Adminmod and hlguard

Mazdek · November 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">Do they work with ns yet?</div>I went to check the AdminMod forums to see if there was any mention of NS, and I found <a href="http://www.ozforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=36660" target="_blank">Flayra's post</a> on October 8th asking for info on how to get AdminMod support. Any news on that front?

Also, anyone see if HLGuard works well with it? Not that I've seen cheating yet, but its only a matter of time.

NDGhetto_Fractux · November 2002

So for I can't get adminmod 2.50.50 to work on my server. BUt I have seen servers running with adminmod. I have not figured out the problem yet.

HLGuard works fin on my server though, v1.30.1.

Cheers!

voogru · November 2002

They did something which i dont understand why they did it, They changed the classname of the player (YOU) which is "player" to "avhplayer" Since most mods (if not all) before they do something to a player, they make sure the classname is "player" Since the coders at NS have changed this, any mod which checks the "player" classname before doing anything will have be be specially modified to work on NS. It will load, but it wont do anything on players.

But, Question to the devs. Whats the point of changing the classname of the player?

voogru · November 2002

bump

Vadakill · November 2002

I used AdminMod 2.50.50 on my Linux server with zero issues. I installed it plain-jane and disabled most of the plugins, especially the ones having to do with TFC and CS, also make sure the vaialbes that go along with those are off. Make sure if you have any custom scripts that you recompile it again for the latest AdminMod. I had to recompile a few custom things but the normal stuff worked without a hitch.

As for the "player" thing, maybe it's in there from future expansions or ideas? I dunno.

Vadakill

Jett-Aries · November 2002

For some reason when I tried AM on the server, the server would start a game reset every 5 - 10 minutes. So I had to remove AM.

Any ideas about that? The console would just show "Game reseting" and then boom, it resets. I am using latest version of AM and Meta. Everything works fine on the CS server.

Chose_The_Nails · November 2002

Has anyone gotten Admin_mod to work with Win32 Dedicated servers yet?

On my server if I try to use it it just shuts the server down if someone joins. All TFC/CS plugins are disabled and no custom plugins are installed.

PhillyHB · November 2002

I got both Hlguard and Adminmod to work on my server i dont recommend hlguard yet since the game already takes up 80 percent of my cpu and im not even sure it works with NS.

When i had hlguard on i noticed even higher pings so untill the patch comes out i dont recommend it but they do work, both of the mods were the newest versions.

My system is dual amd +1900 mp with a gig of registered ram and i still had bad cpu utilization.

Server is located at 166.70.62.165:27015

Freak · November 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> ([Jett]-Aries @ Nov. 02 2002,07:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For some reason when I tried AM on the server, the server would start a game reset every 5 - 10 minutes. So I had to remove AM.

Any ideas about that? The console would just show "Game reseting" and then boom, it resets. I am using latest version of AM and Meta. Everything works fine on the CS server.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
This problem seems to be only with WIN32 servers. I have tried the previous version of AM and it does the same <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> I guess we have to wait for a patch to fix the ADMINMOD issue. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

Narfwak · November 2002

What I read in other forums was that metamod needs to be updated for use in NS. Some (probably a ton) of the NS entities cannot be recognized by mm, and so it craps out. Maybe we should harass the mm people to get a new version out, as I want to get am installed on spider gaming's ns server (win32, I wish it was linux).

NDGhetto_Fractux · November 2002

The newest release (oct 6 v 1.13.1) Metamod does support NS.

I can get HLguard to work fine. But the last two releases of version of AM won't work. I'm using a linux mandrake 8.1 box.

You can go read the posts on the AM forums ( <a href="http://www.ozforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=37927" target="_blank">http://www.ozforums.com/showthr....d=37927</a> ), they may help some people.

It didn't help me however.

The server packet loss will go way up with AM running whenever anyone tries to join. YOu can't connect to the server. And, the server does not even register that someone is trying to connect. The packet loss skyrocks, but hlds doen't register a thing.

Cheers!

bmd · November 2002

I also had issues after I installed adminmod tonight w/ the latest version of both AM and MM. Server would randomly crash every 5-10 minutes no matter what. Never could find a problem with it, not sure what went wrong.

joev · November 2002

I've had adminmod running on the test linux server all through the last few months of play-testing with no problems.

You need the latest Metamod which I'm pretty sure must come bundled with AM 2.50.50

I'm using an older Adminmod (2.50.26 with metamod 1.31.1) which doesn't have the new addons functionality but should in most other respects be pretty much the same.

I'll try 2.50.50 today and see if I have problems... if not, I'll post a rundown of my configs.

joev.

NDGhetto_Fractux · November 2002

I'm really curious as to why this is happening.. heh..

Maybe I should kick my box? <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Or better yet <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::asrifle::'>

[Ok I just wanted to find a way to put that e-mote in a post]

Cheers!

Freak · November 2002

I tried backing off to 2.50.26 on my WIN32 server and still no luck. I will load AM on my linux box tomorrow to see what the results are...

