Pshb Gone.

AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
edited August 2004 in NS General Discussion
<a href='http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=news' target='_blank'>t00t</a>
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  • HolymightHolymight Join Date: 2004-04-07 Member: 27785Members
    And there was much rejoicing...
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  • semipsychoticsemipsychotic Join Date: 2003-07-09 Member: 18061Members
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In addition, an update for Counter-Strike: Condition Zero and Counter-Strike has been released. Steam will update itself automatically when you restart. Here is a list of the changes: <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A Counter-strike update? Could somebody load up a test server and <b>confirm this for other Half-life mods please?</b>

    (It would be so very cool to have this bug dead forever.)
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  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    By Counter-Strike update, they mean Half-Life engine update, I hope.
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited August 2004
    whups, was wrong

    I assume that it is a fix for all
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  • IBTIBT Join Date: 2003-10-22 Member: 21879Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-STEAM+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (STEAM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Improved lag compensation for the player with the last player slot (ie. player 10 on a 10 player server)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i assume this is what were looking at? i never really noticed the bug because i aim <b>slightly ahead</b> of my target.
    but still, yay...
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  • gazOzzgazOzz Work&#39;s a ... Join Date: 2003-12-25 Member: 24747Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    Well... I hope it's a fix for all... we'll see anyway...

    /rushes to uninstall pshb fix...
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-IBT+Aug 11 2004, 05:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (IBT @ Aug 11 2004, 05:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-STEAM+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (STEAM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Improved lag compensation for the player with the last player slot (ie. player 10 on a 10 player server)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i assume this is what were looking at? i never really noticed the bug because i aim <b>slightly ahead</b> of my target.
    but still, yay... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The hitbox moves BEHIND them anyway.


    And yes, that is what the fuss is about. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    No with a bugged hb it moved in front of the visible player. The problem was the hb being rendered at a totally different spot from the player model. It's actually a lagged player model problem and not a lagged hitbox problem.

    I've only seen one person in the bugged slot so far, and they weren't experienced enough in the game to know how to abuse it very well, so I'm not sure if this is fixed or not.
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  • NikonNikon Join Date: 2003-09-29 Member: 21313Members, Constellation
    well, to be semantically correct, the news posting on steampowered said that STEAM will update ITSELF, and they just happened to mention CS/CZ not say that it was going to update those games.

    heres for hoping.....
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  • devicenulldevicenull Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15967Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Wasnt this one of two bugs holding up the b5 release.. if so, whats the status of the other one?
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    It couldn't have been holding up the release as it's a steam bug.

    (And I could have sworn the hitboxes lag... D'oh.)
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  • LitoLito Join Date: 2003-09-04 Member: 20560Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nikon+Aug 11 2004, 06:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nikon @ Aug 11 2004, 06:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> well, to be semantically correct, the news posting on steampowered said that STEAM will update ITSELF, and they just happened to mention CS/CZ not say that it was going to update those games.

    heres for hoping..... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Any way i read it, i'm getting that its only for CS/CS:CZ.

    Can someone confirm if this fix affects half-life?
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  • UKchaosUKchaos Join Date: 2002-08-10 Member: 1132Members
    edited August 2004
    When i tried to join an NS server today, steam updated Half-life. Its not just for CS.
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  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    They mis-spoke. The patch downloads for Half-Life as well, and presumably all other games.
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  • Seraph1Seraph1 Join Date: 2004-08-02 Member: 30310Members, Constellation
    Whoo, thank god (now we have to wait for beta 5 <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
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  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    Way to go grep, Ari, Tyr, and all the others that helped find this one. It really was an impressive detective job. Once you guys narrowed it down, it took almost no time to find and fix the bug (I think Matt Boone fixed it in minutes).

