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Lito
Join Date: 2003-09-04 Member: 20560Members
Join Date: 2003-09-04 Member: 20560Members
Okay, this is really getting lame.
After a hardfought game, marines are closing it to take out the last hive. A player takes it to himself to hi-tail it out of there into a comfy vent, gorge, and slap down some 50 res worth of stuff and wait out the end.
Its stupid, its getting old, its not funny anymore.
Not only could you have used that res to help the team beat back the marines (who says they're no comebacks in 3.0 b4a?), but to delay the inevitable by sitting in a vent with a couple DCs, forcing marines to either get jetpacks or set up seige to kill you is just not fun for the others.
People want to get another game going, and you're sitting there, staring at a few grey vent textures sitting on 3 DCs and an OC, delaying the game for atleast a minute. Nice one. You accomplished what? Nothing.
Its all fun and games until YOU start having to wait for idiots who take it upon themselves to make 50 res fallout shelters to stretch the game out a little more.
After a hardfought game, marines are closing it to take out the last hive. A player takes it to himself to hi-tail it out of there into a comfy vent, gorge, and slap down some 50 res worth of stuff and wait out the end.
Its stupid, its getting old, its not funny anymore.
Not only could you have used that res to help the team beat back the marines (who says they're no comebacks in 3.0 b4a?), but to delay the inevitable by sitting in a vent with a couple DCs, forcing marines to either get jetpacks or set up seige to kill you is just not fun for the others.
People want to get another game going, and you're sitting there, staring at a few grey vent textures sitting on 3 DCs and an OC, delaying the game for atleast a minute. Nice one. You accomplished what? Nothing.
Its all fun and games until YOU start having to wait for idiots who take it upon themselves to make 50 res fallout shelters to stretch the game out a little more.
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"Cmon Brian! Get him! Aw, damn..."
There is a really awful vent-base location next to a hive in one map that is just about impossible to dislodge (very long entrance vents, so no bilebombing), and a few others in various maps that are still fairly annoying but will fall to bilebomb.
Look, you have no rts, and can't leave your base without being destroyed. You've lost. You don't get any bonus points for wasting the next half an our of everyone's time. Even if you have rts (ie, not a vent base), if you can't possibly attack any hives, don't fight too hard. Once the pain is over you can start again.
Its funny the first time, but not the 50th time.
I really don't understand that sort of rule...
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There are no comebacks. No lifeform can stand more than a few shots at one hive versus lv3 ups. Simple as that.
Anyway, I tend to do that only once it's clear that rines have secured too many RT's to have any chance, so instead of wasting res to fade (being called a res **** and then dying to the next LMG) building your own, little hide is the best fun to have at that point.
Idiotic? Maybe. Fun? Relatively. Better than sitting in queue? Definitely.
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You're whole team i suited up in heavy armor with hmgs, and moves out to biodome. someone screams 'HEAVIES INCOMING', and one guy pipes up to say "The games over, lets just f4", after 4 f4's the game autoconcedes even before they reach the hive.
Sure, marines were going to win, no doubt, but you're walking to the hive and suddenly the music plays and the screen fades to black. Dont you feel like the win was almost...stolen from you? If not stolen, it had to feel a bit cheaper than if you had shot down the hive. Yeah, its not too fun for the aliens, but you lost, so face the music. The next time the marines are on the alien team, they have to do the same thing.
Now i'm not going to be a anti-f4 activist, i'm just describing how it feels to win in such a way after you've played in a server that doesn't allow it.
If the marines are taking their sweet time in their march to the final hive, tell them to hurry up.
There are often enough players on the losing team that think the time-waster is funny, and will not f4. It's simply easier to slay them, and as a bonus it sends a strong message to not do it again.
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You're whole team i suited up in heavy armor with hmgs, and moves out to biodome. someone screams 'HEAVIES INCOMING', and one guy pipes up to say "The games over, lets just f4", after 4 f4's the game autoconcedes even before they reach the hive.
Sure, marines were going to win, no doubt, but you're walking to the hive and suddenly the music plays and the screen fades to black. Dont you feel like the win was almost...stolen from you? If not stolen, it had to feel a bit cheaper than if you had shot down the hive. Yeah, its not too fun for the aliens, but you lost, so face the music. The next time the marines are on the alien team, they have to do the same thing.
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Well, you'd probably be justified in feeling that way if say, you barely phase rushed their third hive before it finished, you sieged out their second hive and then they recaptured it with onos and it was almost finished, then they saw you had heavies and f4ed their oni.
But really, when is it that a team talks about f4? The real reason people yell "f4!!" is because their second hive was killed right after it dropped, the marines have motion and level 3 armor, no one ever dropped a node anyway, and 1/3rd of the marine team is 25-3. Was the win in doubt? Do you actually need to spawncamp for 5 minutes to realize that you won?
