Borrowing sabatoge tactics from SomethingAwful goons? How does you egoes feel, crushing the pathetic minority? Like going after stoned protestors with napalm. Makes you feel masculine, doesn't it?
EpidemicDark Force GorgeJoin Date: 2003-06-29Member: 17781Members
Man, they lock "What's the next word poster" <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> That's some insta hate in my book
Just for fun, I wondered what the results of "Scooter's chat with Nem" would look like replacing Scooter with Master Shake, and Nem with Frylock. It helps to use the sound of their voices as you're reading this to yourself. If you don't know who Frylock and Master Shake are, you might as well skip this post as you won't "get it". :P
<Master Shake> Did you move it to the moderator only section?
<Frylock> By the way, for the nth time, your posts aren't deleted, but moved.
<Master Shake> Yeah I know but it serves the same purpose as deleting them
<Frylock> We have all your posts from all your faked accounts in there.
<Master Shake> Well I don't know if I'd call them "fake" so much as "other"
<Frylock> No, it doesn't. First, we have track records, second, we can review them if a user asks for it, third, we can tell another mod if his action was out of line, and he can move back-
<Master Shake> Well it serves the same purpose in that it immediately ceases all public viewing and discussing of the message
<Frylock> *deep breathe*
<Frylock> I'm fighting my sarcasm back here, so please excuse it if this comes off as harsh, but seeing that you are effectively trespassing on private property, I wouldn't complain about that too loudy.
<Master Shake> What an interesting analogy
<Master Shake> I'd phrase it more as protesting an illegitimate ban on a community discussion board
<Master Shake> Anyway, what I was wondering was whether you were going to take the time to seriously read what I wrote
<Master Shake> The post was in effect requesting a public review of my forum ban
<Frylock> I usually tend to, but as you should understand, I've got other duties than paying attention to this complex, and usually, they take the front seat as I can see them coming to some sort of conclusion.
<Frylock> Which won't happen, period.
<Master Shake> Let me ask you a hypothetical question
<Frylock> I can review your ban if you wish, the moderation staff can, Flayra can, if you insist, but that's it. Those are the authorities around here.
<Frylock> Shoot.
<Master Shake> If the head forum admin were to hypothetically abuse his or her priviliges, would it still be admin abuse?
<Master Shake> Or would that fall under the allowed discretion of the position?
<Frylock> No, it'd still be admin abuse in my book, so if you can prove to me or Flayra that I dd, I'll acknowledge this.
<Frylock> did*
<Master Shake> Well assuming that Flayra is out of the picture, if you were to hypothetically commit admin abuse, I would have to convince _you_ that _you_ committed admin abuse?
<Frylock> But I won't make my, or any other moderators decision, subject to popular vote. "If the whole world disagrees with you, and you are right, you are still right." - Ghandi.
<Master Shake> So you think your opinion is more important than the community's opinion?
<Frylock> No. Every part of the community - i.e., every member - is free to leave if he or she doesn't want to be around.
<Frylock> If they stay, they accept that I was appointed to enforce the rules.
<Master Shake> So in other words, within the forums your opinion is more important than the community's opinion?
<Frylock> And, to answer your question, I *have* been convinced by users that I did the wrong thing on numerous occasions, which resulted in re-opened threads, lifted suspensions - the whole jazz. Believe it or not, but I'm not completely on the Dark Side yet.
<Master Shake> But the fact is that it couldn't happen unless you wanted it to happen.
<Master Shake> So if it weren't in your best interest to admit you committed admin abuse, such as if your powers were on the line, you wouldn't allow yourself to be convinced.
<Frylock> You talk as though you knew exactely how and what I'm thinking, and how I'm reacting to criticism. Honestly, I find *that* a little hybris-laden, to name what you are accusing me of the whole time.
<Frylock> Your basic assumption is that I, having admin 'privileges', am a rotten little scumbag, and nothing but constant pressure keeps me from laying peoples egos to waste. Guess how charmed I am by that kind of treatment.
<Master Shake> Okay, a few things:
<Master Shake> First, I'm not attacking you. I'm not saying you're a bad person. I'm saying that the forums should be more responsive to what the community wants.
<Master Shake> Second, I'm the last person to be guilty of hubris. I'm willing to weigh my opinion less than that of the community's
<Master Shake> If the community thinks I should be banned, then I'm willing to accept that.
