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Join Date: 2004-06-24 Member: 29515Members
Join Date: 2004-06-24 Member: 29515Members
<div class="IPBDescription">What do u think, good or bad?</div> Alright, i read the forums every few days just to stay informed but have never felt a need to reply to anything. But over the past few weeks i have developed a raging hatred for the people the use binds in co_ maps to where they can attack and leap as a skulk, or fades that fly in and wack the marines a few times and fly out, i think it just ruins the game. I liked 3.0 when it first came out but now it seems that people are starting to develop "hacks" that arent hacks that are ruining the game, at least for me. Some people dont think that a flying, biting skulk is hacking, but to me, anything that alters the game is a hack. Im just curious as to what everyone else thinks and to what, if anything, the creators of ns are doing about it, or even if they see it as a hack.
Thx for any comments
Thx for any comments
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As an example, a fade player is going to blink-swipe a marine, then blink away.
1. Fade player presses the Swipe Weapon key (1)
2. Fade player presses the Blink Weapon key (2)
3. Fade player points at target
4. Fade player presses the Attack key (MOUSE1)
5. Fade player presses the Last Weapon key (Q by default I believe)
6. Fade player locks view onto target
6. Fade player waits until Swipe range is achieved
7. Fade player presses the Attack key
8. Fade player presses the Last Weapon key
9. Fade player points at escape path
10. Fade player presses the Attack key
Remember that good fade players will also use Metabolize while attacking for extra Health/Energy.
What you've described is a "script" - a mini-program enabling you to perform multiple actions by only pressing one button - such as jumping several times, leaping and biting, etc.
The whole topic is a current debate; some see scripts as little better than hacks, and other simply see them as a tool to be used.
Welcome to ns-the-actual-game as opposed to ns-the-game-in-your-head, I suppose, if you want to be welcomed.
<a href='http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlayToWinPart1.htm' target='_blank'>teh scrub</a>
Except there are legitimate uses to the bind command.
And no (serious) script writer would think of using the bind command. He'd edit his .cfg if he wanted to do ANYTHING.
remove bind? what would that achieve... just exit, edit the old config.cfg and restart the game....
Except there are legitimate uses to the bind command.
And no (serious) script writer would think of using the bind command. He'd edit his .cfg if he wanted to do ANYTHING. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Someone give this kid a dictionary and open it to the page where 'sarcasm' is found.
now when you press your weapon slot # keys you will imediately switch to that weapon without having to press fire to activate it.
so this is all that ppl are doing . press 3..fire...attack..press 1..attack..
its not that hard. no script (or bind to you) is involved any one who would try to use one would be fool because its more of a handicap. your bite/swipe would miss except at an exact distance.
if your against the console..you can add this setting in the game options..multiplayer tab.. advanced menu
and your welcome.
now when you press your weapon slot # keys you will imediately switch to that weapon without having to press fire to activate it.
so this is all that ppl are doing . press 3..fire...attack..press 1..attack..
its not that hard. no script (or bind to you) is involved any one who would try to use one would be fool because its more of a handicap. your bite/swipe would miss except at an exact distance.
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Incorrect. Most people do not do this. We use the little 'bind' in the controls called "switch to previous weapon" and bind it to something close to your movement keys. Then select slash then blink then alternate between the 2 using that button. Problem solved.
This birngs also another example. If you think leap biting or blink slashing is such a problem then shouldn't switching between the pistol and the lmg also be a huge problem? How about in cs when you quickswitch between the rifle and the pistol? They're all doing the same thing, just that ns uses it slightly differently.
<a href='http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlayToWinPart1.htm' target='_blank'>teh scrub</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Competitive streetfighter player says "Authority on the subject" all over. Hand me my nasal spray please.
btw. I don't believe anyone of you if you want to tell me that you bunnyhopp all the time without scripts ..pfff.
Cheating death and so on is all useless because the cheats are still included in HL, just think of
-> scripts
-> ligh (gamma), shadows,
->models
->some textures (somebody told me you can deactivate bushes and so on at DoD)
->exploits (map- and game-exploits; e.x. knockback or at hera marine start the fade / lerk hiding out of range tactic outside at rt)
so long hf
ps: i still rule against you ! ( sometimes ^^)
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> Yihaa finally a guy who thinks like me !! Ban the scripters !!!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There are many people who share your opinion that scripts should be completely blocked/banned/stopped... you're not unique in that sense.
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... ook then. if you won't believe, then there is no point argueing. (Don't feed the trolls)
however, any server with mp_consistency set to 1 - suddenly all the bhop scripts don't work and it's down to people's abilities. That setting was deliberately written into the game - I may be boldly mistaken saying this, but NS is one of the only mods that has a setting like this?
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There is an aimbot yes, but unless sv_cheats is on, then it doesn't work - there is no wallhack, there is no ESP, there is no speed cheats, (Looking at other mods: there are no teleportation hacks, there are no skin hacks)
-> scripts: these aren't cheats....
-> light gamma, shadows - ... you can never stop people changing their gamma settings. it is part of gaming. deal with it or leave.
-> textures - This is NS, not DoD - again, consistency will stop texture and model abuse (i think textures? not 100%, but definately models and sprites excluding xhairs)
-> exploits - these are constantly being worked out by the exterminators and the devs - every game in the world has exploits... map exploits as they are noticed and made public are dealt with very quickly usually (there aren't even that many?)
in the newest version of hera, you can go up into the corner ontop of the walkway and still be shot by marines on the platform - i know, i've pistolled gorges, lerks, fades and skulks who have gone up there
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In the words of many people who would struggle to think of a suitable reply to this without bugging an admin;
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Also that fly script (written by myself) does not make u bite during ur escapades. But you are able to (if mouse2 is clicked fast enough) to leap, without losing adren, for a time amount of about 5 - 10 seconds, depending on area in game.
I found the fastest way to move across the map with this, was to activate it as you would bhop. Without touching ground, leap.. could keep about ~900 speed in the narrow hallways of EC <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> . Hope I clarified that, before this gets out of control.
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If a new member brings a topic that's already been through up, that's no reason to flame him.
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