<!--QuoteBegin-Shockwave+Jul 15 2004, 02:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Jul 15 2004, 02:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-surprise+Jul 14 2004, 05:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (surprise @ Jul 14 2004, 05:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ask esuna, he knows about cheats <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes, he accuses me all the time on TS. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Damn straight, that's because you DO hack in TS! I KNOW IT!
EDIT: As for the relevance of NS Devs to stopping cheating in NS, very little of it is to do with them. The most they can really do is fix exploits and cap things such as ROF. For example, the old pistol ROF, or lack thereof.
A lot of cheats are engine hacks, making them universal for all mods, you can't expect the NS Dev team to play any part in this, they don't have access to the full engine code. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Ok first, hacks that work for cs, work for ns. I've never seen aimbot users in ns, mostly ppl use wall hacks.
You can NOT detect a wall hacker while spectating, its veeery easy to not look suspicious at all if you are spectated. I've hacked before in ns, and no one ever called me a hacker when they spectated. Always said : ok, ill take it back, you don't hack! (LOL)
THE best way to catch a hacker is this way...
First, the best way is being a skulk, not a marine(too big, can't hide), not a gorge(always makes sound) Try testing in early game when motion is impossible. Do NOT make any any noise, I'm being called hacker a lot of times because of noise. Do not even walk, you must not give no single chance to prove that you could be wrong. The marine team needs to NEVER have seen you before, don't do this close to start hive.
I usually hide at a very random place, usually on top of a wall, not direct entrance where ppl always look, not classic ambush spots either. I stand there for more than 30 seconds making no noise, not changing weapons, especialy NOT moving...mt could see your movements.
Then, if ever you see a marine enter the room and shoot directly at you without looking anywhere else before, if all the steps are done well, chances are...he's hacking.
Oh and many times, I never killed cloaked skulks hidind when I was hacking...I wonder why...so if he's a smart hacker then he's a lot harder to catch, like i used to be.
This last mont, I've seen more hackers than ever in ns, either clans, good players, or ordinary players that are sick of getteing owned. Stop making demo's while spectating, its useless, trust me.
I don't scream : HAX, at anytime when the guy has a good score, I get 8:1 a lot of the time and I don't hack.
Good luck, and remember hackers, you will never really impress yourself and especialy not me.
Edit/ Oh, I forgot to say, the best hacks NEED cheating death, LOL.
<!--QuoteBegin-[QcBs+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([QcBs)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> THE best way to catch a hacker is this way...
First, the best way is being a skulk, not a marine(too big, can't hide), not a gorge(always makes sound) Try testing in early game when motion is impossible. Do NOT make any any noise, I'm being called hacker a lot of times because of noise. Do not even walk, you must not give no single chance to prove that you could be wrong. The marine team needs to NEVER have seen you before, don't do this close to start hive.
I usually hide at a very random place, usually on top of a wall, not direct entrance where ppl always look, not classic ambush spots either. I stand there for more than 30 seconds making no noise, not changing weapons, especialy NOT moving...mt could see your movements.
Then, if ever you see a marine enter the room and shoot directly at you without looking anywhere else before, if all the steps are done well, chances are...he's hacking.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Shame your methods are entirely flawed.
You're basing your hole 'hackusation' on the fact that they find you even though you make no noise nor move a muscle. That's crap, that really is. Any player worth his or her salt (And also me) will check above doors, vents, little nooks and cranny's in each room looking for a hiding skulk. So by your logic, if i thoroughly check an area for enemy activity, i'm a hacker, right?
While you're doing this, also, see if they say "lol" at all while playing, that's another sure-fire way of spotting a hacker.
Shockeh, i still think you hack in TS, Sonic does too. HACKER!