<Frylock> scooter, have you read the responses to your posts? 'The Community' does not agree with you. You are not the voice of 'the community' any more than I am.
<Master Shake> You're not hearing me
<Master Shake> I'm saying that I don't think I'm the voice of the community
<Master Shake> And I want to give the community a chance to voice its opinion
<Master Shake> That's why I wouldn't have removed those posts from public view or locked them
<Master Shake> And besides, I've received a significant number of PM's and positive replies
<Master Shake> I don't think you should be threatened by letting the community speak its mind on an issue like this
<Frylock> I'm not threatened by it. I don't see why I should make exceptions to our rules for you.
<Master Shake> I'm saying we should change the rules for the betterment of the community
<Frylock> Especially considering how you behaved yourself up to this point.
<Master Shake> And also, if you read the last post that was removed from public view
<Master Shake> You'll see that I'm arguing I didn't break any forum rules
<Frylock> Yes, you did. You should note that to the general ruleset outlined upon registration, there are addendums in every forum.
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
edited June 2004
I'd say it'd be more like going hunting baby seals with a .50 BMG rifle. They don't know that the harder they beat their heads against that jagged ice, the worse it's going get. I can't help but find it moderately amusing that he's appealing to the 'community', and getting mocked, derided, and in general spat on for his actions...
...and still refuses to see that he does not speak for the community, or even a noticeable minority thereof.
<span style='color:white'>Tal, what did I and Mr. Baseball Bat tell you about dragging dirty laundry into the open?</span>
He really should shut off the martyr jets. He's a spectacle... but it's more like someone who has supplied rotten tomatoes and then padlocked themselves into the stockades.
(edit) Agh! Doom, my head hurts now as the following section actually played itself out mentally with the VOICES. <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->...
<Master Shake> Did you move it to the moderator only section?
<Frylock> By the way, for the nth time, your posts aren't deleted, but moved.
<Master Shake> Yeah I know but it serves the same purpose as deleting them
<Frylock> We have all your posts from all your faked accounts in there.
<Master Shake> Well I don't know if I'd call them "fake" so much as "other"
<Frylock> No, it doesn't. First, we have track records, second, we can review them if a user asks for it, third, we can tell another mod if his action was out of line, and he can move back-
<Master Shake> Well it serves the same purpose in that it immediately ceases all public viewing and discussing of the message
<Frylock> *deep breathe*
<Frylock> I'm fighting my sarcasm back here, so please excuse it if this comes off as harsh, but seeing that you are effectively trespassing on private property, I wouldn't complain about that too loudy.
<Master Shake> What an interesting analogy
<Master Shake> I'd phrase it more as protesting an illegitimate ban on a community discussion board <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> After that it doesn't sound like Shake would be able to enunciate enough, but for this chunk the inflection reads itself. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> (/edit)
EpidemicDark Force GorgeJoin Date: 2003-06-29Member: 17781Members
<!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Jun 2 2004, 04:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Jun 2 2004, 04:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Confuzor+Jun 1 2004, 04:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Confuzor @ Jun 1 2004, 04:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The roots of this board have been long since forgotten since the the nepotistic nature of the administrators have granted their powers on to individuals who share in the cerebrate collective.
scooter_blue has introduced a profound new ideology that you have all been blinded from seeing, which is the reality, what with all the bombardment of capitalist dogma, which have left you jaded. There are of couse, individuals not corrupted by such dogma. Individuals such as I. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Nepotism is a favoritism towards relatives in business. The word you are looking for is Narcissistic.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In fact, <b>I will take arms</b> in support of his reformation, his revolution.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're kidding, right?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->scooter_blue has introduced a profound new ideology that you have all been blinded from seeing, which is the reality, what with all the bombardment of capitalist dogma, which have left you jaded. There are of couse, individuals not corrupted by such dogma. Individuals such as I.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Individuals "uncorrupted by capitalism"? Wouldn't those be communists?
Chances are you were joking, but I can't resist an opportunity to make corrections.
In short, scooter_blue = Stalin?!
Edit: Looking at the other forums, this is quite possibly the funniest thing I have ever seen.
It seems that <i>someone</i> has been watching too many revolutionary films. Looking at his chat log with Nem0, he bears a striking resemblence to many arrogant talk-show hosts who twist the words of others. I expect to see an influx of propaganda from scooter_blue soon.
Anyone want to start a counter-revolutionary force to shut down this guy? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Take this, you capatalistic pig dog! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
On an unrelated note, who the heck is Akimbo oranges..
