Discrimination On The Fourms

Scientist_LawsuitScientist_Lawsuit Join Date: 2004-07-29 Member: 30244Banned
edited July 2004 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Lawsuit Posibility...</div> Natural Selection a mod for the game Half-Life was a group of people who decided to create a truely unique mod. It has its successes and failures. Some say that combat ruined it all. The leader of this mod, Flayra has formed a company called Unknown Worlds Entertainment. It is looking for investors. For future investors please research on not just how "talanted" this company is, but also consider if this team deserves your investments.

Recently an individual has tested how your company and employees (an employee is an employee and it is not revelant if he or she gets paied). A person named with the account "ANTI-FEDERALIST" was terminated by your employee Nemesis Zero. Today he posted under 10 posts and can hardly be considered spamming. In your active posters part of the fourm it lists an individal who I shall not name who has a total of fourty (40) posts.

Descrimination is discrimination. It is wrong to discriminate based on race, sex, religion, sexal preference and also mental or physical disabilites. In this case it is the mental disabilities part that your compan violated. Some of the posts may be considered humerous or (excuse the language) retarded to your fourm moderators. Although I don't see why the topic in "Off topic" about the election would be offensive. The main point was stated that the Democrats should win dispite some of the information flaws contained in the post. To clear this up the election is in 2004 and not 2005. Everyone who can vote should vote so that is why I want to clear up that the election is in 2004 and not 2005.

Based on the termination I will ask what were the motives. We need a solid reason and not from hastly low level employees. Any employee no matter where they are on the corporate ladder can and may cause the downfall of a company or corporation.

The client's posts can be considered "retarded" (again excuse the language and terminology although wrong) or mentally unstable. He posted his feelings and for that he was "Banned," so I ask you why your company acts this way on posts that are kind of different from the "norm".

This is not the first time this has happened here.

Thank you for your time moderators and higher up employees of Unknown Worlds Entertainment.

Comments

  • camO_ocamO_o Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28028Members
    snipermarine, you are not funny. you are not convincing anyone. you need a doctor, not a lawyer. god help you.
  • SmoodCrooznSmoodCroozn Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22310Members
    You are going to file a lawsuit because someone got banned? This is what I am interpreting based on your post. First of all, I would suggest you or your supposed client look around the website before posting. If you looked carefully enough you would stumble onto the FAQs:

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=35' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...hp?showtopic=35</a>

    Read this carefully and your "client" might have avoided bannage. Giving punishments based on rules is not discrimination, it's just how things work everywhere.
  • Scientist_LawsuitScientist_Lawsuit Join Date: 2004-07-29 Member: 30244Banned
    Also I shall point out that places like parks and shopping centers are required to provide the accomindations that are entilted to people with disabilities. For instance parking slots. It applies here. Banning this "ANTI-FEDERALIST" does not go under the codes of conduct for companies.
  • Scientist_LawsuitScientist_Lawsuit Join Date: 2004-07-29 Member: 30244Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-SmoodCroozn+Jul 29 2004, 09:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmoodCroozn @ Jul 29 2004, 09:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You are going to file a lawsuit because someone got banned? This is what I am interpreting based on your post. First of all, I would suggest you or your supposed client look around the website before posting. If you looked carefully enough you would stumble onto the FAQs:

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=35' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...hp?showtopic=35</a>

    Read this carefully and your "client" might have avoided bannage. Giving punishments based on rules is not discrimination, it's just how things work everywhere. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Please tell me what part of that page has been violated? under 10 posts today is not "spamming" compared to the 40 that was posted. Mental difficulties may not and should not be discriminated.
  • SmoodCrooznSmoodCroozn Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22310Members
    edited July 2004
    Can't wait until Nem sees this, o boy...

    What part of the page was violated? Read this:

    3. <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Ideas go in the Ideas forum</span>, Mapping questions and pictures go in the Mapping forum. The other forums have their own purposes as well. This means that Ideas about new Mapping tools/entities/func's/whathaveyou go in the Ideas forum, not the Mapping forum! Your posts will be moved otherwise!

    Though an exception could be made if a really well thought out idea could be placed in public beta discussion... Nem allows it.
  • NessNess Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10935Members, Reinforced - Onos
    SniperMarine, have you still managed not to realise that every attempt at a point you make just backfires in your face?
  • TekdudeTekdude Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15455Members, Constellation, Forum staff
    edited July 2004
    There are certain organizations that ARE allowed to remove people or not allow people in if they want. They are clubs, with members. And... these forums are based on a members system. Therefore, these forums can be considered a club type organization. People can be removed from clubs for not following rules, or just because the management of the club doesn't want them. I know there is a club near me that doesn't allow black people or hispanics to join. Why is this allowed? Because it's a club. Your case has no merit.
  • VampMasterVampMaster Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14585Members
    edited July 2004
    Actually, this forum is a private property and the administration have all rights to do what they want to anyone in anyway they want to... (edit to above post) You are totally right, and these clubs have the right to do this because they are private clubs and not public places, therefore the laws that applies to public places doesn't apply to them and they can kick you out just because they don't like the color of your shirt if they want to!

    Past that fact... Yes I know it's fake <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->... And when nem sees this... all hell breaks loose.
  • TekdudeTekdude Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15455Members, Constellation, Forum staff
    Yes, I just realized that and fixed it. Thankyou for changing the subject.
  • Scientist_LawsuitScientist_Lawsuit Join Date: 2004-07-29 Member: 30244Banned
    edited July 2004
    That is why I have not taken action until now. The team behind NS has formed a company. Therefore they do not apply to that "freedom."

