, let the other species trash the base, and make yourself more useful with a little webspam. if it makes that H.Train die, you might have just cost the marine team the game.

    Some of these little things I think need a bit of a rethink in current NS, as by & large the only times bilebomb is appropriate, there are other things that could be doing the job better.

    - Shockwave
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  • SalvationSalvation Join Date: 2003-11-21 Member: 23300Members
    also taking out mines...

    brought you by people that can't not run into them ;0
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  • MintmanMintman Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16866Members
    The only time bile bomb is really required is when you've got a vent overlooking a turret farm. Apart from that you're better off being somewhere else, doing something else.
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  • OmnibladeOmniblade Join Date: 2004-04-10 Member: 27839Members
    well I had had Adrenaline and was heal spraying the others just outside of there encampment, occationally peeking my head around and wiffin bile bombs all over the place while the others had everyone preoccupied

    and yes I would have posted on the newbie forum I just totally overlooked it when I orginally posted this message sorry bout that
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  • LittleToeLittleToe Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19163Members
    edited May 2004
    web is your friend. a few strands for the marines to run into if they chace you works wonders.

    edit...

    dont waste web. if there are no marins there is no reson for them.
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    ya, don't waste web, drop a little for self protection if you must, but if you spam web in one location all it takes is for one marine to jump into if for the whole thing to be screwed.
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  • DashyDashy Join Date: 2004-04-30 Member: 28342Members
    tbh its easyist to use bile bomb to out out a Tfs turrets. its like 5 bile bombs to take out one turret and it does splash damage to every turret around it. with in about 2 mins u can take out a Ele Tfs 10 turrets and just place a OC to deal with the Tf while u go bile the next loada turrets .... <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> > <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • R_A_CR_A_C Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16273Members
    I love to bile bomb but I wish they would bring back the 1.04 BB and put it where it belongs: 3 hive ability for fade. The current hive3 fade weap. sux and should be replaced by 1.04BB of course this is only my opinnion and would require TONS of tweaking to balace it.

    /off topic: <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> in counterstrike I used to flank repeditively and always try to be in unexpected places. Using other players minds against them is something that I pride myself on being able to do well<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    LOL this is my favorite thing to do in CS. Only occasionally will it work wonders but it doesn't matter to me because these sometimes game decideing screw ups won't matter when the next round starts in a few minutes. I wish I could do the same in NS but that usually costs a LOT longer than a two minute round.
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  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    I'm sure if 5 went gorge to bile bomb ms they'd kill everything, even turret farms.
    So long armory, arms lab, obs, ip in 10 seconds...
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