People get around that "no f4" rule anyway: by leaving the server. Then instead of a team f4ing you get some genius yelling "taems!! temas!!!" for the next 5 minutes while the comm tries to figure out how to attack the last hive without capping the rest of the map.
Not that I meant to hijack the thread or anything <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
Gorge hideouts were lame and old when I started playing in 1.04. They're funny once and then they cease to be.
I wish aliens would spend their res. I see so many people with 37 res or 62 floating around as an unupgraded skulk. It's like hello, what do you plan on doing with the extra 14 res leftover or whatever after you gorge/lerk/fade? Do this stuff earlier. Earlier is always better. And stop spending your res on lerks if you're just going to try to bite and rush lone LMGers who will stomp your neck and laugh.
I just augh. Augh. I don't know what else to augh. I've seen things to make a man lose interest in gaming.
Easy way to dislodge end-game hiders -- scan, siege. It's not rocket surgery. So often I see Comms who just piddle around doing nothing while the aliens are hiding, expecting the Marines to run all over the map and listen for healing sounds. What if they have MCs in there? Once an alien is finally located, THEN the Comm gets Jetpacks.. then it's another 6 minutes until someone kills themself to get out of a heavy and into the JP. Foo's.
story number one: i'm a hive 1 fade, and pretty much of the team's future lies in me. i blink into a small group of marines... suddenly, NS jammes itself due to whatever... i cannot do anything for 60 seconds. after i regain control over the game. i see the last 60 seconds fly past in 1 second. whoosh, gunfire, fadeout. GG.
another time, today: ns_tanith, 2 hives, marines about to attack cargo. we have 2 onoses + couple of fades, so no problem. i also have res for onos, and are about to gestate in fusion. then, i see both of our onoses STUCK in the ceiling... i try to build them mc's, but in vain. sieges+hmg's kill them both.. good farking game. thank god that bug's gonna get fixed :/
if the game is lost, and everyone but one person is dead (this is aliens remember, marine endgame hiding is fun to watch), i simply f4.
Thats if you actually have around 100 res spare by the time rines ace your last hive.
To be honest I think if you don't like gorge campers then invest in sieges and ping everything. Give everyone JPs and GLs and offer incentives to the person who gets the gorge.
As for marine campers, gg SoF. Sniff them out then just keep pounding them with xeno and spores.
Never!! Spit, parasite or healspray the buggers to death, had a game last night where marines had just lost their base and the comm had managed to drop a spare CC outside double ( Veil ), there was one marine left on the team busy building the thing and I came screaming around the corner web slinging ( Spidey style ) and spat him to death with the whole marine team watching, good times <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
somehow that seems like it would be extremely funny
i mean,you can mute then when you get ttired of it
Gorges building chillrooms in their time are useless to the team and deserve to be shot. While a gorge is wasting his res to drop dc's to survive POD just to get a few extra points on the board, he is not being any help to the team (healing lifeforms in rushes, securing hives etc.). DC Darkling quoted that a good gorge will only use this tactic to survie hive attacks, so that if he has the res, he can drop the hive again if the team wants, a simple and smart tactic only the n00b pubbies might critisize.
What can a gorge do instead of building chillrooms:
->Build oc's in passageway intersections ( a good idea to stop scouts from changing directions and getting stuck). ->Help his teamies in rushes on rine sub-bases / bases. ->Get res nodes. ->Scout in pairs of 2's and spam sc's around the map. ->Secure 3 upgrade chambers. ->Plant traps with web and sc's. ->Drop dc's behind hives (in case of siege attcks.
So there is basically no excuse for a lazy gorge to say he has nothing to do as an excuse.
I say NUKE ping of death.
Shoudl not take to long with a good comm
F4 is the way to go! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
somehow that seems like it would be extremely funny
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Its the waste of res that pisses me off
One time i was trying to make a vent base as a marine in red room on ns_nothing. I managed to get past all the ocs and into RR and called to the comm who dropped me a phase. Managed to fight off a couple of aliens and ended up with only 2 in my pistol clip. Phase went up and 2 guys phased through just as we lost spawn and the comm chair. We sat there for a couple of minutes before a fade came. I had a JP but the other 2 didnt and they stayed behind fighting the fade while they told me to go. Everyone was having a good laugh as i flew away from onos, fades, gorges and skulks until i finally died somehow, probably fall damage.
in 2.0 i think they do
What about for camping marines? No CC or IPs = sof on everyone (regardless if the alien has sof upgrade or not).
Turtling in a vent can be fun, but far too often its abused and done for no other reason than to spite the winning team.
no, had a good comeback yesterday where gorges got kills from ocs and put up a hive and eventually we ended up with 3 and a victory