Newbie Question About Nades

locallyunscene · August 2004

very simple question, do weapon upgrades effect grenades in co/ns or has anyone ever heard of a plug in that does this becuase I was under the impression that it doesn't but sometimes I doubt it.

mirrodin · August 2004

I believe the weapon upgrades effect all weapons. Let me read through the manual... brb.

*hours later* <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

<a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/manual/front_upgrades_weapon.html' target='_blank'>Linkage</a>

EDIT: Oh ya, note how the word "all" (before weapons) is in italics.

SmoodCroozn · August 2004

Even mines and welders get upgraded? I'm pretty sure knives don't get upgraded. When weapons are at Level 3 does that mean it adds with Levels 1 and 2 so the total is a 60% boost? Or does it just add 10% each time...

BlueNovember · August 2004

It's DEFINATELY not all weapons. I am practically positive the knife is unaffected.

That manual is ancient unfortunately, there is a newer one here:
<a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/manual_version_2/Natural_Selection_Manual_Framed.html' target='_blank'>http://www.natural-selection.org/manual_ve...ual_Framed.html</a>

You can fire up a server yourself with mp_drawdamage "1" and see for yoursefl too.

More specifically:
YES for Pistol, LMG, Shotgun, and HMG.
YES for Grenades. (direct hit; splash is hard to test)
YES for Welder.
NO for Mines.
NO for Knife.
NO for Turrets. (This is listed as a bug in the database, and probably should be 'yes')

(http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=61615&hl=, ty Verthandi. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />)

The %age increase is also different. I read a great post listing all the numerical details, but I cant find it. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' />
Meh. That should do. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

EDIT:
Well it seems the above information is outdated. I woudln't believe it, but hey, it's #cri, so best not to argue
<a href='http://www.cri-hacks.com/damage/index.php' target='_blank'>http://www.cri-hacks.com/damage/index.php</a>

SlayerPL · August 2004

well upg are simple really.

weapon..............lvl 1.................lvl2.............lvl3
pistol.................22...................24..............26\
lmg....................11...................12.............13-- per bullet
hmg...................22...................24.............26/
gl.......not sure..............................................
sg......................180..................200.........220.( all pellets hit)

turrets do get upgrades, but they work only for one shot. they they get back to lvl 0 upg.

(correct me if im wrong with the number)

jamespsx · August 2004

weapon upgrades effect everything that uses bullets (including the turrets!) so true turret farmers wuv lvl 3 weps <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

btw i think lvl 3 gl is 224? i dont really know so cheak out the <a href='http://www.cri-hacks.com/damage/index.php' target='_blank'>ns damage simulator</a>

edit again; mines DO get affected by wep upgrades... lvl 3 mine is leathel 2 anything <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

SLizer · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jamespsx @ Aug 27 2004, 06:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
mines DO get affected by wep upgrades... lvl 3 mine is leathel 2 anything <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Sry just has to say this <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

DA ONOS F33R BUT DA MINZOR IN DA FLOOR, when u see oni heading to u <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

again sry....

locallyunscene · August 2004

cool I learned something new, so getting lvl2 weps before shotgun does not prohibit me from getting a GL, good to know. And mines are suddenly so much more useful...

VampMaster · August 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jamespsx @ Aug 27 2004, 06:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> weapon upgrades effect everything that uses bullets (including the turrets!) so true turret farmers wuv lvl 3 weps <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

btw i think lvl 3 gl is 224? i dont really know so cheak out the <a href='http://www.cri-hacks.com/damage/index.php' target='_blank'>ns damage simulator</a>

edit again; mines DO get affected by wep upgrades... lvl 3 mine is leathel 2 anything <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Gl damage:

LEVEL 0: 125
LEVEL 1: 137.5
LEVEL 2: 150
LEVEL 3: 162.5

And mine level 3 doesn't even kill a lerk!

jamespsx · August 2004

we know the answer 2 the question now, so..... <a href='http://forumspam.articblue.nl/thread_related/thread_lock/images/0430.jpg' target='_blank'>jack the rascel says...</a>

AlienCow · August 2004

Heh how would the knife upgrade anyway?

....extra stabbiness....sharper blade....machete....eheh <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Verthandi · August 2004

Harder and lighter alloys.

AlienCow · August 2004

Don't be so clever.

ZiGGY · September 2004

gotta love lvl 2 hmgs vs tier1 *everygame* ;p

Rhuadin · September 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AlienCow! @ Aug 31 2004, 11:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Heh how would the knife upgrade anyway?

....extra stabbiness....sharper blade....machete....eheh <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Nanites <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' />

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