<!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Jul 16 2004, 01:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Jul 16 2004, 01:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You're basing your hole 'hackusation' on the fact that they find you even though you make no noise nor move a muscle. That's crap, that really is. Any player worth his or her salt (And also me) will check above doors, vents, little nooks and cranny's in each room looking for a hiding skulk. So by your logic, if i thoroughly check an area for enemy activity, i'm a hacker, right? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> his point is that he hides somewhere you normally wouldn't check immediately (for example, <b>not</b> above doors but instead somewhere in the room where a skulk isn't an immediate threat to someone entering) and if someone walks into the room already looking straight at him and prefiring him, they're probably walling
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->but it's very hard as an admin to make a fair call.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not true. It took me about 10-15 seconds to go "oh, that's no bot" spectating Nadagast. I have made, so far as I know, one bad call in relation to hacking, back in 1.04 when I was very new to adminning and you had no first-person. And a big part of that was that I checked the person's ID on the CAL page, and the ID of the person I was spectating was different from the ID on CAL, and my volume was extra low, so when I reviewed the demo later I heard sounds that I was missing the first time.
esuna - titanium's right, that's not a terrible check for a wallhack. Unfortunately it takes just about forever and chances are some other marine will spot you before your target. The fact is that someone making smart use of a wallhack is the one exception to the "hard to make a call" thing. The reality, though, is that most hackers are lazy++++ and are going to be walking around with 180 degree FOV aimbots snapping to targets through walls. The smart hackers are so rare they're just not a problem. On the off chance one happens across the server, he'll just end up as a sort of faux good player, which isn't terrible.
<!--QuoteBegin-[QcBs]God Killer+Jul 16 2004, 01:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([QcBs]God Killer @ Jul 16 2004, 01:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok first, hacks that work for cs, work for ns. I've never seen aimbot users in ns, mostly ppl use wall hacks.
You can NOT detect a wall hacker while spectating, its veeery easy to not look suspicious at all if you are spectated. I've hacked before in ns, and no one ever called me a hacker when they spectated. Always said : ok, ill take it back, you don't hack! (LOL)
THE best way to catch a hacker is this way...
First, the best way is being a skulk, not a marine(too big, can't hide), not a gorge(always makes sound) Try testing in early game when motion is impossible. Do NOT make any any noise, I'm being called hacker a lot of times because of noise. Do not even walk, you must not give no single chance to prove that you could be wrong. The marine team needs to NEVER have seen you before, don't do this close to start hive.
I usually hide at a very random place, usually on top of a wall, not direct entrance where ppl always look, not classic ambush spots either. I stand there for more than 30 seconds making no noise, not changing weapons, especialy NOT moving...mt could see your movements.
Then, if ever you see a marine enter the room and shoot directly at you without looking anywhere else before, if all the steps are done well, chances are...he's hacking.
Oh and many times, I never killed cloaked skulks hidind when I was hacking...I wonder why...so if he's a smart hacker then he's a lot harder to catch, like i used to be.
This last mont, I've seen more hackers than ever in ns, either clans, good players, or ordinary players that are sick of getteing owned. Stop making demo's while spectating, its useless, trust me.
I don't scream : HAX, at anytime when the guy has a good score, I get 8:1 a lot of the time and I don't hack.
Good luck, and remember hackers, you will never really impress yourself and especialy not me.
Edit/ Oh, I forgot to say, the best hacks NEED cheating death, LOL. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That's a decent method, a far better method is to move behind a wall while waking (no noise) and turn on your OWN wallhack, and see if they are following you near perfectly, then that's almost a guarenteed wallhacker.
1) you guys making those "OMG I DONT HAX BELIEVE ME (LOL I AM FUNNY)" jokes are the most disingenuous nerds I've ever seen. Grow up. Stop making fun of an issue some of us are actually concerned about.
<span style='color:white'>Strike one.</span>
2) If you don't have enough self-respect for your ability to play under your own name and take the abuse, you are pathetic. Grow a thicker skin. (I am exempt because I haven't got the kind of ability being talked about in this topic, and thus can smurf all I want)
<span style='color:white'>Strike two.</span>
3)<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't scream : HAX, at anytime when the guy has a good score, I get 8:1 a lot of the time and I don't hack. I've hacked before in ns, and no one ever called me a hacker when they spectated.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Someone should set your face on fire, and put the fire out with a hammer. Also, stop making up stories.
