I'm Sick And Tired Of Losing All The Time
Gnacox
Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1654Members
Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1654Members
As the topic says I am sick and tired of losing all the time (as alien).
I play well, really well, I get hives up and going I clean out camped areas singlehandedly (getting a few defensive chambers closeby and changing to lurk works wonders) and yet we (aliens) hardly ever win. I even tried playing on one of the 1.01 servers, but we still got wiped out.
Granted we win some battles, but most of the time we get butchered by grenade launchers and heavy armor HMG marines.
There is something ****ed up in the marine balance and it isn't just the resource bug or uneven teams (the teams tend to be more fair now). I don't exactly know what is wrong, but I am definitely tired of losing all the time, it is killing my wish to be play an otherwise fantastic mod (mod? more like a new game). Fix it soon, or you will lose one player. :-/
I play well, really well, I get hives up and going I clean out camped areas singlehandedly (getting a few defensive chambers closeby and changing to lurk works wonders) and yet we (aliens) hardly ever win. I even tried playing on one of the 1.01 servers, but we still got wiped out.
Granted we win some battles, but most of the time we get butchered by grenade launchers and heavy armor HMG marines.
There is something ****ed up in the marine balance and it isn't just the resource bug or uneven teams (the teams tend to be more fair now). I don't exactly know what is wrong, but I am definitely tired of losing all the time, it is killing my wish to be play an otherwise fantastic mod (mod? more like a new game). Fix it soon, or you will lose one player. :-/
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Also I see too few people acctually play the lerk, you could try that for a change I took out 3 marines with Heavy armor and 2 without + I wiped a small marine outpost, all this without even dieng.
I find it neat to have a lerk with cloak, adrenaline and regeneration, if you sneak behind a marine and start biting him but you don't kill him because he has heavy armor, just fly away, you're gone before he gets the time to do anything about it.
And then hide somewhere and shoot at him with your slot2 attack, when he sees you: fly away.
Then when he starts looking for you he will eventually turn his back which is when you start going at him again, this time you will most likely kill him, if there are multiple marines just shoot at them until they are really low on hp then use the bite attack
I don't know why but there are far too few people really using the lerk, and the really neat thing with it is that you can use it with only one hive, lerks really pwn unupgraded marines with they're needles.
This is also (I believe) one of the reasons you loose many games as an alien: people just gather they're resources in hopes that a third hive will come online for them to evolve to onos, which is rather stupid.
I am pretty good, I nearly always lie on top of the scoreboard usually with a rate of 2:1 or 3:2, I stick with my teammates and try to get some tactics and teamwork going. I know most of the counters by avidly reading this site and other people's experiences on #naturalselection. I put up nasty traps and can take out a reasonably defended area alone. However we always seem to lose. Out of all the games I have played as alien (at least 15) I have been on the winning alien side maybe 3 and one of those was because the commander sucked (we could hear them complain). On the other hand I stand undefeated as marine (except once where I got in the game about 5 minutes before we lost).
Great to hear that your server is evening out, however that is *not* the case on most other servers.
In reply to #3 (banan):
Actually I use lerks to take out bases and help with umbra (and it says so in my post, though I misspelled lerk as lurk)
Marines:
Because the marines have a commander they have structure and tactics, the commander asks them to build at a resource point and several marines will run over and do it, he gives a waypoint and several marines move to it. People playing the game want to fit into their role and thus will gladly follow the commanders instructions, with a tactical mind in the commanders chair the Marines can move to victory almost every time against an alien team not working together.
Aliens:
As I said I used to think aliens sucked. This was because we would all work at getting three hives, but before we got the third it was camped out with guns and the marines had heavy armour, HMGs and grenade launchers. However my mind was changed when I met the right group of people.
I joined a server and played as an alien because there were 9 on marines and only 6 on alien, on the alien team were two people using voice communication and playing as builder aliens, there was also a great guy there who plays under the alias of MaZ. With the two people on voice communication we had a sort of command structure going with those people voicing their recommendations, we camped out our original hive with Offence Chambers and 2 defence chambers for every 3 offence. This massacred an early attack by the marines.
Immediately it was coordinated that 2 teams should defend the other hives taking one builder with them to build the other hives. We ended up with two hives building at the same time, and of course once we got the 3 hives we won easy with the help of builders placing defence chambers down where we were attacking.
Then the level changed and the teams got mixed up, again the aliens were loosing. However I got a great insight into the way the aliens could be.
One thing that I think would be awesome is if an aliens bite attack damage was doubled when attacking from behind, that would be great, at the moment a Marine in heavy armour attacked from behind has the armour to turn around and fire upon his attacker even though the marine deserves death as he was completely unprepared and open to attack.
NS still rocks
However it shouldn't be necessary, aliens should be just as good as marines without having to have great teamwork (which they arent). :-/
However it shouldn't be necessary, aliens should be just as good as marines without having to have great teamwork
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That is a stupid statement, and wrong.
However it shouldn't be necessary, aliens should be just as good as marines without having to have great teamwork
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Ah yes, now I see the light. Thank ou very much for your clear and concise arguments. They have show me the path. Or maybe not...
i just came out of a game a while ago where i was aliens 6 times in a row (as in rounds) before the map change and each time we won use#ing little teams work.... it was me and 2 other who was using that teamwork. 1 builder 2 skulks till the onos came along....
so what i'm trying to say is aliens can win.... sometimes solo sometimes with teamwork. if u don't wana lose so much get some buddys to play with all the time and use ur mics. u will enjoy it more even if u do lose.
I win with aliens 75% of the time
I communicate very well and work together with my teammates
I have seen very few people who are adapting well to the alien teams. Give it some time, it will improve.
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