Countering Skulks

colt45 · November 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">using a trailer</div> Ive found a good tactic to counter skulks is to have a marine "trail" the main group. In most cases, a skulk can run circles around the group of marines chomping away and the marines can only turn and get a glimpse of him. Lately when we are moving to a spot, i trail the group and when a skulk bounces us i have a clean and open shot at it. Having a trailer also helps with those surprise attacks from the rear because then those cloaked fades can only get one instead of hurting the whole group before being found.

Tactician · November 2002

This sounds good. Marines need to remember that ambushing and other tactics are not exclusive to aliens. Most marines I see stand out in the open and make themselves targets. It could be beneficial to wait around a corner and ambush an alien rather than let him see you and rush you. That is a neg if you're parasited.

Inexorable · November 2002

Unfortunately waiting around a corner takes away the marines biggest advantage: Range.

m4rine · November 2002

Yes, if you peek around the corner and see a helpless litle skulk standing there or doing sumthing and he is a distance away you have the advantage and if you a good shot (or lucky) the most he can do is parasite you (wich could be bad depending where you are in the game)

padijun · November 2002

The problem is the guy covering your **obscenity** is kind of screwed if he gets rushed from behind.

Tactician · November 2002

If you hear your trailer die, you can whip around and blast the skulk. He just takes one for the team.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'> >--kill--> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> >--kill--> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'>

UGLJon · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tactician @ Nov 6 2002, 08:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>If you hear your trailer die, you can whip around and blast the skulk. He just takes one for the team.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'> >--kill--> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> >--kill--> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Friendly fire!!!!

Tabris · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tactician @ Nov 6 2002, 08:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>This sounds good. Marines need to remember that ambushing and other tactics are not exclusive to aliens. Most marines I see stand out in the open and make themselves targets. It could be beneficial to wait around a corner and ambush an alien rather than let him see you and rush you. That is a neg if you're parasited.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
really too bad we aliens have a built in wallhack.... the other guy is right... distance is your weapon.

Mercior · November 2002

To a degree I agree Tabris, but I've found that crouching in the dark as a marine when you hear a nearby alien and the blasting them as they walk past can actually work very well.. The aliens never expect to be ambushed <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

DaRkObi · November 2002

lol i agree surpise the god damned **obscenity** <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'>

LiquidFusion · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Inexorable @ Nov 6 2002, 11:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Unfortunately waiting around a corner takes away the marines biggest advantage: Range.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
This guy is smart. And tab is my buddy we know whats up when it comes to aliens. RAR!
Funny thing...sometimes us aliens use "bait" see that trailer guy? well while you're shooting the one skulk the other 2 are chomping your ankles to death.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'> RAR! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'>

Hayduke · November 2002

yeah not so sure about this "trailer" idea. It makes sense in theory, but in practice a skulk would just take him out and run. It certainly happens to me when I trail behind the group by accident.

Ahnteis · November 2002

When you're in your base, hop on top of your buildings if you're on anti-rush duty.
It's harder for them to jump up there and kill you then it is for them to eat the meatpops on the ground.

ianski · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ahnteis @ Nov 8 2002, 03:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>When you're in your base, hop on top of your buildings if you're on anti-rush duty.
It's harder for them to jump up there and kill you then it is for them to eat the meatpops on the ground.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Definately. Nothing worse than being an Onos in the middle of the base and there's one marine with a HMG sitting on the ammo dispenser going pop pop pop and i can't do diddly. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'>

BugHunt · November 2002

Yep.. got driven off twice as an Onos today because the marines guarding the outpost I was attacking did that.. it's a smart move really.

Unknown · November 2002

I love deliberately having no ammo in the clip and getting it back instantly with the ammo dispenser to pump another 400 rounds into an onos <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tiny.gif'>

Venmoch · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ahnteis @ Nov 8 2002, 08:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>When you're in your base, hop on top of your buildings if you're on anti-rush duty.
It's harder for them to jump up there and kill you then it is for them to eat the meatpops on the ground.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Now why didn't I think of that?

zoda · November 2002

great idea, but dont forget cloak... The guy could stand there and everyone walks by him, even the trailer.

guagle · November 2002

And don't forget silence either, or your trailer will get eaten and nobody will turn around.

Injury · November 2002

Silence and Celerity also come into play, as a Marine I depend primarily on my ears instead of my eyes to hear incoming aliens. You'll often hear the tap tapping of a Skulk moving into position and a decent Marine player will always warn his squad over voicecom that there's an alien nearby. Silence puts a huge damper on this and lowers Marine effectiveness by more than most people would think. Celerity at its highest level will blaze through Marine lines like a rabbit on crack, with high speed as a Skulk, Marines may hear your coming but if they can't hit you.

Typically when I play I take point and enter rooms first, always making sure everyone isn't trying to squeeze in through the doorway at once (which could mean death for the entire squad). Taking one for the team is fine by me, so long as my team makes the offending alien take one for theirs. Range is a luxury at most times since Skulks ambush you left and right, when you don't have that option, I usually switch to pistol and blast the alien in close quarters. Unfortunately, the pistol seems so very underestimated. It has great accuracy and damage, the fire rate can be easily controlled as well, enabling ammunition conservatives to be able to direct precise shots. Takes out Skulks faster than you think..

I, too run like a sissy sometimes. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Countering Skulks

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