<!--QuoteBegin-Epidemic+Jun 2 2004, 08:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epidemic @ Jun 2 2004, 08:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> On an unrelated note, who the heck is Akimbo oranges.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Your lord and master.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I threatened to blow up New York City with a nukliar bomb thing and Nem0 sent the thread to the polices!!!
OMG, how lame!!! Somebody needs to kill the NS forums!!!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
edit: After looking at the forums again. I can safely say that its been totally massacred with inappropriate material and random jibberish.
I had nothing to do with this part, and in a way am rather sorry for what is now on scooter blue's forum... he did kind of have it coming, but still... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Looking at that profile, I direly need a new pic... Or face...
Anyway, for what it's worth, I'd like to ask everyone reading this for a favor: <i>Don't</i> demolish scooters forum. If you disagree with him, either try to discuss the topic with him - I gave up on it, but that doesn't have to mean you should -, or just leave him alone. You are better than what I see going on over there.
NarfwakJoin Date: 2002-11-02Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
edited June 2004
I think this little forum project of his is going to turn into some seriously cruel karma. Give it time, and he will go out of his mind trying to put down those making a mess of things without being at least somewhat strict. I think he'll eventually go much further than Nem or the others have ever done.
Edit: Oh, and the reasoning? He "wanted to give the community" a voice. We've got one, and it would appear we don't talk the way he thinks we do. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Hobojoe+Jun 2 2004, 04:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hobojoe @ Jun 2 2004, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nobody answered my question, why would you <b>delete a 25 page thread</b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Because the admins are Satanic!
<!--QuoteBegin-Hobojoe+Jun 2 2004, 04:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hobojoe @ Jun 2 2004, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nobody answered my question, why would you <b>delete a 25 page thread</b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No admin or mod could name any such occurance, nor could we find any of the "numerous inquiries" regarding that delete. We're currently going through the SQL database to find out what happened.
<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Jun 2 2004, 12:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jun 2 2004, 12:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Hobojoe+Jun 2 2004, 04:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hobojoe @ Jun 2 2004, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nobody answered my question, why would you <b>delete a 25 page thread</b> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No admin or mod could name any such occurance, nor could we find any of the "numerous inquiries" regarding that delete. We're currently going through the SQL database to find out what happened. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> LIES!!!11
<a href='http://nsforumreform.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=opendiscussion&action=display&num=1086172346' target='_blank'>Everyone post about how much you love Nem!</a>
<!--QuoteBegin-Hobojoe+Jun 2 2004, 11:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hobojoe @ Jun 2 2004, 11:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nobody answered my question, why would you <b>delete a 25 page thread</b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The same reason you would delete a 1 page one. Going against the board rules.
I heard the sensory thread was once browsed by so many people at once it caused a forum crash or something. Maybe someone was forced to delete it to preserve the forum's stability.
EpidemicDark Force GorgeJoin Date: 2003-06-29Member: 17781Members
<!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Jun 2 2004, 07:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jun 2 2004, 07:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Hobojoe+Jun 2 2004, 11:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hobojoe @ Jun 2 2004, 11:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nobody answered my question, why would you <b>delete a 25 page thread</b> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The same reason you would delete a 1 page one. Going against the board rules. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Surely not every post of the 25 page thread would go against the forum rules.. And the premis would okay too since it had around to attain 25 pages..
Once in a while, I'll see a thread locked and think, "dang, I really wanted to talk about that, I don't know why it's locked." Other rare times, I'll see counterproductive, sarcastic, or snide threads locked with counterproductive, sarcastic, or snide moderator comments, and I'll think, "if the mods are saying we should be more mature than this, shouldn't they be more mature themselves?"
But those instances are very rare. I'm very largely impressed at the success of the moderators of these forums. To accent how almost completely fair I believe this forum to be, I'll say that I've never been banned here, out of my, what, 1300 posts, while in another NS related forum that shall remain nameless, I got banned in under 40 posts. Safe to say this is my forum of choice. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Jimmeh+Jun 2 2004, 07:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh @ Jun 2 2004, 07:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://nsforumreform.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=opendiscussion&action=display&num=1086172346' target='_blank'>Everyone post about how much you love Nem!</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Do you see the irony? he edited someone's post He is a moderator there being what he apparently hates the most. GG scootah bl00
[EDIT:]omg i just realised what narfwak's avatar is, Calvin and Hobbes for the win
<!--QuoteBegin-Confuzor+Jun 2 2004, 10:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Confuzor @ Jun 2 2004, 10:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I for one find myself in agreence with him. I do suppose that great minds think alike.
