Ns 2.0 Or 3.0?
sherriff_l0bO
Join Date: 2004-08-02 Member: 30308Members
Join Date: 2004-08-02 Member: 30308Members
<div class="IPBDescription">a comparison between the latest</div> A nice little topic for discussion- Which version is better? 2.0/1 or 3.0/4a?
Personally i think 3.0. The new CO maps and modes are crazy and madly fun. Although the new textures are almost indescernable, it still gives NS a new 'pizazz'.
Although the lerk has a new movement, and is very slow with the walk and it is impossible to fly while strafing and hope to go anywhere, the aliens are just as good, and there are no major changes. The marines have better JP now, and the shotgun is still the ultimate pwnage weapon. There is also the addition of stim packs (eight seconds of increased speed and weapons rate-of-fire) and grenades )one at a time shitsticks that go boom... terrible addition me thinks).
Too bad steam doesnt support 2.0/1 anymore...
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Rite now im a little pressed for thoughts, so any more pro's/con's is good.
Personally i think 3.0. The new CO maps and modes are crazy and madly fun. Although the new textures are almost indescernable, it still gives NS a new 'pizazz'.
Although the lerk has a new movement, and is very slow with the walk and it is impossible to fly while strafing and hope to go anywhere, the aliens are just as good, and there are no major changes. The marines have better JP now, and the shotgun is still the ultimate pwnage weapon. There is also the addition of stim packs (eight seconds of increased speed and weapons rate-of-fire) and grenades )one at a time shitsticks that go boom... terrible addition me thinks).
Too bad steam doesnt support 2.0/1 anymore...
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Rite now im a little pressed for thoughts, so any more pro's/con's is good.
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Con- NS's clan scene is about dead.
Does they? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The true difference was between NS 1 and 2.
/me misses some 3 hour long games tbh ^^
/me doesn't miss the jp rush...
Started with 2.0, though, so I don't know ... maybe it's all nostalgic... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I just hope the idea behind this game doesn't die. I really love this game and I'd be absolutely crushed if it disappeared.
I hope they don't **** up the game too much, trying to make it more open to the public.
The first few times anyone plays NS is an amazing experience, the shock of seeing the inside of an Onos belly ("woah, I'm being like... eaten, dude!") or the flash of a Fade as it blinks past Marine Start.
The first impressions you get from playing it will never return. You become accustomed to the NS world.
I have to say, I like it when a "noob" sees an Onos for the first time and is all like "what the heck was that thing!?", reminds me of when I started playing.
Personally, I love the way NS is going. I like playing a CO_ map if I only have 15-20 minutes spare. Strangely enough, it keeps me sane. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Which version to I like the best? Hmmm, to be a stereotypical player and say 1.04, or to be totally radical.
IMHO, NS 4.2. Man, I totally love the lobster attack the gorge has <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
That is easy to say, but saying "everyone" usually means "no one." Once a update is published, all other versions become old. That is why I think people who say "go back to v.X then" need to re-think it a bit...
I do like parts of 1.04 however. The evolution-linked-to-hive concept was argueably better than the current system. It put more emphasis on hive-building than res-****ing. Nowadays, half the team goes fade/lerk within the first few minutes.
You wish. No one can afford that if they wish to have even a decend chance of winning by placing ~3 RTs (3 people), a new hive (1 person), and 3 DCs (1 person). That takes the teamwork of 5 people to get a DECEND chance of winning, and thus delaying getting any advanced life-forms to the mid-/end-game. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Or if they go fade, and manage to keep them off, the game is over anyway after the first five minutes.
3.0 is just all about fades now. Aliens are weak before fades come out, and weak after marines tech up to proto/adv. armory. It's all about doing as much damage as possible with the fade in the midgame, to keep marines from building to a strong endgame. On marines, it's all about preventing that.
/me misses some 3 hour long games tbh ^^
/me doesn't miss the jp rush... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Same here...
Imo the worst addition with 3.0 was CO... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Now most games in NS classic are played just like CO... (ramboing and stuff...)
seefnt CO <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
He? I still play it with WON on ns 2.0 servers, so why cant you?
Until WON is down i will
PS. I did not play since june though, so maybe WON is already down, which'd be pity.
who says it doesnt?
there was a 2.01 install for Steam, (which i still have) that runs and works fine on steam, infact, i believe theres even a couple of 2.01 servers still active, just not many people play on 2.01 so alot of people dont know.
if you look on .. <a href='http://www.steampowered.com/status/game_stats.html' target='_blank'>http://www.steampowered.com/status/game_stats.html</a> near the bottom you will see "Natural Selection" at the time I posted this it was 0 players and 6 servers.... this is NS 2.01 - Its not NS 3.0 because thats near the top with (beta) at the end, and its not 1.04 because 1.04 would read "NS 1.04" AND.. it was there before the 1.04 was ported over....
So yes, actually, it does still work <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> and is still there...
if anyone wants 2.01 i can host it for you to download... (unless you can find it somwhere else)
And even 1.04?? <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I will definitely try !
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I like 2.01 not because i am a nostalgy freak. I believe I never complained about 3.0. I like 3.0 too, so what that i like 1.04 better?
You are confusing balance patches of NS with patches to other software, i guess.
I have not seen ppl who said that win95 was better than winXP.
Because with every new Windows MS kept the features users liked and added the new ones. WinXP is not that much different from 95 from user's point.
With every new patch NS completely changes.
I consider 1.04, 2 and 3 as three different games, in that sense. And of course there will always be ppl who like some games more than other.
Unlike others though, I think CO was a pretty decent addation to the NS world, I just treat it as if I was a marine/kharra that had been dropped into a hotspot before the main force arrives. If you think about it that way (and try to play it in that sense) CO is alot more enjoyible...and of course their are the custom Marine Vrs Marine CO maps which are nice for teaching people how to aim <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
So here is my list of pros/cons for 3.0
Pros:<ul><li>Kharra have to work together to win due to weaking of all the classes except Fade
</li><li>Marines finally have hand grenades and a dropable item to increase Rate of fire
</li><li>Marines can no longer stack Command Chairs
</li><li>SC's finally have something worth while besides SoF
</li><li>Combat mode for new players or those that don't have the time to play out a long match</li></ul>
Cons:<ul><li>Lerk is now no longer supportive
</li><li>Onos die too easily to be effective besides sucide rushing
</li><li>Gorges can't take down rambos (this gets really annoying)
</li><li>Marines can no longer "turtle down" like they use to due to the seperation of turrets (come on you all know that turtling was fun. It made matchs last a long time and made Kharra players come up with various team based tactics to end the game)
</li><li>The phrase"Skulk Rush" is now offically dead</li></ul>
I still will go with 2.01 though. It's the verison I actually mastered (where as 1.0x was fun, I was always a terrible player and got board with it).
Just my 2.01 cents
Gorges btw are getting 10 more armor and will deal 5 more damage with their spit in the next version. This means that if a gorge and marine start shooting each other at the same time, the gorge will win.
Gorges btw are getting 10 more armor and will deal 5 more damage with their spit in the next version. This means that if a gorge and marine start shooting each other at the same time, the gorge will win. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
IMO the gorge is already to strong, i'm getting scared to run up to a gorge with anything less then 100hp just incase he totals me.
If he starts bunny-ing backwards i just stop running finish the LMG clip off and take a crack with my pistol, if he's not dead by then i'm not going anywhere near him, they're deadly!
ns 1.04 i love u!