How To See If Someone Is Cheating

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  • pinkeyepinkeye Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23144Members, Constellation
    This thread gets a gold star for the day.
  • comradecomrade Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23774Members
    Five golden manbabies <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RiotingNerdRiotingNerd Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20896Members
    seriously who doesnt respond to cheating accusatinos with an lol
    anything else just takes too much time to type when youre busy owning up a pub
  • NedFlandersNedFlanders Join Date: 2003-11-21 Member: 23318Members
  • rknZrknZ Join Date: 2003-10-23 Member: 21885Members
  • bananafodderbananafodder Join Date: 2003-01-25 Member: 12718Members
    you know there's a way to destory cheaters.. and that's just to beat them at their own game....

    and to do that.. just get a lot better without cheating. *shrug shrug*

    i agree that alot of cheaters are just little kids, cuz i cannot fathom as to why a grown person would want to do that. what compels a person to cheat in the first place other than just malice and spite at another person's expense? that's just so immature...

    I just think it's a lot more worth while if i can still kill cheaters, sides it's funny.


    anyway, just my 2 cents worth. feel free to flame.

    <3 for the NS community.
  • Al_KaholicAl_Kaholic Join Date: 2004-01-31 Member: 25821Members, Constellation
    5 pages of replies within about six and a half hours of its creation. That's some type of record, I believe. Probably not, but meh. Anyhoo, some things to consider: asking people you suspect of cheating if they are indeed cheating isn't the way to go about it. If they are making your existance so unbearably horrible, just spectate them and take some demos and screenshots of suspicious activity and report it to an admin of the server. Leave the discression up to them, no offense. Also, paranoia about cheaters and hackers isn't helpful for your gaming experience. And as long as you're not majoring in human psychology, I wouldn't use it as much of a defense.




    lol




    *Gets banned from 108 NS servers*
  • SariselSarisel .::&#39; ( O ) &#39;;:-. .-.:;&#39; ( O ) &#39;::. Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18557Members, Constellation
    Newest most popular topic, enjoying a modest average reply rate of 10.4 posts per hour (that's about one post every 6 mins) in its first 7 hours of existence with 68 posts so far with the last reply being from rknz. Also in terms of popularity, there have been 128 views per hour on average.

    lol
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    I'm one of the players saying "lol" if i get acused of cheating, followed by a msessege why i'm not cheating. By your physic thinking i should be a cheater.

    ...


    Classec thread <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> funny <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RabidWeaselRabidWeasel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5337Members
    If I'm playing any game and I get accused of cheating, I'm about 50% likely to say "thanks" and 50% likely to say "lol", conditional upon the tone with which the accusation was delievered.

    Why? Simply because I find it both amusing and a complement, that they believe that my level of skill is unattainable by human ability.

    And yeah, this thread is pretty dumb.
  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    Yeah being called a hacker rocks!!! Especialy when they think I aim bot, its like thx man!

    lol
  • l3igDl3igD Join Date: 2003-11-20 Member: 23262Members
    Hmm.. To bad some of the good players do use hacks to ruin pubs.
  • BloodBallBloodBall Join Date: 2003-07-11 Member: 18098Members
    omg hes owning me he must be hacking!
  • l3igDl3igD Join Date: 2003-11-20 Member: 23262Members
    omg yes.. When I hear people talking about hacks then going to a pub server to test them.
  • pinkeyepinkeye Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23144Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-l3igD+Jun 29 2004, 09:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (l3igD @ Jun 29 2004, 09:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hmm.. To bad some of the good players do use hacks to ruin pubs. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    l o l
  • PneumaticCrabPneumaticCrab Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10133Members
    "my clan is composed of my friends. they are allowed to say anything they want =[ I may not always agree with everything they say, but who am I to tell them what to say and what not to say? Kenichi was definitely persistent, and probably angrier than i about the matter, but he had just as much right to voice his opinion as you did, or any of the other people in that channel that nay let speak besides myself, doobie, and nsa officials. I would have thought that people would be able to see that kenichi's opinions, and any other ham member's opinions would be taken as such, their personal opinions, and that only I would be in a position to speak for the clan as a whole.

    And why are you inquiring about our CAL schedules? Are you a CAL admin? Are you a NSA admin? Just a good friend of nay's? No offense, I'm just asking because I don't know if we've ever really met, the first time i remember seeing you was that night in the channel, and i didnt really understand at the time why you were being allowed to speak. Also, who is this ixiom guy? He spent a little time to come up with a few predictions and nay just decided to make him an admin? Again, i'm not trying to criticize you in any way, i've just noticed that you have some strong opinions against us, and with all due respect I don't really have any idea who you are or where you came from.