The roots of this board have been long since forgotten since the the nepotistic nature of the administrators have granted their powers on to individuals who share in the cerebrate collective. What we see today in the Natural Selection Forums, ladies and gentlement, is the administrators' goal for a utopian society, free from "trollers".
Now, superficiially, this sounds like reason to celebrate, but they are master weavers of discombobulation, and in doing so, they are weeding out the very individuals who signify reason, signify voice, signify <b>independence</b>.
I can smell the arrogance and sarcasm, and it makes me sick, sick like one whose intestines are left devoid of nutrients as the parasites that cling upon it consume all my vigour. Your mockery of a very talented indivdual, that being "scooter_blue", is appaling, and I for one sympathize with his cause. In fact, <b>I will take arms</b> in support of his reformation, his revolution.
All your radius/ulna/humerus are belong to the revolution. The dislocation of such bones from you indivduals, either those who are willing, or those who recalcitrant, is of no consequence to me. The scouring of the arms shall begin today. scooter_blue has introduced a profound new ideology that you have all been blinded from seeing, which is the reality, what with all the bombardment of capitalist dogma, which have left you jaded. There are of couse, individuals not corrupted by such dogma. Individuals such as I. Yes, I am many individuals myself. And I shall come back with a vengeance to bring forth the freedom that this forum once possessed. I will not fail this community.
Amen.
[edit] I'd like to make an apology right now regarding the sanity of the above post. Clearly, my psychotic tendencies have gripped me like the boa constrictor which strangles the life out of the siamese lion which it feasts upon. I meant to write "agreement", not "agreence". "Agreence", is, of course, not a real word.
That is all. [/edit] <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Best. Post. Evar.
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as nem0 stated, i was out of line for "deleting" this topic...
i find it interesting how you guys ridicule him... so far, i only know of 3 people that truely support his movement.
and guests can no longer post....
How does you egoes feel, crushing the pathetic minority?
Like going after stoned protestors with napalm. Makes you feel masculine, doesn't it?
*Applause*
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<Master Shake> Did you move it to the moderator only section?
<Frylock> By the way, for the nth time, your posts aren't deleted, but moved.
<Master Shake> Yeah I know but it serves the same purpose as deleting them
<Frylock> We have all your posts from all your faked accounts in there.
<Master Shake> Well I don't know if I'd call them "fake" so much as "other"
<Frylock> No, it doesn't. First, we have track records, second, we can review them if a user asks for it, third, we can tell another mod if his action was out of line, and he can move back-
<Master Shake> Well it serves the same purpose in that it immediately ceases all public viewing and discussing of the message
<Frylock> *deep breathe*
<Frylock> I'm fighting my sarcasm back here, so please excuse it if this comes off as harsh, but seeing that you are effectively trespassing on private property, I wouldn't complain about that too loudy.
<Master Shake> What an interesting analogy
<Master Shake> I'd phrase it more as protesting an illegitimate ban on a community discussion board
<Master Shake> Anyway, what I was wondering was whether you were going to take the time to seriously read what I wrote
<Master Shake> The post was in effect requesting a public review of my forum ban
<Frylock> I usually tend to, but as you should understand, I've got other duties than paying attention to this complex, and usually, they take the front seat as I can see them coming to some sort of conclusion.
<Frylock> Which won't happen, period.
<Master Shake> Let me ask you a hypothetical question
<Frylock> I can review your ban if you wish, the moderation staff can, Flayra can, if you insist, but that's it. Those are the authorities around here.
<Frylock> Shoot.
<Master Shake> If the head forum admin were to hypothetically abuse his or her priviliges, would it still be admin abuse?
<Master Shake> Or would that fall under the allowed discretion of the position?
<Frylock> No, it'd still be admin abuse in my book, so if you can prove to me or Flayra that I dd, I'll acknowledge this.
<Frylock> did*
<Master Shake> Well assuming that Flayra is out of the picture, if you were to hypothetically commit admin abuse, I would have to convince _you_ that _you_ committed admin abuse?
<Frylock> But I won't make my, or any other moderators decision, subject to popular vote. "If the whole world disagrees with you, and you are right, you are still right." - Ghandi.
