[mrel] Starship Troopers Arachnid Mouth

Evil_Ice · July 2004

Ok, yeah, so I hardly did any work for this, except for alot of optimising and a bit of reassigning the textures to the mandibles, but I felt it was necessary, because I do love my Arachnid skulk replacement so dearly, and even more so the red backed reskin... anyway here's a picture, it just replaces the skulk mouth, no new animations, but I just HAD to have it to go with my skulk, and I finally got my **** and did it...
<img src='http://clanrra.com/uploads/NSBugMouth01.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Poly Count: a whopping 846... optimised alot <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

<u><b>Credits:</b></u>

original arachnid model: Schimmel (I love you for this Schimmel)
redback reskin: RhaAL
animations: NS team
hack: Ice (aka "Evil_Ice")

Clickey meh linkey:
<a href='http://clanrra.com/files/models/NSBugMouth.zip' target='_blank'>http://clanrra.com/files/models/NSBugMouth.zip</a>

it's not that great or original, but I felt it had to be done, and since I haven't done any NS replacements before, I thought this would be a good place to start...
also for a good 5 minute laugh, click this:
<a href='http://shakeass.ytmnd.com/' target='_blank'>http://shakeass.ytmnd.com/</a>

Shinzon · July 2004

great job <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /> will certanly complete the ST pack... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' />

Ratonetwothreetwoone · July 2004

heh someone/you should make the onos one use its mouth and the zergling one use its clawys... could be nifty even tho i dont use the models

scubasteve3465 · July 2004

ohhh man this is nice. you rock all we need now is a good weapon pack. i no we have i think one or two but i want a <b><u>"GOOD"</u></b> weapons pack. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

StarStarGrizzly · July 2004

I think that its pretty good, but I just dont like how it bites...the two pincer thingies or w/e for the teeth. It just seems bizarre. However if I used the arachnid model I would use it, as it is better than the other one I've seen some around here. BTW low poly isnt a bad thing. My own default skulk model is 700 somethin. GG celeron <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />

MilitaryPolice · July 2004

that will help set the atmosphere

Dark_Soul · July 2004

sweet, good work

Sewlek · July 2004

* added to the pack in next release

DragonMech · July 2004

Awesome! Make sure you add it to the official release topic.

Evil_Ice · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Schimmel @ Jul 10 2004, 10:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> * added to the pack in next release  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Schimmel I love for the arachnid release <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
if you actually approve of it yourself, I can go back and make a much better one, reanimated and what not, since this one is pathetically tossed onto the default bones <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

al_gorge · July 2004

<a href='http://www.nsarmslab.com/details/NSBugMouth.zip' target='_blank'>Mirrored and is great ingame</a>

Evil_Ice · July 2004

sweet, thanky <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
btw, nsarmslab rules

Necrosis · July 2004

Sweet job. You should consider doing Onos ones for the oversized Onos bug that was released.

That'd be a wee bit trickier but I've thread which should help you with the problem of "which animation plays where"

Evil_Ice · July 2004

but the bugs never ate their victims while they were trying to spawn... stupid onos... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /> DIE!!!!
they just kinda chewed up into pieces or cut em up from what I remember
there needs to be more ST bug models like that green "hopper" flying arachnid for the lerk, and like the brainbug for the hive, and the gorge could be one of those transport beetles... that carried the brainbug.. I guess... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Obst · July 2004

Which would be unimportant to him, because he just assigned the to the model and didn't do any anims <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />
So I guess he wouldn't do new anims for the Onos, neither <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

Evil_Ice · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obst & Gemuese @ Jul 10 2004, 07:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Which would be unimportant to him, because he just assigned the to the model and didn't do any anims <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />
So I guess he wouldn't do new anims for the Onos, neither <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
owwie... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />
you underestimate me my friend, I can animate, but I am just not always as willing as I should be, but more importantly, I can =P
Yes, this is just a hack job on the default bones and what not, but I just felt like doing something quick to get myself introduced into the forums, nothing like my more complex releases for FireArms mod... nothing like this:
<img src='http://clanrra.com/uploads/NCSshot11.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
or
<img src='http://clanrra.com/uploads/BowSShot05.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
or
<img src='http://clanrra.com/uploads/TRIGUN28.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<img src='http://clanrra.com/uploads/tc_rubble0002.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
or
<img src='http://clanrra.com/uploads/tc_caen0017.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

ok thats enough... but I have done more, and yes those are all done entirely by myself, model, skin, and animations... but the firearms community is so disrespectful of attempted efforts you know?

BAshh · July 2004

omg that tiny cricket is awesome, release for ns!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

Evil_Ice · July 2004

Well, I'm glad some one responded at least <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />
Yes, that is the "Noisy Cricket" from MIB 1
I made it to replace the M82A1 .50 BMG Barret in FireArms mod, but again, under appreciated <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />
I can bring any and all of these models to NS, but I need some help with the animations, since I don't wanna have to redo my animations just because its a new set of hands <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />

BAshh · July 2004

ah ic. noisy, tiny, close enough. i still want it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> i understand though, it sucks to have to redo animations

DragonMech · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Evil_Ice @ Jul 10 2004, 08:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Well, I'm glad some one responded at least <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Would you also convert Vash's pistol + glasses as well? I'm a huge Trigun fan.

Evil_Ice · July 2004

I too am a Trigun fan, which is why I went through the trouble of making a completely new model, even though like 5 of them already exist, but honestly... I think they all sucked, they models were not only innaccurate to the design of the series, but they were just so ugly looking, but that's why I made mine, and it is very true to the series <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

but seriously... if anyone wants to convert these models some how, I can give you the models, I would but it just seems like so much extra work, that I have already done <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' />
anyway... enough ranting... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

CaptainPanaka · July 2004

<img src='http://clanrra.com/uploads/tc_caen0017.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
hm... I've seen that on the FA forums some time ago and thought of converting it to NS myself. But... I suck <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' />

Would be great to have it in NS, though <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' />

Sewlek · July 2004

anyone is able to finish a skinned brainbug model for Hive? I can send you the files if you PM me.

CaptainPanaka · July 2004

hm... what needs to be done?

Necrosis · July 2004

Would you need to reanimate? Couldn't someone just knock up a set of Firearms compatible bones that use the NS default marine hand model?

That way you'd just need to do minor editing, and it'd be much MUCH easier for people to convert stuff (with the proper permissions, naturally).

BTW its not always a case of just changing the model, the Onos ones are very strange and some animations would just look veerrrry odd if the models were merely replaced.

Brimstone · July 2004

You wouldnt need to reanimate v models at all, just decompile and rename sequences as needed, then recompile, adjusting framerate as needed to preserve the timing... did that a long time ago with a Pulse Rifle originally for CS, had no problems...

Evil_Ice · July 2004

Well, my problem, and primary concern, is in the location of the bone structure, as the FA hand bone structure is the way I prefer, with the primary bones seperate in each arm, and at the beginning of each arm instead of in the wrist, not to mention
"posing" the NS hands onto the default FA hand bones would be no fun at all...

Necrosis · July 2004

It'd be no fun but someone would need to do it, and only do it *once*, and that way virtually every FA model could be converted across.

That, however, is modeller work, and I only casually tinker with animation.

[mrel] Starship Troopers Arachnid Mouth

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