CS Retail and can't install NS?

MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
<div class="IPBDescription">Read me now!</div>If you are running a copy of CounterStrike Retail (usually a non-English version), and are having problems installing NS, we have a workaround for you. This seems to happen to a handful of users, but the fix below will get NS onto your system:

1. Download the dummy half-life executable file from <a href="http://www.natural-selection.org/downloads/hl.exe" target="_blank">here</a>.
2. Copy file into your counterstrike retail directory (in the same spot as your cs.exe or cstrike.exe).
3. Run the Natural-Selection Installation.
4. The NS installation will think the dummy HL.exe is patched correctly, and complete your installation.

Now, there is a caveat to this - the installer will create a shortcut that points to the dummy HL.exe. You will need to edit your 'Launch Natural Selection' shortcut to point to your counterstrike exe. That is the only downside. Once you install, you can actually throw the dummy HL.exe away.
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  • DaLilBugDaLilBug Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7016Members
    edited November 2002
    Aight. When I did that and NS installed, but when I try to play it says "DLL file not found in path. Either incorrect compile option or system/file server setup incorrect." That is exactly what that says. Then after I click Ok another pops up saying "DLL(s) not found or created." Please help... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->


    Ok ignore question above ^ I found out why. but...

    When I click on ns.exe, it asked me what file to open it with... Which one should I open it with?? thanx again <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Ehhh, there is no ns.exe...
  • DaLilBugDaLilBug Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7016Members
    Aight its not NS.exe. It is the icon to launch Natural Selection. When I click it, It ask me what I want to open it with. Should I open it with Counter-strike(thats the game I bought to get half-life and such)? Also I tried going into the firearms(half-life mod) launcher and trying the custom game part(I refreshed it), but it didn't show up(I figured it would, because it is a half-life mod). Please help...I wanna play this game, it looks fun.

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DarkMasterDarkMaster Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7120Members
    Alright... as you all know... CS Retail CAN play mods and suchs ehh?... you can also make a copy of your "cs.exe" and rename it to "hl.exe", and I dont believe they have an Icon for NS, so what you do is... Run HL/CS with normal Icon, then click on Modifications, and choose Natural Selecion, then choose Activate. This should work easily for you, also if running Windows XP, you may get better results by changing the compatibility to Win98.

    Have fun, Kill some marine **obscenity**!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DaLilBugDaLilBug Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7016Members
    edited November 2002
    I found out why that didn't work(It was still in cstrike area),but now it says

    cannot load library C:\SIERRA\counter-strike\ns\cl_dlls\client.dll

    I checked and its all their. Please help me
  • korean_guy_2002korean_guy_2002 Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7153Members
    edited November 2002
    i have a solution
    after you've installed NS go back to ur desktop
    i don't know about u mine had a shortcut created,
    if u dun copy ur hl, cs shortcut to desktop and change icon
    1) if u had a short cut created in the installation, dun run it, instead right click shortcut and click properties or waht ever its called.
    then in the second tab, there should be 5 boxes.
    in the second box, copy and paste whatever it says on ur hl, cs shortcut(for hl it should be
    C:\Sierra\HALF-L~1)

    2) if u didn't have a shortcut, make it and i'm not telling u how to make it.
    enough info for ya?
    ok i'll shut up now
    bye!! <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DaLilBugDaLilBug Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7016Members
    I am not using my CS short cut and i can get to the game and everything, but it says it can't load it(I checked where the cs icon went to and it is valid). I looked in c:\SIERRA\counter-strike\ns\cl_dlls\client.dll It is their and in the right order. Man i have worst of luck with computers.
  • BullyfanBullyfan Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 512Members
    edited November 2002
    ERRRR Can somebody please help me with my prob.... I have CS retail.
    Whenever i try to start a game on eithr LAN or Net it says
    tmessage::TextMessageParse:messagecount>=MAX_MESSAGES

    PLEASE HELP ME MUST PLAY NATURAL SELECTION!
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Uninstall NS, then reinstall NS, and try again.
  • FaceOffFaceOff Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7724Members
    hey guys, haveing a problem , i have the cs retail its updated and everything i play it everyday... but i get the same problem when Dalilbug did... i did what was posted for it the dummy file in the cs.exe. dir it still doesnt work give me those same errors when clicking on them .

