Great job ns team!
ms_streisand
Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3687Members
Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3687Members
<div class="IPBDescription">...not</div>wow, hey guys, how about giving a weapon that can acutally kill the marine first? or how about having accurate hit boxes?? i ####### bit a guy 3 times and he didnt die, he turned around and shot me, wow theres balance to the max, how about having a weapon that shoots something at the marine that can kill them instead of having 6 aliens rush 2 marines and all the aliens die? or how about two aliens climbing up a wall, waiting , seeing a marine, jumping down bite him, or at least bit a non hit boxed body part, and he turns around and wastes both of us, im talking about teamwork with the ALIENS MOSTLY NEVER WORKS, the alien weapons are all useless exept for the onos and when you are one you charge a guy with a machine gun and/or a shotgun and lose half of your health trying to get him, oh and how about running into a guy with onos and he just some how magically evades it, turns around shoots the #### out of you before you FINALLY get him <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::asrifle::'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tiny.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::onos::'><!--endemo--> , <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::asrifle::'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/skulk.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::skulk::'><!--endemo--> .......... GIVE THE ALIENS A WORKING WEAPON IN THE NEXT VERSION, PLEASE?
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The teams ARE balanced, if you "bit" the marine 3 times and you didnt die maybe you just ate his toes, or you generally suck and thought you ate him.
Seriously, the teams ARE BALANCED!
Just give people a little time to get familiar with the aliens, myself i've been walking from server to server telling everybody neat strategies for pure alien ownage, and it acctually gets people over to the alien side, hell I was just on a server where marines had like 600 resource and all upgrades, the aliens had two hives and they still owned the marines even though the marines had all the advantages.
If you know the tricks and treats of aliens, they really are good, it just takes time to learn.
Think before you speak, all you need to do is to give this mod some waiting and people will start figuring how it works, not everybody opens NS and thinks: "bwahahaha, I 0wn, i'm just log on to a server and own because I know excactly what to do and when to do it"
Give it some time and stop complaining.
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Since the marine´s standart rifle and pistol have pinpoint accuracy, we will have former Counter-Strike and Quake players, who wipe out entire Alien armies by themselves by giving headshots all the way.
And since almost all Aliens are four leg based, the head is in front and very easy to hit then. Especially the Onos.
Please do not introduce hitboxes, this would ruin everything.
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Whoa now, let's not throw him to the wolves too fast. I suggest starting with Minesweeper or maybe Microsoft Word.
By the wy, great post Ms. Streisand!
Guess what I'm about to say...
not. Hah-hah-hah, so witty am I.
Aliens are MORE POWERFUL than Marines, they are just harder to learn.
Repeatedly the playtesters take on Complainers that say Marines are too powerful, and we play alien and whip them severely.
Take a look at the film I made, it is pinned at the top of this forum. In it you can see one skulk wipe out 4 marines. And the Marines were all veteran playtesters, myself included.
Like I said, it is Skill.
|3ill, j00 4r3 73h wi77i357 3v4r!
Seriously though, Streisand, if you don't like NS, why don't you go and spend over two years of your time coding your own mod and make it do everything that everyone in the entire HL community wants perfectly on its first release... it's easy for super 1337 people like you, I'm sure *rolls eyes*
Yes we are all "noobs", you are too, the game is 2 days old.
You should go <a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2002-10-11" target="_blank">here</a> and pay close attention to the last part.
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On to the point... Balancing the game was one of the biggest focal points in playtesting. I'm quite surprised to see this kind of reaction all over the place. It's pretty depressing.
Perhaps people just need to realize that this isn't Counter-Strike or DoD with aliens? It's a game of its own - with unique gameplay, and if you approach it with the attitude that you <i>know</i> how it should be played, then I don't predict that you're going to have a very fun time.
A level1 or 2 alien <i>shouldn't</i> be able to take out a squad of marines, or even a few. If he's going to involve himself in combat, he'd better make his moves wisely. I'm also wondering if you were up against a bunch of fully upgrade marines, while you yourself were a base level with no upgrades. Then you'd <i>really</i> have no chance. This is obviously by design, not imbalance...
You can not rush into this game expecting to spawn in and immediately go take out a bunch of enemies without any thought as to your attack strategies or without <i>using</i> the gears and cogs of the game. This isn't team deathmatch. Play it like it is, without giving any consideration to the inner workings of the game, and you're not going to do so well.
<b>I don't blame people for being confused with how the game plays here... but it's the attitude associated with it (a gamer's attitude regarding anything, actually) that make me want to reconsider my career goals at times.</b>
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I don't know how people can think they can analyze the game like this when they've only played it for a couple hours, and with the conditions of the servers out their probably with a ping well over 1000. We're new to the game, it's obviously got some depth that you haven't found yet. Think of CS, the first time you bought an AK were you able to snipe people off with it? Good god no, you probably were like 1 and 10 the first time you played CS.
And if you think you bit someone 3 times and they didn't die... maybe you didn't hit them. I mean, the best ping i've seen so far was 400 and if you think you're perfectly insync with the server at that rate, you're an idiot. I wonder if the server code was this bad in play testing.
Aliens got the #### stick.
How the #### did these non-agressive poop-cicles take over a damn space station anyways? Was it a retirment home, and the only means of defense was the urine bowls?