    As for the CAL schedules, we have spoken with cal admins and the understand the situation, both clans are waiting to make a decision around the time that 1.1 playtesting starts, depending on the state of the game at that point we could both lose a few members or gain a few currently inactive ones back."
  • l3igDl3igD Join Date: 2003-11-20 Member: 23262Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-PneumaticCrab+Jun 29 2004, 11:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (PneumaticCrab @ Jun 29 2004, 11:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "my clan is composed of my friends. they are allowed to say anything they want =[ I may not always agree with everything they say, but who am I to tell them what to say and what not to say? Kenichi was definitely persistent, and probably angrier than i about the matter, but he had just as much right to voice his opinion as you did, or any of the other people in that channel that nay let speak besides myself, doobie, and nsa officials. I would have thought that people would be able to see that kenichi's opinions, and any other ham member's opinions would be taken as such, their personal opinions, and that only I would be in a position to speak for the clan as a whole.

    And why are you inquiring about our CAL schedules? Are you a CAL admin? Are you a NSA admin? Just a good friend of nay's? No offense, I'm just asking because I don't know if we've ever really met, the first time i remember seeing you was that night in the channel, and i didnt really understand at the time why you were being allowed to speak. Also, who is this ixiom guy? He spent a little time to come up with a few predictions and nay just decided to make him an admin? Again, i'm not trying to criticize you in any way, i've just noticed that you have some strong opinions against us, and with all due respect I don't really have any idea who you are or where you came from.

    As for the CAL schedules, we have spoken with cal admins and the understand the situation, both clans are waiting to make a decision around the time that 1.1 playtesting starts, depending on the state of the game at that point we could both lose a few members or gain a few currently inactive ones back." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What are you talking about? ~_~
  • InsomniaInsomnia Join Date: 2003-06-10 Member: 17179Members
    edited June 2004
    Wanna see if he cheats. press f4. Spec him. You see his cross hair snap around, hes cheating. You see him empty 40 bullets in 1 second or bite 5 times in a second hes cheating. thats all.

    LOL @ crab. wrong thread dude
  • camO_ocamO_o Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28028Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-jumpingjoda+Jun 29 2004, 03:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jumpingjoda @ Jun 29 2004, 03:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Asking "are you cheating" is a fundamentally dumb question.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There is no such thing as a dumb question, just dumb answers.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You are familiar with the concept of lying right? So if you ask that question and I actually answer it other than "lol" or "yes I am ;-)" then it will be a no, if I'm not cheating I won't tell you seriously that I do, if I am cheating I will lie. I'm not going to type an essay in the middle of a game since if you are familiar with the concept of lying you will realise that I might well be lying and I would have wasted alot of typing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How could you know that i am <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i'm sorry, but exactly what were you expecting when you posted this? that we'd all agree with you and praise your (terrible) reasoning skills? there is a huge difference between empathy, which is what you described as "a feeling of human thinking," and real psychological theory, which you understand nothing about. psychology is not a black and white science, especially when applied to an individual. if anything, back up your claim with some evidence, besides one person you (claim) was cheating.

    seriously, just drop this and stop coming back every

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Jun 29 2004, 03:01 PM <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Jun 29 2004, 03:22 PM <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    21 minutes to see who else you can try to rebute with your pathetic arguments.
  • Psi57Psi57 Join Date: 2003-08-22 Member: 20067Members
    titanium is a hacker. Well, not a hacker. He didn't write his skills.
  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Ok people are you able to read this?
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>I am happy to provide some fun.
    If you have no real comments, you are still welcome to enjoy a good laugh.

    Don't take me too serious, i just find it quite interesting.
    </span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It is the 3rd time i am posting this same thing so R_E_A_D it please.
    Now do you understand it?
    If yes, stop telling me that i am a bad bad player and just don't know anything about the game, becouse you don't know me.
    If not keep telling me how dumb this thread is.
    Thank you.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->seriously, just drop this and stop coming back every 21 minutes to see who else you can try to rebute with your pathetic arguments.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry this comment is just the worst i ever read. Are you trying to forbid me visiting this thread frequently?

    And again people becouse some of you may forgot it allready.
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I am happy to provide some fun.
    If you have no real comments, you are still welcome to enjoy a good laugh.

    Don't take me too serious, i just find it quite interesting.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    maybe this is all part of his cunning plan to take the heat of himself by accusing all those 'lol' sayers that THEIR response is what a cheat would say, when in fact his response ("u said lol! HAX!") is infact what they would say... ?!

    [disclaimer: i am well aware of the stupidity of this thread and post...]
  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"u said lol! HAX!"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I never say such things, and i never flamed someone i thought he was cheating, just asked them directly (and with no offence!).

    I am getting really tired of posting this same thing over and over again since i posted it on page2, and no one never ever noticed it so here we go again.
    Go go hint.
    <!--QuoteBegin-jumpingjoda on page2+ READ IT!--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jumpingjoda on page2 @ READ IT!)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I am happy to provide some fun.
    If you have no real comments, you are still welcome to enjoy a good laugh.

