Ns Is Not A Clone!
Cyborgguineapig
Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3233Members
Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3233Members
It has been stated over and over by forum veterans to noobs that NS is not a clone of Starcraft, AVP, or the similiar. NS is a thing of its own and doesn't need features like acid blood and all this other game(s) material to be fun. A Skulk is in no way a "Zerg" simply because NS is not related to starcraft. The suggestion and ideas forum is great for ideas but lets try to make ORIGINAL ideas. For one I would feel a bit dissapointed if my original idea towards a mod was pushed over by a common reference to another game or already thoughtup idea taken from some popular game. In other words giving something a name that it is not. Thats like calling a corvette a mustang. I don't know why exactly but this stupid thing aggrivates me as that there will always be those new to the game who just craves something from another game that inspired them. I also do realize that some of the people joining on these forums are younger than I am and they may not think the way I do or they just don't realize that NS tries to be different. Aside from the fact that there are many "alien" featured movies, books, and games in our lives.
Maybe its just me but I feel like our race is becoming unnoriginal. But then again, what is original?
Am I wrong for posting this. I feel like I want to defend NS's originality and creativity.
Maybe its just me but I feel like our race is becoming unnoriginal. But then again, what is original?
Am I wrong for posting this. I feel like I want to defend NS's originality and creativity.
Comments
On topic, I agree this mod is very original. If you think otherwise your opinion is <b>wrong</b>.
Cars ... inflenced by... carrages... inspired by... horses......
etc... etc..
Every great idea has roots in past ideas... IT DOESNT MEAN THEY ARE THE SAME THING.
Tolkien created a concrete vison of elves, dwarves, goblins.... but you dont see poeple calling everquest, legend, other fantasy movies... just CLONES
I keep expecting to see Gene stealers from Space Hulk (minatures game) come rushing out.. Even if that is what the Fades remind me of (without the extra set of arms. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> ). Or even Kryomek (another minatures game)
Take care all
LS
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Tolkien is the God, he **obscenity** created it, gave it shape, gave it life, GAVE IT EVERYTHING
_You_ can not touch Tolkien, and MonsE and Flayra, are the Tolkien's of the HL Modification World
As far as Gloom, and StarCraft, and the reference someone told me to how you could do level changing through a system other then menu's back in Quake 2 or something, I don't care, NS is a wonderful creation, just that, a creation, not a clone or a rip
Oh wait, everyone who writes about anything Fantasy style is ripping off from Tolkien right? And Startrek and StarWars had to have some ripping in their right? I mean come on, ITS SPACE! O M G THEY BOTH HAVE LASERS AND GIGANTIC SHIPS! THIEVES!
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Tolkien didn't invent Elves or Dwarves, but he was familiar with northern and greek mythology. He was original because he wrote a book in a style no one else had used before.
Sure, the skulk reminds one of a zergling, but it they aren't identical, so it's not a clone. NS is original because it combines the game mechanics of other games to create an unique gameplay experience, not because it invented those mechanics or the idea of humans fighting non-humans.
An original game is a game that plays different, not looks different.
If you ask me, I would say :
An Onos strongly resembles a Zerg Ultralisk, not in appearance, but as in the role, except for its Primal Rage(or was it Primal Scream?) ability.
Lerk's Umbra Mist strongly resembles a toned down version of the Zerg Deflier's Dark Swarm.
Lerk's Gas Spores kinda resembles a toned down version of the Zerg Deflier's Plague.
At lastly,
IMO,
Natural Selection is a Real Time Strategy Game with heavy zone control elements in it, except that it is played out in 1st person mode, and each of the units are controled by invididual players.
ppl give out ideas of acid blood and stuff because its cool, if you want it to be totaly original then it shouldnt have all the weapons it has, teleporting pads, collecting resources to build stuff and some others.
Oh and i think Necro was joking
Don't make me list the hundreds of new features - I need my lunch hour. Commander mode alone is about 80 new features...
It would just get ugly, and I would start going on about how Gloom ripped off team fortress (9 classes that match up very closely to start). I was playing TF since most of you were in lower grade school.
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Not that im boored with NS as it is right now, just imaganing how to expand the gameplay.
For anyone who doesnt know, SpaceHulk has indeed a lot of things in common with the world of NS. The missions were usually about boarding great ol hulks of spaceships (hence the name) to just exterminate the alien presance, blow something up and get out Fast or retreat from infested vessels.
One nice way to make something like this in NS could be having the marine team spawning with limited resources and weapons, and having the aliens spawn as ither skulk or lerk. Marine team with a commander (No Commcenter to protect, though) have a specific task to perform, and the aliens try to stop them. as maines are killed, they spawn as aliens (No CS waiting)....
Just something id like to see some day... no rush... Can rules like theese be put into a map or is this a whole new ballgame? any mappers know?
Anyways, just an idea triggerd by old memories about cardboardsheets with tiny plastic figures on them and a lots and lots of rulebooks <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->