Virtual Reality-- Would You Be Willing

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  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    What's to press down on then, waller?

    Yes, I haven't thought this through. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    Yeah. Hackers would be annoying. And viruses. And popups. And can you imagine the spyware? Just walking down the street after finishing your latest online VR game of CS 7, and you get a "YOUR MIND IS INFECTED WITH SPYWARE, THINK YES TO GET RID OF IT!" in your eyes. AVG would have a hell of a time.
  • SandstormSandstorm Join Date: 2003-09-25 Member: 21205Members
    There are two possibilities for VR. One possibility involves changing the external environment around the person to reflect the virtual world. This would be the "Holodeck" senario. The other, more likely, possibility involves altering the sensory perception of the person to trick them into thinking they are in a virtual world. This would no doubt become a direct implant into the brain.

    You would place sensors into specific regions of the brain, routing their signals to an interface converter, near the surface of the skin. There, the signal would be converted into a standardized interface and interact with a wired or wireless interface. This interface would then be used by a computer for input and output, much as a keyboard and monitor are today.

    Of course, placing metal wires inside your brain isn't going to work. The preference is for all technology inside your body to be biological, so the body will not attack it, as well as to allow the technology to recieve power from your body. This type of technology could perform self-maintainence, as well as adapt to changes in the body, specifically those related to aging.

    I'm certainly not the type to become the first person with this thing in my head, however I wouldn't be opposed to using it after a significant number of successful human trials. This type of technology has for more legitimate uses beyond simple gaming, but the topic specifically involves gaming.

    Eliminating the possibility to feel pain may exist in early generations of this technology for safety reasons, but I see no reason to keep it out permanently. Remember that pain does not always feel extremely uncomfortable. Feeling a slight pain sensation when you're arm is blown off is much more emersive than seeing something that says 50% health at the bottom of your view. Also, I imagine pain may be a necessary factor in the ability to engage in most popular online activity. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    As far as hacking goes, it's only prevalent because noones dying from it. Also, programming is currently extremely sloppy, because noone is dying from it. As one can guess, any company that writes any type of software involving the possibility of killing people would take great care to make sure it's safe, if simply so they don't get sued and/or sent to prison. There would be no such thing as beta testing on something like this.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    actually sandstorm they've already successfully planted chips in the human brain. One such experiment was to give sight to the blind; a headset takes in the visual information translating it into electronic information which is then passed to the chip located in the visual cortex... the problem is the construct that has to be worn outside of the head is far to chunky to be realistically feasible for mass use and the resolution of the images is shockingly low. Everything is big squares =/

    As for the 'what to press down on' question for being suspended, you just have a pnuematic frame for the legs to go into. When the foot reaches the 'ground' the frame prevents the foot from going lower. Pretty hard to do but I think it could be done =3
  • BeRzErKeRBeRzErKeR Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13691Members
    I can't believe nobody's mentioned co-op games yet. Just think of the possible AvP2 evac goodness, for example. The whole "holy **** we gotta get out of here" feeling when endless (would need to be AI controlled) aliens just keep pouring down on you and your buddies would be incredible.
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    I'd like V.R shooting/attacking games, nice place to release anger, and feel free to have mute on.

    AHHH DIEE!!! ARGHHH!!! THATS FOR NOT COMING TO MY BIRTHDAY ARGHH!! lol
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+Aug 22 2004, 01:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Aug 22 2004, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> actually sandstorm they've already successfully planted chips in the human brain. One such experiment was to give sight to the blind; a headset takes in the visual information translating it into electronic information which is then passed to the chip located in the visual cortex... the problem is the construct that has to be worn outside of the head is far to chunky to be realistically feasible for mass use and the resolution of the images is shockingly low. Everything is big squares =/

    As for the 'what to press down on' question for being suspended, you just have a pnuematic frame for the legs to go into. When the foot reaches the 'ground' the frame prevents the foot from going lower. Pretty hard to do but I think it could be done =3 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I remember seeing something like that ages ago, but i think they implanted a chip into the retina, and it just gave the guy the ability to see incredibly strong sources of light and incredibly vague outlines. But the look on a guys face who's been blind for ages (or his whole life, i can't remember) who could then see is something that went straight to my heart. It was all nice and stuff.