    Also when i go to install NS it says i must be running version blah blah blah of hl or cs(i have the right version of CS) but can anyone pls give me some help <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BullyfanBullyfan Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 512Members
    i fount a solution see what i did was reinstall cs so ns would install but you have to have 1.5 cs to play so all i needed to do was update cs and that fixed my problem.
  • TheRandomSinTheRandomSin Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5571Members
    edited November 2002
    <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Okay, you can do this buy getting a halflife cd, and use your CS retail key in the halflife wonID thingy and thatll work... i have like CSretail, blueshift (I didnt have opposing force), and 2 halflife copies and i use the CS retail because someone else was using my halflife id... ill find that **obscenity**...

    Oh yeah! the blueshift also worked too, so if you want an extra halflife wonID around, just buy it, it comes with opposinjg force which is a great mod in itself...

    remember, <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> + <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> = <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> ... wait... what? lets try that again... <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> + <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo--> = X <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> X + <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> + <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> ... hmm.... <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • floorfloor Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7937Members
    ok. i installed counterstrike retail, patched it up to date. when i try to run the installer, right off it says "Could not initialize installation. File size expected=95195525, size returned=95195626." how can I fix this? :/, the hl.exe dummy wont work.
  • FaceOffFaceOff Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7724Members
    just download it again floor , i had the same problem on my first download... it worked the second time well the installation started (still wont install) but i think im gonna have to and uninstall and reinstall cvs <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SidewinderSidewinder Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7842Members
    I actually find this very odd, because my installation of natural Selection was smooth as a baby's bottom. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Perhaps it was the fact that my Counter-Strike Retail was a US version though, so I wouldn't have been affected. I feel bad for all the people who can't play it though, because they're missing the most awesome mod to rear its sexy armor-plated, parasite-infested, horn-clad, war torn head. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> By the way to all you unfortunate NSers, since I myself am an avid Half-Life mod fan, I think I know a liiitttlllleee bit about this kind of stuff, so my suggestion would be to just leave the hl.exe after you create it. Infact, I believe that MonseiurEvil forgot to mention that you should copy the hlds.exe file and NOT the cstrike.exe file (I think). Also, if you guys aren't sure what MonseiurEvil meant when he said change the Natural Selection Target, he meant:

    <ul>
    <li><b>Right Click</b> on your Natural Selection icon.
    <li><b>Select</b> 'Properties'.
    <li><b>Select</b> the information written in the
    <li><b>Change</b> it from "C:\Sierra\Counter-Strike\hl.exe -game ns" to "C:\Sierra\Counter-Strike\cstrike.exe -game ns"
    <li><b>Click</b> 'Apply'
    </ul>

    Hope that helps you fellows and happy hunting ingame should it work. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • injectioninjection Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8827Members
    I'm having the same problem as Floor.
    "File Size Expected=XXXXXX. File Size Returned=XXXXXX"

    I'm using CS-retail, and have the dummy hl.exe in the right place. I've re-downloaded the installer 3 times and each time I get the same error-- except with different numbers where the XXXX's are...

    Any ideas?
  • aznboiaznboi Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8988Members
    I have the same problem with "Faceoff", i have reinstall the Half-Life Counter-Strike retail version 3 times, and reinstall the Full 1.5 Counter-Strike retail patches 5 times and i have try the hl.exe dummy file and paste it in every folders i can found in my half-life related folders, but the installation still says that i need at least Half-Life mod 1.1.1.0 or 1.3 Counter-strike retail blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah it tells me to please upgrade and re-run this installation, so far i done everything i can and it doesn't work. -.- please help me out guys

    ps. i have played NS in my friends house and i really like it!!!
  • RamothRamoth Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2833Members
    t o fix the version 1.1.0.0 **obscenity**, edit the version number in sierra.ini in the half-life/cstrike folder.
  • iamSuicideiamSuicide Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9274Members
    I installed NS with no problems to my sierra\counterstrike directory. the icon on the desktop works properly, and I launch the game with no problem. The problem occurs when I try to join a game, the message I get is.

    "You cannot connect to a server runnning custom game ns until you install the custom game"

    The game apears to be installed ok, cause i see the NS screens.

    What am I doint wrong?