<!--QuoteBegin-Swift Idiot+Jul 16 2004, 03:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swift Idiot @ Jul 16 2004, 03:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> [SIZE=1]1) you guys making those "OMG I DONT HAX BELIEVE ME (LOL I AM FUNNY)" jokes are the most disingenuous nerds I've ever seen. Grow up. Stop making fun of an issue some of us are actually concerned about. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>LOLOL I DONT HACK DONT BAN ME =(</span>
The only hacking I ever saw in NS was a guy who could unload his entire adren's worth of spit in about a second. Most of the "hackers" are just good players, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. If someone is blatantly hacking, then spec them, demo them, and ban their ****. gg
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->a far better method is to move behind a wall while waking (no noise) and turn on your OWN wallhack, and see if they are following you near perfectly, then that's almost a guarenteed wallhacker.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hacking IS the BEST way to find hackers but....anyway
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Someone should set your face on fire, and put the fire out with a hammer. Also, stop making up stories.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow nice way to want to start a flame war.
First, I don't lie, I would feel extremely bad with myself if I did
Ok then I'll attach a pic of one of my 100ish dominating scores...isn't that 23:1, hum I got plenty more if your interrested, then you could change the name to yourself, <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And I would'nt call em nubs, they can bite. And I don't camp, and prefer close combat to give skulks half a chance.
Go ask maverick if he's a nub, I'm sure he'll love it. I don't know about "the dude", hehe. Anyway, this ain't a post to see who's the best, I just hate when someone calls me a liar...I had nothing else to prove.
Some of the cheats that they may sell on <a href='http://planethalflife.com' target='_blank'>Ebay</a> arn't that bad. At least for CS. You could try a money hack where you get 16000 per round. Anyways cheats for NS are bad as long as its not that one cheat that gives you an orange icon by your name.
Guys, calm down, I'm sure he can back this up with what his clan can do because if they're all as good as him then they must be the best clan in the world!
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wow GodKiller you sure have quite a big ego there. Every time I see you post it's about your amazingly elite pub scores and ratios. Congratulations.
Don't own those pubs too hard buddy!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ooookay, did you read just this one post!? This wasn't about ego, or proving anything...read the full post plz
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Guys, calm down, I'm sure he can back this up with what his clan can do because if they're all as good as him then they must be the best clan in the world!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hum, you guys don't know me in person I guess...I'm not like that at all Lets stick with the subject before they close this one too.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Not true. It took me about 10-15 seconds to go "oh, that's no bot" spectating [...]<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There is one thing that I really like about that comment. Most players see a good player (good or hacking), spectate him and base their opinion on what they see. Nobody ever seems to believe a hacker could switch his hack off and *gasp* still be a good player. A hacker can switch hacks off! You don't believe me? It's true! When anti-cheat programs were first introduced many players got "caught" who were suspicious before but once someone watched that player they said "No, he wasn't cheating when I specced him. He never cheats! He never will!".
Remember what I said. Just because someone is not good all the time (or does obviously not see through walls) doesn't mean he never used a cheat or will never use a cheat.
On the topic of anti-cheat programs. VAC is not running on any NS servers. Most NS servers are just that: insecure. Only few servers run Cheating Death. I have seen a few hackers in 1.04 and I saw speed hackers a few weeks ago. I can't tell anything about other hacks because sometimes marines have motion tracking or just decent aim.
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looks like you never pmed me.
not to mention ive been gone for 4+ months.
Shame that never happens aye? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Yes, he accuses me all the time on TS. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Damn straight, that's because you DO hack in TS! I KNOW IT!
EDIT: As for the relevance of NS Devs to stopping cheating in NS, very little of it is to do with them. The most they can really do is fix exploits and cap things such as ROF. For example, the old pistol ROF, or lack thereof.
A lot of cheats are engine hacks, making them universal for all mods, you can't expect the NS Dev team to play any part in this, they don't have access to the full engine code. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Yes, he accuses me all the time on TS. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Damn straight, that's because you DO hack in TS! I KNOW IT!
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
*chuckle*
You can NOT detect a wall hacker while spectating, its veeery easy to not look suspicious at all if you are spectated. I've hacked before in ns, and no one ever called me a hacker when they spectated. Always said : ok, ill take it back, you don't hack! (LOL)
THE best way to catch a hacker is this way...