<Master Shake> So you think your opinion is more important than the community's opinion?
<Frylock> No. Every part of the community - i.e., every member - is free to leave if he or she doesn't want to be around.
<Frylock> If they stay, they accept that I was appointed to enforce the rules.
<Master Shake> So in other words, within the forums your opinion is more important than the community's opinion?
<Frylock> And, to answer your question, I *have* been convinced by users that I did the wrong thing on numerous occasions, which resulted in re-opened threads, lifted suspensions - the whole jazz. Believe it or not, but I'm not completely on the Dark Side yet.
<Master Shake> But the fact is that it couldn't happen unless you wanted it to happen.
<Master Shake> So if it weren't in your best interest to admit you committed admin abuse, such as if your powers were on the line, you wouldn't allow yourself to be convinced.
<Frylock> You talk as though you knew exactely how and what I'm thinking, and how I'm reacting to criticism. Honestly, I find *that* a little hybris-laden, to name what you are accusing me of the whole time.
<Frylock> Your basic assumption is that I, having admin 'privileges', am a rotten little scumbag, and nothing but constant pressure keeps me from laying peoples egos to waste. Guess how charmed I am by that kind of treatment.
<Master Shake> Okay, a few things:
<Master Shake> First, I'm not attacking you. I'm not saying you're a bad person. I'm saying that the forums should be more responsive to what the community wants.
<Master Shake> Second, I'm the last person to be guilty of hubris. I'm willing to weigh my opinion less than that of the community's
<Master Shake> If the community thinks I should be banned, then I'm willing to accept that.
<Frylock> scooter, have you read the responses to your posts? 'The Community' does not agree with you. You are not the voice of 'the community' any more than I am.
<Master Shake> You're not hearing me
<Master Shake> I'm saying that I don't think I'm the voice of the community
<Master Shake> And I want to give the community a chance to voice its opinion
<Master Shake> That's why I wouldn't have removed those posts from public view or locked them
<Master Shake> And besides, I've received a significant number of PM's and positive replies
<Master Shake> I don't think you should be threatened by letting the community speak its mind on an issue like this
<Frylock> I'm not threatened by it. I don't see why I should make exceptions to our rules for you.
<Master Shake> I'm saying we should change the rules for the betterment of the community
<Frylock> Especially considering how you behaved yourself up to this point.
<Master Shake> And also, if you read the last post that was removed from public view
<Master Shake> You'll see that I'm arguing I didn't break any forum rules
<Frylock> Yes, you did. You should note that to the general ruleset outlined upon registration, there are addendums in every forum.
... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
...and still refuses to see that he does not speak for the community, or even a noticeable minority thereof.
<span style='color:white'>Tal, what did I and Mr. Baseball Bat tell you about dragging dirty laundry into the open?</span>
He really should shut off the martyr jets. He's a spectacle... but it's more like someone who has supplied rotten tomatoes and then padlocked themselves into the stockades.
(edit) Agh! Doom, my head hurts now as the following section actually played itself out mentally with the VOICES.
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<Master Shake> Did you move it to the moderator only section?
<Frylock> By the way, for the nth time, your posts aren't deleted, but moved.
<Master Shake> Yeah I know but it serves the same purpose as deleting them
<Frylock> We have all your posts from all your faked accounts in there.
<Master Shake> Well I don't know if I'd call them "fake" so much as "other"
<Frylock> No, it doesn't. First, we have track records, second, we can review them if a user asks for it, third, we can tell another mod if his action was out of line, and he can move back-
<Master Shake> Well it serves the same purpose in that it immediately ceases all public viewing and discussing of the message
<Frylock> *deep breathe*
<Frylock> I'm fighting my sarcasm back here, so please excuse it if this comes off as harsh, but seeing that you are effectively trespassing on private property, I wouldn't complain about that too loudy.
<Master Shake> What an interesting analogy
<Master Shake> I'd phrase it more as protesting an illegitimate ban on a community discussion board
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After that it doesn't sound like Shake would be able to enunciate enough, but for this chunk the inflection reads itself. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> (/edit)
scooter_blue has introduced a profound new ideology that you have all been blinded from seeing, which is the reality, what with all the bombardment of capitalist dogma, which have left you jaded. There are of couse, individuals not corrupted by such dogma. Individuals such as I. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nepotism is a favoritism towards relatives in business. The word you are looking for is Narcissistic.
