Radeon 9800 Pro Versus 9800 Xt
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Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
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I'm getting the Platinum Edition. *OOOO* *AHHH*
Softmodding is using software to modify/overclock hardware. This is done by flashing the bios and enabling pipelines/overclocking.
<a href='http://www.overclock.net/showthread.php?t=183' target='_blank'>heres a link, there are better guides</a>
HL2 running ultra quality will be optimized for a 256 will it not? And 256 is quite usefull in doom 3... So don't say its useless, its just over doing it a bit.
texture archiving isn't that big a deal with compressed textures, expecially on ATI cards.
Softmodding is using software to modify/overclock hardware. This is done by flashing the bios and enabling pipelines/overclocking.
<a href='http://www.overclock.net/showthread.php?t=183' target='_blank'>heres a link, there are better guides</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What kind of risks are you looking at here? What do you mean by the "right one"? Will a saphire 9800 pro handle that without frying? If not, is it possible to buy coolers that can offset the bonus heat?
I am very poor and it took me 2 weeks just to save up enough for the 9800 Pro. I'll just grab that. And flash it to XT. Thanks!
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Got the same card 2 weeks back but mine came with an R350 core unfortunatley, still a great card though. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But if you succeed, you just bought an XT for 100 bucks less. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Softmodding is using software to modify/overclock hardware. This is done by flashing the bios and enabling pipelines/overclocking.
<a href='http://www.overclock.net/showthread.php?t=183' target='_blank'>heres a link, there are better guides</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What kind of risks are you looking at here? What do you mean by the "right one"? Will a saphire 9800 pro handle that without frying? If not, is it possible to buy coolers that can offset the bonus heat? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
risks: the card you buy can't handle the new enabled pipelines. read a guide to see which manufacturers sell cards that can handle it. the right one is one that can.
coolers: yes, a pro is just a xt with some stuff disabled, using a xt cooler would work fine.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->might need to buy a gpu<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> thats meant to say gpu cooler.
edit: the link i gave says it does void the warranty, but another guide i read says it doesn't. i recommend asking people/researching.
There's absolutely no question about it. It is logical that such an act will void warranty.
There's absolutely no question about it. It is logical that such an act will void warranty. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Only if the people you bought it from know what you did to break the card. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> I doubt they could pick up a failed BIOS flash.
yea but you can flash the bios just make sure you keep your nvidia on hand when you do flashing and make sure you keep original bios. Just incase something crappy happens while flashing you can change back to original bios and you need your nvidia to do that basically.
www.guru3d.com go to the forums and go to the ati section. they have links to all sorts of guides on flashing bios
ps flashing your bios does void out warranty. and adding a heatsink does void out warranty too.
Of course you are, you commie bastard!
Personally, I just assume that an actual ATI card would perform better....But am I wrong?
and sapphire cards perform just as well if not better than ATI made
I've heard good things about Saphire and MSI... Saphire were alot cheaper in my area, so that's what I went for... I would recomend going with the best deal you can find in any of those 3 manufacturers.
I guess I'll just order this one instead of the ATI one then. Anyways, it comes with 4 cd's....hopefully one will be a game <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'd be more refreshed if Talesin would post on them (no offense guys), but it sounds likes sapphire is good. Maybe I'll wait to order until CWAG gets his.... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[edit]BTW, thats the card I have in my PC at the moment, and I can tell you right now, its an awesome card, absolutly worth what I paid for it... I can't speak for its ability to overclock (yet) but it preforms up to specs in every way that I have seen so far.
[edit]BTW, thats the card I have in my PC at the moment, and I can tell you right now, its an awesome card, absolutly worth what I paid for it... I can't speak for its ability to overclock (yet) but it preforms up to specs in every way that I have seen so far. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Would you recommend the 256mb card instead of 128? Seems like there really isn't a difference...
How does it work with games like : DOOM3/Farcry. How about half-life?
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I think I might overclock it, so if so I guess I should order this (above) too. Does this seem right?
Is overclocking to the XT even worth it.... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[edit]BTW, thats the card I have in my PC at the moment, and I can tell you right now, its an awesome card, absolutly worth what I paid for it... I can't speak for its ability to overclock (yet) but it preforms up to specs in every way that I have seen so far. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Would you recommend the 256mb card instead of 128? Seems like there really isn't a difference...
How does it work with games like : DOOM3/Farcry. How about half-life? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I only have the 128 version, I haven't tried the 256... It's a little frustraing how laggy Doom 3 is on high settings with the 128, but its still easily playable, and that's even without the 4.8 cats (waiting for omega drivers). Farcry runs golden. It can lag if you bog it down with AA, but it handles quite high resolutions and texture quality. I plan to try the 128 OC when I get home (I hope to god nothing frys, but I just can't resist it), so I'll have a little more info in a few days.
I would go with the common recomendations however, and stick with the 128 unless you want to OC it, then I would go for the 256.
What fans / accessories should I get if I were to overclock? All the reviews say how it gets really how and its pretty loud...
(BTW : Sorry for kind of hijacking your thread CWAG, but I must be sure everything will be okay when I'm spending this amount of money on a video card <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
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