BitchSL4P · November 2002

Currently, adminmod 2.50.50 works under linux, but does not seem to work under win32.

If anyone can confirm adminmod working under win32 please let me know.

-Slappy

EvilGrin · November 2002

win32 doesn't work here.
Linux works fine.

Seems to be what I'm hearing from other admins aswell.

saiyr · November 2002

I don't know if this has been posted, or the problem has solved, but Adminmod specifically says that if you haven't registered your mod with it as a developer, then it won't work. Maybe that's why? I didn't see NS listed as a supported mod, but I downloaded an older version.

prodigy · November 2002

For whatever reason Win32 servers will not run AdminMod without crashing. I have no clue what causes this considering I run AdminMod on two other linux servers without any problems.

Might I recommend ClanMOD as an alternative...

MercsDragon · November 2002

I've heard that some people have gotten it to work on windows by disabling all of the CS and TFC stuff. And metamod does say that it works with NS.

saiyr · November 2002

A lot of people have posted here that they disabled all the plugins, but it still doesn't work.

johnshue · November 2002

I tried running AdminMod 2.50.50 with all of the plugins disabled, this caused hlds to exit as soon as i joined the server. So i uncommented the plugin_base.amx, and it would give the same results as with all of the defaults, server goes Dr Watson on me soon after two people join the game.

The Dr Watson trace says it's an access violation, but i don't have the time to look deeper.

The people on the AdminMod forums are saying it's a problem with metamod, claiming that because they sit on top of metamod they're mod-independent and thus they can't be causing the problem...

I edited the metamod config NOT to load adminmod as a plugin and the server is running fine w/ metamod loaded and no metamod plugins:

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>meta version
16:27:22 Metamod v1.13.1, 2002/10/06
by Will Day <willday@metamod.org>
<a href='http://www.metamod.org/' target='_blank'>http://www.metamod.org/</a>
compiled: Oct 6 2002, 18:49:35 Eastern (optimized)
meta list
Currently loaded plugins:
description stat pend file vers src load unlod
0 plugins, 0 running
</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

I might try loading the HLGuard metamod plugin to see if that causes crashing.

-john

saiyr · November 2002

Now here's a thought. AdminMod runs for me on WIN32. The problem is, it's not very compatible. Whenever there are players on both teams, boom. It's gone. And stuff like that.

voogru · November 2002

metamod works fine, i run my own plugins thru metamod(a plugin i made to use like admin mod since admin mod wasnt working.)

i think the problem is with AM but i could be wrong.

NDGhetto_Fractux · November 2002

I had gotten metamod to work fine with no plugins, and with HLGuard.

Like I said before, I've had no luck whatsoever with admin mod.

I have yet had the time to set up clanmod to see if it will work.

Anyways, no rush anyways, the several days of running my server 24-7 has gotten my bandwidth usage up quite a bit, and seeing as my brother and I have used a considerable chunk so far this month, I had to lock it down for a while. Oh well.

Cheers!

saiyr · November 2002

HLGuard is fine, yeah, adminmod is fine, yeah, but then someone joins the other team and the server blows up. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

johnshue · November 2002

Yeah, exactly, everything with adminmod appears to work correctly when it's just me and one or two players on the same team (marines). most commands/features seem to work as expected admin_slap, reserved slots, users.ini, etc. (admin_slay wasn't working but didn't crash anything). As soon as someone joined the other team, boom, it crashed.

-john

Grimm_Spector · November 2002

I got tired of reading, so if someone's already told u ppl this, sorry I didn't finish reading the forum, but what I have to say is this:

A new metamod version, will fix all your win32 and linux problems with NS because of entities, player calls and other things; many admin mod plugins will do nothing without a new version, which doesn't yet exist, so go harass the MM people, its not really and adminmod problem.

The "avplayer" issue may be fixed by MM or AM, it should be possibly through a small AM plugin that modifies previous entries; but what's the point? Wait for MM.

As for HLGuard, they'll probably need a specialized one because of the uniqeuness of NS; however most of the features provided should work, because they don't rely on player calls, they rely on data sent from the player to the server (such as aiming info; and hooks).

Good luck to all you admins, you'll have your hands full getting your NS servers into a livable environment in a lot of cases.

Grimm Spector <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'>

DarkSpawn · November 2002

In case you others talking about AM have linux boxes, I now have AM up on a win32 server, so it does work. If you make sure you get the newest metamod version. (1.13) Unfortunately though, it causes a crash whenever somebody joins the server.

DarkSpawn · November 2002

Correction, it crashes when somebody joins the other team. I go in, join a team, then when someone else joins and tries for the other team, the server crashes. Just like several others in this thread :I

wilsow3 · November 2002

Not sure who's fault it would be but the am problem seems to be very windows specific. I don't think any of your posts were on linux boxes, I'm runnin a ns linux ded server with metamod, adminmod, hlguard, and that autobalance plugin in another post and its been behaving itself for the most part. I'm pretty sure I've heard other linux admins say that adminmod works fine on their servers also. The solution: install linux!

Adminmod and hlguard

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