    Don't take me too serious, i just find it quite interesting.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • PehmoleluPehmolelu Join Date: 2004-05-03 Member: 28424Members, Constellation
    Only hack I have seen many times is speed hack.
    Skulks goes like 5 times faster than normal skulk with celerity...

    lol is very typical answer for people who are just too good. If u r saying they are cheating, it'll just raise their ego. I have been called cheater few times too in my country server. But not by my "own people" but foreigners who joined the server. Usually every time when some foreigner comes to server and says " Peh is cheating he has wallhack " all people who are from same country as I am, will just laugh out laud. After that they usually say too "lol" or something like that and after that the foreigner says they are cheaters too, which will make everybody to die in laugh... Well usually those foreigners leave after that. Well this has happened total 4 times not more (which is good) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    (I'm not meaning that all foreigners are so stupid **** as these were)

    There are just people who are good and skilled. These people hear every skulk movement and see through cloak. Because of these abilities they are called cheaters. I usually can see cloak when I know there is one approaching me. The normal 1 hive skulk die in 9 lmg bullets so if one got very good aim he is able to kill 5 skulks with 1 lmg clip ( best I have seen is 4 ) And with pistol skulk dies in 5 bullets so with lvl 0 pistol is able to kill 2 skulks with 1 hive and with no carapase.
    So its possible to kill total 5+5+2+2+1=15 skulks with 100 lmg ammo and 20 pistol ammo but this is almost impossible ( if u r wondering where that +1 came, it came from lmg bullets... (9*5=45 *2=90 and 100-90 = 10 extra bullets)
    Skilled players kills skulks which came behind corner quite easily because they only need to hit 9 bullets.

    Its hard to know who is really cheating. If some beginner uses some cheats he usually is just as good as the skilled ones.

    If i had some errors or something which wasnt correct in my text please forgive my errors (Cause im not 100% that skulk die thingy)
  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have been called cheater few times too in my country server<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So am i.
    [hint]I am not a novice, how manny times should i say that? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> [/hint]

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->There are just people who are good and skilled. These people hear every skulk movement and see through cloak. Because of these abilities they are called cheaters. I usually can see cloak when I know there is one approaching me.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't know why some pople overhear a skulk movement or can't spot a cloeaked alien... even an onos <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->.... Those are just basics but somehow manny people don't bother.

    And i know that it's technicaly possible to kill alot with the lmg and a pistol.
    But let me discribe the situation i mentioned in the first post.
    After geting whole team nuked by you-know-who we decided to crush him by attacking from various directions. One attacked from his right one from front and i was sneaking behind him. i started before them, becouse i was slower while sneaking. And that guy didn't bother to look behind him or whatever, just standing there like a tree.
    So when i was near enough my teammates rushed at him he took out the right guy first, i was still sneaking as he turned around and shot me (i was nearer then the front guy) like he saw me before, which was imposible. He turned around again and landed few pistol bullets into the last one. He didn't move one inch all the time. I don't know but i usually prefer some manoeuvre while shooting 3 skulks...
  • UKchaosUKchaos Join Date: 2002-08-10 Member: 1132Members
    Even if your theory is 100% correct, giving cheaters any kind of response just gives them more attention than they deserve.
  • keep_it_Gangstakeep_it_Gangsta Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17632Members
    I used to be, hmm lets just say, quite able to play CS <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Anyway I used to get accused of cheating all the time, and usually my response would be "lol".

    Wallhacks and Aimbots are very rare these days (NS and CS)

    However more poeple have learnt to "fiddle" their rates to give them an advantages, ex_interp aswell, or did they lock that now?
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-NGE+Jun 29 2004, 07:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NGE @ Jun 29 2004, 07:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If a + b = c then c - b must = A
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    NGE - This is most ironic because you managed to get it wrong. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Incidentally, if ever I'm accused of cheating (and I used to be quite a bit, though I doubt it these days) I always answer with 'lol' because it's probably the highest compliment you can get.

    And I'll always reply with 'Yes, I have h4x, ooh, you caught me out.' because it seems to stall more whiners in their tracks. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    - Shockwave
  • CerebralCerebral Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17689Members
  • KaMiKaZe1KaMiKaZe1 Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9196Members
    Too lazy to read all four pages, so I'll just reply to the original poster:

    I get accused of hacking in nearly every game I play, routinely having scores better then the example you gave, and if someone wants to accuse me of hacking based solely on my score, I will "lol" at them.

    Hackusations are just flattery, though an annoying form of flattery. There are people who have played this game for 5-12 hours a day for the past year and a half, and they are that good.

    Don't get me wrong, there <i>are</i> hackers out there. If you seriously think someone is hacking, spec him for a few games, view the demos at quarter speed, and if you think without a doubt that he is hacking, inform an admin and present him with the evidence.
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