    Hallelujah!
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  • NessNess Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10935Members, Reinforced - Onos
    And amen.
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  • TekdudeTekdude Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15455Members, Constellation, Forum staff
    Haha, watch Half-Life 2 have the same bug, and the NS (or NS2?) Dev Team will find it, and they will fix it...
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  • InsomniaInsomnia Join Date: 2003-06-10 Member: 17179Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Tekdude+Aug 11 2004, 09:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tekdude @ Aug 11 2004, 09:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Haha, watch Half-Life 2 have the same bug, and the NS (or NS2?) Dev Team will find it, and they will fix it... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But only after months of OMG WTH!!!!elventy. Game play changes. Blame will be laid on aim and 60 clans will die.
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  • billcatbillcat Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4903Members, Constellation
    Alfred has stated that this fix covers all mods, tho from the way the news page was written I can understand why people were thinking it was for CS/CZ only..



    From: Alfred Reynolds
    Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike/Counter-Strike Condition Zero update
    Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:37:28 -0700

    Yes, a new engine was released to fix the lag compensation fix (which
    all mods share).
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  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    edited August 2004
    hurray (nice to see flayra being alive <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    DIE FOUL DEMON, DIEHHH!!!
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  • weggyweggy Join Date: 2003-06-04 Member: 16998Members
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> PSHB
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  • SalvationSalvation Join Date: 2003-11-21 Member: 23300Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Insomnia+Aug 11 2004, 09:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Insomnia @ Aug 11 2004, 09:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Tekdude+Aug 11 2004, 09:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tekdude @ Aug 11 2004, 09:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Haha, watch Half-Life 2 have the same bug, and the NS (or NS2?) Dev Team will find it, and they will fix it... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But only after months of OMG WTH!!!!elventy. Game play changes. Blame will be laid on aim and 60 clans will die. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    scary?

    but thank god the bug is gone ><

    anyone comfirm that its not in hl mods as well?
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  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Salvation+Aug 12 2004, 09:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Salvation @ Aug 12 2004, 09:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Insomnia+Aug 11 2004, 09:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Insomnia @ Aug 11 2004, 09:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Tekdude+Aug 11 2004, 09:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tekdude @ Aug 11 2004, 09:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Haha, watch Half-Life 2 have the same bug, and the NS (or NS2?) Dev Team will find it, and they will fix it... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But only after months of OMG WTH!!!!elventy. Game play changes. Blame will be laid on aim and 60 clans will die. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    scary?

    but thank god the bug is gone ><

    anyone comfirm that its not in hl mods as well? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Alfred has stated that this fix covers all mods, tho from the way the news page was written I can understand why people were thinking it was for CS/CZ only..



    From: Alfred Reynolds
    Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike/Counter-Strike Condition Zero update
    Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:37:28 -0700

    Yes, a new engine was released to fix the lag compensation fix (which
    all mods share).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • EvenFlowEvenFlow Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11046Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-IBT+Aug 12 2004, 12:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (IBT @ Aug 12 2004, 12:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-STEAM+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (STEAM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Improved lag compensation for the player with the last player slot (ie. player 10 on a 10 player server)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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    Hmmm, improving and fixing are 2 different things.
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  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    Well, it's because lag compensation for the last player was....lacking for some reason. I guess it was because the player which triggers the "full" server and receives the last slot on the server had some sort of conflicting code or somewhat in the netcode.

    So they had to improve it.

    Just a general analogy from someone who doesn't program and do netcode though <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    Well this is good news, now that all is leaving me pondering is, will I be palying CS:source beta before the next NS patch..hmmm <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • wallerwaller Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28281Members
    Lol, i can't belive i didn't see that earlier.
    I've just played a gather were someone was forced to perm gorge beacuse we thought he had the bugged slot. PSHB is fixed though =/
    Ahhh well, they won anyway, stupid reloc.
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  • CerebralCerebral Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17689Members
    has anyone here actually TESTED to make sure they really did fix it...i mean we can all assume but until there is feedback then we will have no way of knowing...considering that people in the other mod communities had little to no knowledge of the bug in the first place it would stand to reason that they would have no way of knowing if it got fixed correctly
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