First, the best way is being a skulk, not a marine(too big, can't hide), not a gorge(always makes sound)
Try testing in early game when motion is impossible.
Do NOT make any any noise, I'm being called hacker a lot of times because of noise.
Do not even walk, you must not give no single chance to prove that you could be wrong.
The marine team needs to NEVER have seen you before, don't do this close to start hive.
I usually hide at a very random place, usually on top of a wall, not direct entrance where ppl always look, not classic ambush spots either. I stand there for more than 30 seconds making no noise, not changing weapons, especialy NOT moving...mt could see your movements.
Then, if ever you see a marine enter the room and shoot directly at you without looking anywhere else before, if all the steps are done well, chances are...he's hacking.
Oh and many times, I never killed cloaked skulks hidind when I was hacking...I wonder why...so if he's a smart hacker then he's a lot harder to catch, like i used to be.
This last mont, I've seen more hackers than ever in ns, either clans, good players, or ordinary players that are sick of getteing owned. Stop making demo's while spectating, its useless, trust me.
I don't scream : HAX, at anytime when the guy has a good score, I get 8:1 a lot of the time and I don't hack.
Good luck, and remember hackers, you will never really impress yourself and especialy not me.
Edit/ Oh, I forgot to say, the best hacks NEED cheating death, LOL.
THE best way to catch a hacker is this way...
First, the best way is being a skulk, not a marine(too big, can't hide), not a gorge(always makes sound)
Try testing in early game when motion is impossible.
Do NOT make any any noise, I'm being called hacker a lot of times because of noise.
Do not even walk, you must not give no single chance to prove that you could be wrong.
The marine team needs to NEVER have seen you before, don't do this close to start hive.
I usually hide at a very random place, usually on top of a wall, not direct entrance where ppl always look, not classic ambush spots either. I stand there for more than 30 seconds making no noise, not changing weapons, especialy NOT moving...mt could see your movements.
Then, if ever you see a marine enter the room and shoot directly at you without looking anywhere else before, if all the steps are done well, chances are...he's hacking.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Shame your methods are entirely flawed.
You're basing your hole 'hackusation' on the fact that they find you even though you make no noise nor move a muscle. That's crap, that really is. Any player worth his or her salt (And also me) will check above doors, vents, little nooks and cranny's in each room looking for a hiding skulk. So by your logic, if i thoroughly check an area for enemy activity, i'm a hacker, right?
While you're doing this, also, see if they say "lol" at all while playing, that's another sure-fire way of spotting a hacker.
Shockeh, i still think you hack in TS, Sonic does too. HACKER!
his point is that he hides somewhere you normally wouldn't check immediately (for example, <b>not</b> above doors but instead somewhere in the room where a skulk isn't an immediate threat to someone entering) and if someone walks into the room already looking straight at him and prefiring him, they're probably walling
hacker B<
Not true. It took me about 10-15 seconds to go "oh, that's no bot" spectating Nadagast. I have made, so far as I know, one bad call in relation to hacking, back in 1.04 when I was very new to adminning and you had no first-person. And a big part of that was that I checked the person's ID on the CAL page, and the ID of the person I was spectating was different from the ID on CAL, and my volume was extra low, so when I reviewed the demo later I heard sounds that I was missing the first time.
esuna - titanium's right, that's not a terrible check for a wallhack. Unfortunately it takes just about forever and chances are some other marine will spot you before your target. The fact is that someone making smart use of a wallhack is the one exception to the "hard to make a call" thing. The reality, though, is that most hackers are lazy++++ and are going to be walking around with 180 degree FOV aimbots snapping to targets through walls. The smart hackers are so rare they're just not a problem. On the off chance one happens across the server, he'll just end up as a sort of faux good player, which isn't terrible.
edit: I hate you, swear filter.
You can NOT detect a wall hacker while spectating, its veeery easy to not look suspicious at all if you are spectated. I've hacked before in ns, and no one ever called me a hacker when they spectated. Always said : ok, ill take it back, you don't hack! (LOL)
THE best way to catch a hacker is this way...