    For future note please do not get involved if you are not associated with Unknown Worlds Entertainment.
  • VampMasterVampMaster Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14585Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Scientist Lawsuit+Jul 29 2004, 09:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scientist Lawsuit @ Jul 29 2004, 09:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That is why I have not taken action until now. The team behind NS has formed a company. Therefore they do not apply to that "freedom."

    For future note please do not get involved if you are not associated with UWE. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Then take it with "associates" of UWE only...

    And legal actions will just make you look like a fool to the judge <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->...

    PS:yeah I still know it's fake.
  • SalvationSalvation Join Date: 2003-11-21 Member: 23300Members
    i hope nem bans you <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited July 2004
    ANTI-FEDRALIST:

    The reason you were banned is because none of your posts made any sense. They were either viewed as attempts at trolling, spam, or both. I wouldn't be suprised personally if you were just waiting for a ban so you could start this whole little issue up. In fact, we've had this before.

    I'd be willing to bet, mister scientist, that you are not only ANTI-FEDRALIST ban evading, but you are somehow related to scooter-blue's little crusade aginst these forums, which means you are not only ban evading, but you are blatantly trolling these forums, which are both aginst the rules.


    Regardless of this man's identity, however, the worst thing you can do to a troll, you know, is ignore him.


    So, let's ignore him.
  • Bait_BoyBait_Boy Join Date: 2004-05-14 Member: 28672Members
    Ah America, where you can sue for a forum banning, what a place <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Hologram0Hologram0 Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9303Members, Constellation
    LOL...

    That is funny... I hope this is a parody... Other wise Im going to have to borrow a word and call it retarted...

    The reason malls require accessable parking has to do with thier bussiness classification, and public property...

    This is the same as this situation:
    An individual with a disablility walks into the store and takes something with out paying for it, a mistake, he forgot he had it, after all it is very possible that his disablity happend to contribute... This individual is not charged, but banned from entering the store in order to help reduce the chances that it may happen again and the company suffer losses.

    This individual broke a rule and was dealt with accordingly, if you do not like it leave.
  • NessNess Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10935Members, Reinforced - Onos
    This fellow also goes under the name SniperMarine. He actually came into #ns and explained that all of his idiocy and trolling through his various accounts he evaded bans with was done to test UWE. I don't really know how it works out, since I'm pretty sure UWE didn't even exist when he was first banned, but whatever. It's a bit obsessive, and more than a bit pathetic, but it's also pretty entertaining. But Redford is correct, entertaining as hell or not, it's best to ignore the man until he's banned.
  • camO_ocamO_o Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28028Members
    this is comedy gold.
  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Fecal_Species+Jul 29 2004, 09:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fecal_Species @ Jul 29 2004, 09:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Tekdude+Jul 29 2004, 09:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tekdude @ Jul 29 2004, 09:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You're case has no merit. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ... and your grammar has no merit, either. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wow, you guys are retarted.
  • lordofokralordofokra Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7898Members, Constellation
    Wow, if you care this much about being banned from forums you should get your priorities in order ^^
  • camO_ocamO_o Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28028Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Fecal_Species+Jul 29 2004, 09:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fecal_Species @ Jul 29 2004, 09:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-camO.o+Jul 29 2004, 09:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (camO.o @ Jul 29 2004, 09:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> this is comedy gold. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The guy is really a talented troll. I'm happy he's around... these forums would be pretty boring without him.

    Thankfully, even if he gets banned again, he can always just use one of the hundreds of free open proxies to make yet another account and get back to posting. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    thanks, i'm flattered
  • MartMart Origin of SUYF Join Date: 2002-02-26 Member: 248Members
    So amusing, still, even if this is serious. You are kidding right? Stop being so petty and annoying and go find some other forum to ravage with your stupidity.

    And on that note...

    You're such a silly silly bear.
  • Scientist_LawsuitScientist_Lawsuit Join Date: 2004-07-29 Member: 30244Banned
    edited July 2004
    What has rule been broken today after the warning? And this is my 5 posts today. I am still unclear on how many posts is decent and will not result in a ban.
  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    Wow, i'd never thought i would see the day when someone getting banned from a forum meant the end of the world.

    Oh, and im not in english class right now, i can spell however i want.

    Im glad that people like ANTI-FEDARILIST or whatever his name was get banned. All he did was:
    <ul><li>Post stuff that had nothing to do with the subject.</li><li>Spam.</li><li>And he/she was generally an all-around jackass with there attitude.</li></ul>
  • 999Hydralisk999Hydralisk Join Date: 2004-04-13 Member: 27907Members
    If you had a problem with UWE why would you bring it to public forums?
  • Scientist_LawsuitScientist_Lawsuit Join Date: 2004-07-29 Member: 30244Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-h20+Jul 29 2004, 09:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (h20 @ Jul 29 2004, 09:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wow, i'd never thought i would see the day when someone getting banned from a forum meant the end of the world.

    Oh, and im not in english class right now, i can spell however i want.

    Im glad that people like ANTI-FEDARILIST or whatever his name was get banned. All he did was:<ul><li>Post stuff that had nothing to do with the subject.</li><li>Spam.</li><li>And he/she was generally an all-around jackass with there attitude.</li></ul> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    6th post I will risk to educate one of you kids. Please don't call people with mental problems a "jackass."
  • Scientist_LawsuitScientist_Lawsuit Join Date: 2004-07-29 Member: 30244Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-|999|Hydralisk+Jul 29 2004, 09:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|999|Hydralisk @ Jul 29 2004, 09:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you had a problem with UWE why would you bring it to public forums? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It is illegal to copy data on this site (evidence) so it is safer to have witnesses in case of a data wipe.
  • titaniumtitanium Join Date: 2003-10-31 Member: 22166Members
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha x1000
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    You know, ANTI-FEDERALIST, ban evasion is also against forum rules.
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