    Is it the same thing or different?
  • ScinetScinet Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12489Members, Constellation
    edited August 2004
    This reminds me of a peripheral one finnish game critic once proposed as a counter to the god syndrome rampant among gamers. He called it the <b>NNirvi's Amazing Hit Simulator</b>.

    The hit simulator is plugged to a wall outlet and then connected to the forehead of the user. When the user gets hit in a game, he receives an electrical shock that is in terms of power directly proportionate to the amount of damage taken. For example, when the adventure party members are hit by a skeleton in <b>Eye of the Beholder 2</b>, the player feels a slight tickle, but when the final boss dragon slams the party the whole city block loses power because of the massive jolt of voltage the player gets. And don't even get me started on the agonising pain caused by mind flayers...

    Naturally, the concept is a joke, but a good one, since most players run through hordes of enemies and don't care a bit about the damage they get since they firmly believe there's a medpack just around the corner.

    About VR graphics, well, I'll play if the game designers finally stop with the freaking spider fetish they have. I mean, I don't want to get knocked around by a 10 foot wolf spider on my spare time. That's just not my idea of fun.

    What I'd like to see next instead of VR, though, would be actual body mass of objects and players. The current physics engines are cool, but if a pinky lands on top of me in Doom3, I oughta become 2-dimensional, not just stand there under him wondering if he has noticed he's sitting on his intended prey.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    edited August 2004
    hmmm... the one I saw was definitely in the brain rather than the retina, though they might have also put one there to help trasmit the data. They showed a simulated image of what he probably saw and it was like 64x64 rez or something. It was just a jumble of coloured squares ^^;


    <b>edit:</b> having a VR sense of touch would really add to games, picking stuff up and whatnot would be easier and though pain is probably bad, pressure from a hit would alleviate one of the major problems of FPSses (being unable to really know where you're being hit and from what direction without a paper doll, onscreen hud-flash or message telling you).
    Unfortunately I can see that VR touch would probably lead to cyber-pron faster than decent gaming ~sigh~ -.-
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    I would have so much VR sex, oh my god. i would have to be placed on a diet of sugar water to replenish myself.
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Scinet+Aug 22 2004, 09:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scinet @ Aug 22 2004, 09:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What I'd like to see next instead of VR, though, would be actual body mass of objects and players. The current physics engines are cool, but if a pinky lands on top of me in Doom3, I oughta become 2-dimensional, not just stand there under him wondering if he has noticed he's sitting on his intended prey. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol, like when an Onos dropd down on some marines head and nothing happens and it looks like the marine is wearing an Onos hat.

    heehee


    But yea co op would be cool. DOOM 3 or AvP2 or even some multiplayer DoD action lol.



    Either way id probably be in the co op group that gets ambushed by some freaky Doom 3 tick rush and get separated from my group in the chaos only ot get trapped in some corner.
    <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    Sounds good <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> However, my personal favourite would be a Metal Gear Solid version. Man that would kick arse, provided that all the VR gear doesn't get wrecked when you hit the deck to crouch <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    When the technology becomes avaliable, I will be lost in Fallout 6 forever. Ahem... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    Man, playing Silent Hill in VR would be great, it will add so much immersion, as it stands, survival horror games like that suffer because there isn't total immersion, if such a thing came about, i think it's time to start buying more underwear.
  • RatonetwothreetwooneRatonetwothreetwoone Join Date: 2004-03-23 Member: 27504Members
    well thats why the helmet/chip thingy wouldnt tell your brain you got shot in the HEAD specifically, it would maybe just... hint at it... >_>

    oor when you get shot in the head/heart/somewhere vital that would actually kill you if your brain thought it was shot there the game would immediatly go into some happy catbus room or respawn you or something...