First, the best way is being a skulk, not a marine(too big, can't hide), not a gorge(always makes sound)
Try testing in early game when motion is impossible.
Do NOT make any any noise, I'm being called hacker a lot of times because of noise.
Do not even walk, you must not give no single chance to prove that you could be wrong.
The marine team needs to NEVER have seen you before, don't do this close to start hive.
I usually hide at a very random place, usually on top of a wall, not direct entrance where ppl always look, not classic ambush spots either. I stand there for more than 30 seconds making no noise, not changing weapons, especialy NOT moving...mt could see your movements.
Then, if ever you see a marine enter the room and shoot directly at you without looking anywhere else before, if all the steps are done well, chances are...he's hacking.
Oh and many times, I never killed cloaked skulks hidind when I was hacking...I wonder why...so if he's a smart hacker then he's a lot harder to catch, like i used to be.
This last mont, I've seen more hackers than ever in ns, either clans, good players, or ordinary players that are sick of getteing owned. Stop making demo's while spectating, its useless, trust me.
I don't scream : HAX, at anytime when the guy has a good score, I get 8:1 a lot of the time and I don't hack.
Good luck, and remember hackers, you will never really impress yourself and especialy not me.
Edit/ Oh, I forgot to say, the best hacks NEED cheating death, LOL. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's a decent method, a far better method is to move behind a wall while waking (no noise) and turn on your OWN wallhack, and see if they are following you near perfectly, then that's almost a guarenteed wallhacker.
<span style='color:white'>Strike one.</span>
2) If you don't have enough self-respect for your ability to play under your own name and take the abuse, you are pathetic. Grow a thicker skin. (I am exempt because I haven't got the kind of ability being talked about in this topic, and thus can smurf all I want)
<span style='color:white'>Strike two.</span>
3)<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't scream : HAX, at anytime when the guy has a good score, I get 8:1 a lot of the time and I don't hack. I've hacked before in ns, and no one ever called me a hacker when they spectated.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Someone should set your face on fire, and put the fire out with a hammer. Also, stop making up stories.
<span style='color:white'>Strike three.</span>
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<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>LOLOL I DONT HACK DONT BAN ME =(</span>
Hacking IS the BEST way to find hackers but....anyway
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Someone should set your face on fire, and put the fire out with a hammer. Also, stop making up stories.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow nice way to want to start a flame war.
First, I don't lie, I would feel extremely bad with myself if I did
Ok then I'll attach a pic of one of my 100ish dominating scores...isn't that 23:1, hum
I got plenty more if your interrested, then you could change the name to yourself, <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And I would'nt call em nubs, they can bite. And I don't camp, and prefer close combat to give skulks half a chance.
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Those dont look like default models, guy.
Those dont look like default models, guy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>ILLEGAL</span>
Don't own those pubs too hard buddy!
Don't own those pubs too hard buddy!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ooookay, did you read just this one post!?
This wasn't about ego, or proving anything...read the full post plz
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Guys, calm down, I'm sure he can back this up with what his clan can do because if they're all as good as him then they must be the best clan in the world!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hum, you guys don't know me in person I guess...I'm not like that at all
Lets stick with the subject before they close this one too.
There is one thing that I really like about that comment. Most players see a good player (good or hacking), spectate him and base their opinion on what they see. Nobody ever seems to believe a hacker could switch his hack off and *gasp* still be a good player. A hacker can switch hacks off! You don't believe me? It's true! When anti-cheat programs were first introduced many players got "caught" who were suspicious before but once someone watched that player they said "No, he wasn't cheating when I specced him. He never cheats! He never will!".
Remember what I said. Just because someone is not good all the time (or does obviously not see through walls) doesn't mean he never used a cheat or will never use a cheat.
On the topic of anti-cheat programs. VAC is not running on any NS servers. Most NS servers are just that: insecure. Only few servers run Cheating Death.
I have seen a few hackers in 1.04 and I saw speed hackers a few weeks ago. I can't tell anything about other hacks because sometimes marines have motion tracking or just decent aim.
Enjoy your vacations, folks!