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You're kidding, right?
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Individuals "uncorrupted by capitalism"? Wouldn't those be communists?
Chances are you were joking, but I can't resist an opportunity to make corrections.
In short, scooter_blue = Stalin?!
Edit: Looking at the other forums, this is quite possibly the funniest thing I have ever seen.
It seems that <i>someone</i> has been watching too many revolutionary films. Looking at his chat log with Nem0, he bears a striking resemblence to many arrogant talk-show hosts who twist the words of others. I expect to see an influx of propaganda from scooter_blue soon.
Anyone want to start a counter-revolutionary force to shut down this guy? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Take this, you capatalistic pig dog! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
On an unrelated note, who the heck is Akimbo oranges..
Your lord and master.
OMG, how lame!!! Somebody needs to kill the NS forums!!!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
nubstick = teh win thanks Talesin <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
edit: After looking at the forums again. I can safely say that its been totally massacred with inappropriate material and random jibberish.
I had nothing to do with this part, and in a way am rather sorry for what is now on scooter blue's forum... he did kind of have it coming, but still... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Anyway, for what it's worth, I'd like to ask everyone reading this for a favor: <i>Don't</i> demolish scooters forum. If you disagree with him, either try to discuss the topic with him - I gave up on it, but that doesn't have to mean you should -, or just leave him alone. You are better than what I see going on over there.
Edit: Oh, and the reasoning? He "wanted to give the community" a voice. We've got one, and it would appear we don't talk the way he thinks we do. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Nanites.
Alternatively, bacterium.
Nanites.
Alternatively, bacterium. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm going with the nanites.
Because the admins are Satanic!
Quickly! Go join an NS reform movement!
No admin or mod could name any such occurance, nor could we find any of the "numerous inquiries" regarding that delete. We're currently going through the SQL database to find out what happened.
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LIES!!!11
/dons cape of anti-bannination
help me I'm a ****!
The same reason you would delete a 1 page one. Going against the board rules.
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Surely not every post of the 25 page thread would go against the forum rules.. And the premis would okay too since it had around to attain 25 pages..
But those instances are very rare. I'm very largely impressed at the success of the moderators of these forums. To accent how almost completely fair I believe this forum to be, I'll say that I've never been banned here, out of my, what, 1300 posts, while in another NS related forum that shall remain nameless, I got banned in under 40 posts. Safe to say this is my forum of choice. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Do you see the irony?
he edited someone's post
He is a moderator there being what he apparently hates the most.
GG scootah bl00
[EDIT:]omg i just realised what narfwak's avatar is, Calvin and Hobbes for the win
<img src='http://forums.animesuki.com/images/smilies/dot.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
I glanced at it and thought "oh spaceman spiff, kewl"
The roots of this board have been long since forgotten since the the nepotistic nature of the administrators have granted their powers on to individuals who share in the cerebrate collective. What we see today in the Natural Selection Forums, ladies and gentlement, is the administrators' goal for a utopian society, free from "trollers".
Now, superficiially, this sounds like reason to celebrate, but they are master weavers of discombobulation, and in doing so, they are weeding out the very individuals who signify reason, signify voice, signify <b>independence</b>.
I can smell the arrogance and sarcasm, and it makes me sick, sick like one whose intestines are left devoid of nutrients as the parasites that cling upon it consume all my vigour. Your mockery of a very talented indivdual, that being "scooter_blue", is appaling, and I for one sympathize with his cause. In fact, <b>I will take arms</b> in support of his reformation, his revolution.
All your radius/ulna/humerus are belong to the revolution. The dislocation of such bones from you indivduals, either those who are willing, or those who recalcitrant, is of no consequence to me. The scouring of the arms shall begin today. scooter_blue has introduced a profound new ideology that you have all been blinded from seeing, which is the reality, what with all the bombardment of capitalist dogma, which have left you jaded. There are of couse, individuals not corrupted by such dogma. Individuals such as I. Yes, I am many individuals myself. And I shall come back with a vengeance to bring forth the freedom that this forum once possessed. I will not fail this community.
Amen.
[edit] I'd like to make an apology right now regarding the sanity of the above post. Clearly, my psychotic tendencies have gripped me like the boa constrictor which strangles the life out of the siamese lion which it feasts upon. I meant to write "agreement", not "agreence". "Agreence", is, of course, not a real word.
That is all.
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Best. Post. Evar.
--Scythe--