    Thanks

    <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SparrSparr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9311Members
    I have Half-Life Counter-Strike, which I assume is CS Retail. I installed it, then ran the CS 1.5 full patch. Then I ran the NS installer. Now when I hit the NS icon I get the right menu screen (NS background, NS text, etc) but when I go to join an internet game it cant connect to the master servers (both of them time out after 5 seconds) and when I go into my Filters down on the 'show only games running this mod' (or whateveR) filter where it usually lists all the mods installed it only lists Half-Life and nothing else (not even CS surprisingly). Any ideas on this twist on this common problem?
  • Mr_CleanMr_Clean Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10009Members
    OK, I am running 1.5 patch for Cs retail. I can't get passed the installation. I keep getting the upgrade blah blah blah message. I know I am at right level and I have placed fake hl.exe in my counterstrike folder. What do I havve to do to play this mod? I am lost and I just wanna play!!!!!! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • clanSquirrelclanSquirrel Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10041Members
    i own counter-strike but im not sure if i updated it with the retail version or free online version. is there anywhere in my seirra folder that will tell me what i have? because im having the DLL problem
  • TekkenWarTekkenWar Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10196Members
    halp me
    what is WBDCH34I.DLL <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
    can anyone tell , wth is it?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • JediHowellJediHowell Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1431Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sidewinder+Nov 13 2002, 11:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sidewinder @ Nov 13 2002, 11:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I actually find this very odd, because my installation of natural Selection was smooth as a baby's bottom. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Perhaps it was the fact that my Counter-Strike Retail was a US version though, so I wouldn't have been affected. I feel bad for all the people who can't play it though, because they're missing the most awesome mod to rear its sexy armor-plated, parasite-infested, horn-clad, war torn head. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> By the way to all you unfortunate NSers, since I myself am an avid Half-Life mod fan, I think I know a liiitttlllleee bit about this kind of stuff, so my suggestion would be to just leave the hl.exe after you create it. Infact, I believe that MonseiurEvil forgot to mention that you should copy the hlds.exe file and NOT the cstrike.exe file (I think). Also, if you guys aren't sure what MonseiurEvil meant when he said change the Natural Selection Target, he meant:

    <ul>
    <li><b>Right Click</b> on your Natural Selection icon.
    <li><b>Select</b> 'Properties'.
    <li><b>Select</b> the information written in the
    <li><b>Change</b> it from "C:\Sierra\Counter-Strike\hl.exe -game ns" to "C:\Sierra\Counter-Strike\cstrike.exe -game ns"
    <li><b>Click</b> 'Apply'
    </ul>

    Hope that helps you fellows and happy hunting ingame should it work. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    iamsuicide, see if this works:
  • MajuMaju Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10556Members
    Okay.. I'm trying to install NS on my PC, right? I have CS retail, V1.5. When I try to install it says I need to upgrade, etc. I tried the HL dummy, and it didn't work. I can't get anything to work. Perhaps I'm putting the dummy in the wrong place? Can anyone tell me where to put it? I'm so irritated about this.

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MajuMaju Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10556Members
    JediHowell, you have any clue how? (Since I see you reading this)
  • felixlaw11114felixlaw11114 Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11035Members
    edited December 2002
    i also put the dummy thing copy to my cs doc..still said you haven't installl
    my cs install in C:\Program Files\counter-strike\CS1.5============cs1.5
    C:\Program Files\counter-strike================cs1.0
    i already put that thing in this two doc.....
    still can't install it
    .........whywhywhy.why..wh........
    sir i don't have half life bluse shift or opposing foce...
    i download the hl1110 patch already but it said need most basic half llife.....
    all infrmation you need i provide..ic an giv e to yu..i jst want to play NSNSNSNSNSNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    sir...my question is....i can't install in..
    my queston not the hortcut question!!
  • SoberSober Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9337Members
    well, i never needed the dummy Hl.exe, i just gave the path C:\Sierra\Counter-Strike and ns goes and installs.


    How handy!
  • DogbertDogbert Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11561Members
    Well everything worked but when I go 2 play internet games it wont let me it sais I need 2 install NS and it is installed. I even have the NS backround everything worked up 2 there **obscenity**. **obscenity**. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • r3zd0gr3zd0g Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11812Members
    Ok, I'm having the same problems as "iamsuicide." I dl the dummy hl file, and installed ns...i changed the hl.exe to cstrike.exe in the properties, everything loads up, but i try to join a server is says "can not play custom game ns until you install...blah blah" ...i see the servers are running v1.03..and i dl'd v1.00..is there a difference? I looked everywhere for v1.03 and it says i don't have to dl unless i run a server. So what's the damn problem?? any help plz?
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