False Fps?

AvvatarAvvatar Join Date: 2003-10-26 Member: 21970Members, Constellation
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Ok, I recently upgraded my operating system from Windows XP to Windows 98. Microsoft might disagree with my assessment... but I don't really care with what they think. So I have some trouble with DLLs but get it all sorted out, and get Steam installed, and NS downloaded and patched clear up to 3.0b4a. I turn off my Vsync, and open NS display properties, turn up the resolution, and set it to use D3D. It immediately comes back and tells me it can't use D3D and has put it back in OpenGL. That's the first problem.. I'd really like to use D3D, and I'm sure my graphics card supports it, other programs are using it. But anyway, I decided I could live with OpenGL, and connected to my favorite server. Thats when things got weird. I have net_graph 3 up, and it says I'm running at a near-constant 100 FPS, but as soon as I start moving around, it becomes quite clear that somethings wrong. It feels like its 30 FPS at best. The net_graph still says its at 100, but it's way off. It's even slower than the 70 FPS net_graph used to report with XP. Because the game believes it's running at 100 FPS, I have no clue where to even start fixxing this problem. Anyone who can tell me whats wrong, point me in the right direction, or tell me his buddy had this problem and commited suicide because he could resolve it, ANYTHING would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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AMD Athlon XP 2400+
512 MB ram
Sound is onboard, but currently disabled, haven't gotten to it yet
GeForce FX 5200 64MB
Windows 98
OpenGL, 1024x768
DirectX 9.0b (I think.. whatever it was, it was the latest, downloaded today)
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  • Marine0IMarine0I Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8639Members, Constellation
    You've made it pretty clear what the problem is, and you've set things out properly for Tech support, which is why this is so frustrating - cause I got nothing <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    As always, firmware updates for motherboards, latest detonators for your vid card, try dropping the res (though I doubt that will help) and seeing what happens. If you've done that, then hopefully someone who has more clue than I can help you.

    Have you tried a forum search for someone with a similar problem?
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  • 2iDCaptainGeN2iDCaptainGeN Join Date: 2004-02-26 Member: 26905Members, Constellation
    Well first off steam is a POS, well you shouldnt have a problem with that card. A good idea might be to contact steam support. Just make sure you have the latest drivers for the gforce card i know the new drivers are a little buggy so go with the 53.03 drivers. Well best of luck
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  • 2iDCaptainGeN2iDCaptainGeN Join Date: 2004-02-26 Member: 26905Members, Constellation
    d3d doesnt work well with ns so just use opengl
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  • AvvatarAvvatar Join Date: 2003-10-26 Member: 21970Members, Constellation
    Well, I think I've figured it out, but I can't test it yet. I have all the latest drivers installed, and my graphics drivers had no problems installing, no complaints, no errors. My motherboard drivers however, did have some problems. As it stands, my onboard sound and onboard network are not working, because the drivers were made for 98se. And it wasn't until I put it all together, because both drivers are from nvidia, that I realised the graphics drivers probably weren't made for pre-se 98 either. Now I have to find my 98se disk... I know its around here somewhere. I still have no idea how net_graph can read 100 FPS when its clearly not, but I fully expect that installing 98se will fix the problem.

    Thanks for all the help.
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  • john_sheujohn_sheu Join Date: 2004-02-26 Member: 26917Members
    Instead of "messing with your DLLs", do it the manly way and reformat-reinstall! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Other than that, probably a graphics card problem or perhaps a Vsync thing. Check your monitor refresh rate; it might be set at 30 or so.
    And why not OpenGL? I've played Steam NS across two cards already (a really old Rage128, and my current Radeon 9800 <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) and in both cases OpenGL runs better.
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  • KisanKisan Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18564Members
    Might want to just try reinstalling your graphics drivers if you don't get it fixed.
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  • Kenichi-SNKKenichi-SNK Join Date: 2003-12-21 Member: 24617Members
    The same thing happened to me. I have a computer that could run NS with ease since it runs Medal Of Honor Allied Assault smoothly at 60fps, yet still NS/HL wont go over 30fps unless i look at a flat wall with no bullet marks on it.

    What is it were missing? Or is it a fps limit bug effect some of us with med spec comps?
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  • KisanKisan Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18564Members
    Try turning off vsync if you have Windows XP if you havn't already.
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  • Vahn_PaktuVahn_Paktu Join Date: 2002-10-28 Member: 1666Members, Constellation
    Try and fix your sound card. I upgraded my on board sound card drivers and I had better FPS.
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