    or keep part of you aware that you ARE in a game... itd be like a dream... you can get shot in the head in a dream and still not officially die, but you still wont feel the pain...
  • SurgeSurge asda4a3sklflkgh Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 944Members
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Aug 22 2004, 03:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Aug 22 2004, 03:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I would have so much VR sex, oh my god. i would have to be placed on a diet of sugar water to replenish myself. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    CWAG has been living with his fruit flies for too long now. He has become assimilated D:
  • Norml_E_HighNorml_E_High Join Date: 2003-03-30 Member: 15055Members
    I think having pain would be pretty cool. If there was ever any incentive to get better at a game, that would be it. Tired of getting ripped to shreds by a nazis MP40? Kill him first! That or cause everyone to cower like a little girl and never get any objectives done <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Aug 22 2004, 10:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Aug 22 2004, 10:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I would have so much VR sex, oh my god. i would have to be placed on a diet of sugar water to replenish myself. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You, and just about every other male on the planet. And thus, the human race would die. Not from nukes, but porn. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    VR Porn won't work.. The sensors would have to be specially-made to... er... "sensor"... er... and pressure.. that whole... area...

    And it still wouldnt be real.

    So I suggest you stop waiting, and go out and meet some people who aren't looking at their drinks. Rohypnol away!
  • ScinetScinet Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12489Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Aug 22 2004, 04:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Aug 22 2004, 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So I suggest you stop waiting, and go out and meet some people who aren't looking at their drinks. Rohypnol away! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, baby. You don't need looks and manners to be a Casanova these days.

    ...What? Why are you looking at me like that?
  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    Id hate to be killed in VR training, but if we did something where you would lie complete still, but all your sensed would be tranfered electronically, then I might consider doing something like that.
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Aug 22 2004, 04:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Aug 22 2004, 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> VR Porn won't work.. The sensors would have to be specially-made to... er... "sensor"... er... and pressure.. that whole... area...
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If not VR Porn, it'll be Sex-Bots. Ever been to www.realdoll.com? (Very Not Work/School safe)
  • ThE_HeRoThE_HeRo Join Date: 2003-01-25 Member: 12723Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Daxx22+Aug 22 2004, 05:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Daxx22 @ Aug 22 2004, 05:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Aug 22 2004, 04:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Aug 22 2004, 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> VR Porn won't work.. The sensors would have to be specially-made to... er... "sensor"... er... and pressure.. that whole... area...
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If not VR Porn, it'll be Sex-Bots. Ever been to www.realdoll.com? (Very Not Work/School safe) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wow, that site is the most pathetic site in the world. Check out the "comments" section. Everyone single commenter has their name withheld by request. Imagine that.

    If I ever get this lonely, I'd want someone to take me out to a pasture, and shoot me.
  • SurgeSurge asda4a3sklflkgh Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 944Members
    I don't have a gun, you'll have to lend me your own.

    That, or you could melt down all your games so you can make a Glock and shoot yourself.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    Oh man! The Real Doll FAQ's section is a goldmine!:
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  • StakhanovStakhanov Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14448Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Scinet+Aug 22 2004, 03:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scinet @ Aug 22 2004, 03:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> About VR graphics, well, I'll play if the game designers finally stop with the freaking spider fetish they have. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well , I'll play if they don't !... Hissing , leaping spiders of death bring so much excitement into otherwise quiet or straightforward games. I remember the day I was playing Thievery with the lights off , running through the creepy asylum's corridors , worried to encounter guards... the giant spider was unleashed , it proceeded to kill the patrolling guards one after another , then stumbled upon me without a warning. By the time I turned back to face it , the abomination leaped at me with an horrifying hiss , it was so scary I actually screamed...

    Of course , there will always be giant spiders in FPS and RPG games. Game designers aren't going to stop using that mighty freudian image...
  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    I can't wait til I am a skulk in VRNS <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    RPGs would be awesome in a VR environment.

    Actually, I'd like to play any one of the Thief games. Although that would be a little hard to handle. I mean, playing a game where you wander around a mechanist building in the dark with multiple enemies is completely different from actuallly <i>being</i> in a dark building full of homicidal robots. And I don't know if I want The Cradle to be any more real...

    On second thought, I'd rather play a VR version of Grim Fandango. At least then you're already dead.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Aug 22 2004, 03:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Aug 22 2004, 03:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh man! The Real Doll FAQ's section is a goldmine!:
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    Some are kind of creepy:

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    No. REALDOLL's skeletal system is too flexible and collapsible to allow her to stand upright. [b]The doll has the poise and relaxed state of a sleeping girl.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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