This Is Sad.

Ezeard · July 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">Things to hate.</div> Well I just finnished a game and in that game I encountered a marine hacker <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' />

It really really ruined the experience. I am really worried about it, how many of you have encountered hackers, and how often? I really want to get into this game but I don't want to waste my time if it's just going to fill up with hackers like Counter-strike did. I know NS won't be getting VAC support because it's simply too complicated, and I'm not sure if CD is working well, I'm not seeing it alot on Steam. What do you guys think?

Snidely · July 2004

How was he hacking? Aimbot?

Zek · July 2004

And you knew he was a hacker, how?

ktimekiller · July 2004

cd works on this game well, there are a few serers with cd only, besides u rarely see any hackers, but maybe scripters, but that doesnt count, they are noobs

Xiile · July 2004

Were you <i>sure</i> it was a hacker?

Ezeard · July 2004

I am positive he was aimbotting/wallhacking. He was attacking one of our RT's and there was 5 of us, skulks. We ran on the roof towards the node, he stopped attacking it before he could hear us, turn they corner and instantly aimed at us on the ceiling. He killed all 5 of us in about 5 seconds.

I want to test him so I went back to the node, but I didn't want to attack him, I just sat there, yet again he stopped attacking it, and turned the corner to shoot at me, so I ran and he followed. I then turned the corner and climbed up the 4 doorway in the current hallway and waitied on the roof over the door way. He came exactly to my location and as soon as he came under the door I was waiting at, he looked right up at me and shot me.

Note, as soon as he stopped shooting, we we're dead. The exact timing of autoshoot.

MamboKing · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ktimekiller @ Jul 2 2004, 06:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> cd works on this game well, there are a few serers with cd only, besides u rarely see any hackers, but maybe scripters, but that doesnt count, they are noobs  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Your first statement discredits the second one nicely.

SaltzBad · July 2004

Well, did you demo it?

Otherwise, we'll just have to assume he had experience/MT. Hearing range is pretty high, so I doubt 5 of you managed to approach absolutely silently.

Soylent_green · July 2004

Also, hearing range on A3D sound cards is higher due to bugs. Sadly VALVe have not fixed this allthough it's been in for a long time. Unless you acctually bothered spectating him going to all the trouble of starting a thread about it seems like such a waste.

Ezeard · July 2004

Let's just say you know one when you see one. I'm pretty sure all of you have experienced something that is unreal and you know right away what it is. Not only that, I had about 8 other players complaining, even players from the same team! Many left the game, so what does that tell you? His score was 29-0 5 minutes into the game.

3v1I_HhN · July 2004

i dunno but he might of just been using motion tracking but about the aiming, i have see loads of pplz using aim scripts
thire bullets randomly go in a perfectly straight line towards the target even if teir aim is not perfectly on them, i dunno if this is what u r talking about but i see that often when spectating

PS

HACKERS = n00I3ZoI2Z <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' />

Lumberjack_Wannabe · July 2004

aim scripts ftw!!!11oneone

seriously... there is no such thing as an aim script...

Xyth · July 2004

I've been playing NS for awhile, and only ever encountered 2 hackers(or crackers if you will), which it was actually the same guy both times. He was speed hacking, and it was really, really, REALLY blatant. As in he ran around the entire level in under 10 seconds and destroyed our cc+tf in about 15 as skulk. Both of which were at full health btw.

So he might actually just be that good. Once you learn how to aim with the LMG it's actually pretty easy to drop multiple skulks at long distance. And as for seeing where you were, it was probably motion tracking.

Lito · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (3v1I_H@hN @ Jul 2 2004, 07:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i dunno but he might of just been using motion tracking but about the aiming, i have see loads of pplz using aim scripts
thire bullets randomly go in a perfectly straight line towards the target even if teir aim is not perfectly on them, i dunno if this is what u r talking about but i see that often when spectating

PS

HACKERS = n00I3ZoI2Z <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
What you're describing is a delay between when the bullet is drawn and when it is actually fired. That is not hacking, and is displayed for ANY marine you spectate while he is shooting.

Ajurian · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ezeard @ Jul 2 2004, 07:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> His score was 29-0 5 minutes into the game.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
That pretty much rules out motion tracking. (Comm coulda motion rushed tho)

Amped1 · July 2004

This thread is pointless and will likely be locked. This post is useless and was likely just to increase my post count.

IceBaron · July 2004

I have never seen an aimbot in ns. Well, not one that I know to be an aimbot anyways. There are alot of people that simply will not miss you. Doesn't mean they hack. And hiding above a door, even without motion tracking, expect for experienced players to kill you there every time.

AvengerX · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zek @ Jul 2 2004, 06:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> And you knew he was a hacker, how?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
because he had more kills then deaths of course, anyone who can do that is a hacker

Talesin · July 2004

This thread is pointless. Without a demo, you have no evidence. With a demo, these forums would not be the proper place to take it. Contact the server admins in the future; don't post it here.

<span style='color:red'>*LOCKED.*</span>

This Is Sad.

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