The Internet, College, And Ns

stingavandalstingavandal Join Date: 2004-07-17 Member: 29952Members, Constellation
edited September 2004 in Tech Support
<div class="IPBDescription">together ...out of my (small) league</div> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Hello,
I have a problem.
I just recently moved to my college dorm which has a T3 connection (if not T3 then T1) and hooked up my computer stuff. Now, I found here that i could not connect to most servers (all of the ones in my favorites folder like voogru and NSArmslab.com and Texas[HK]) for Natrual selection and other steam games...i also found that most servers had pings over 120 or that i had ping of over 120 in game. I went home after a couple weeks to visit/laundry and tried my laptop there and all the servers in my favorites worked fine and my ping was fine (i also have a high speed connection at home). I then made the drive back to campus and lo' and behold the servers still wont work and the pings are weird. I don't understand how this can happen with a t3 connection or what the problem could be and why its only for some servers and why its only my games that seem to be slowed down. I can still dnld (legal files =D) very fast and everything fine. Do you all kno why this is happening or if theres a fix. Its almost as if they/somebody at the college is purposely blocking voogru, NSArmslab.com, and texas[HK] and any other decent good servers.

P.S. I noticed its really hard to find any good NS games when these servers aren't around =D.

Dell inspiron 8600
Pentium-M
138 mb ATI radeon 9600 proturbo
512 mb ram
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    It must be something at the college-end of things. Closed ports? It you're really brave you could try bring it up with the Sys-admin, but somehow I think he may be of hte mind that the net connection is for educational use only. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    "But Mr, I'm learning about NS! Spatial Awareness you know."

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    are the servers that work using a non-standard port? Most servers use 27015 (? should check that,) but there are others that use 27016 or higher. If the admin is only blocking 27015, this would explain your symptoms. There would be no way of fixing it. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> (At least without braking a few rules and seriously annoying off the sys admin.)
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  • SloppyKissesSloppyKisses omgawd a furreh&#33; Virginia Join Date: 2003-07-05 Member: 17942Members, Constellation
    More than likely its closed ports, you'd have to do a scan and find out. If its a closed port ask them if they can open it sometimes they will =o All depends how strictly the college's internet access is kept.
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  • stingavandalstingavandal Join Date: 2004-07-17 Member: 29952Members, Constellation
    I have never tried fooling with ports before so how would i go about "scanning" them to see which are opened and closed

    Also, i checked the server list and sure enuff none of the 27015 servers were showing up. And i am assuming the last 5 digits of the IP address after the colon is the port.

    The sysadmin person thing situation is sort of ...unique...and not very strict considering they are *cough* bootlegging internet off the main campus*cough*. I can explain this unique strange thing later if someone wnats to kno or needs to kno to help =/. just ask.

    Anyways pls tell me how to scan and what now =D. Maybe i can open them up myself? They can't even locate who has wireless routers or not on campus (the wireless routers some ppl had their parents set up for them is shutting down the ethernet t3 connections to rooms in the same residence hall.)
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  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    There are so many varibles involved in telecommuniations that it will be difficult to pinpoint your problem. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    PS: this is the stuff that confuses me too
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  • SmoodCrooznSmoodCroozn Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22310Members
    Did you change this feature?

    It's the only thing I can think of... not sure about the ports and whatnot...

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  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    If you can find a fast computer near the campus that is on alot you could try jumping through that PC to the net using a http mirror. Dont know if it will help but I do it with IRC (they block port 6667 but not the dcc port <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-stingavandal+Sep 1 2004, 03:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (stingavandal @ Sep 1 2004, 03:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have never tried fooling with ports before so how would i go about "scanning" them to see which are opened and closed

    Also, i checked the server list and sure enuff none of the 27015 servers were showing up. And i am assuming the last 5 digits of the IP address after the colon is the port.

    The sysadmin person thing situation is sort of ...unique...and not very strict considering they are *cough* bootlegging internet off the main campus*cough*. I can explain this unique strange thing later if someone wnats to kno or needs to kno to help =/. just ask.

    Anyways pls tell me how to scan and what now =D. Maybe i can open them up myself? They can't even locate who has wireless routers or not on campus (the wireless routers some ppl had their parents set up for them is shutting down the ethernet t3 connections to rooms in the same residence hall.) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin-stingavandal+Sep 1 2004, 03:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (stingavandal @ Sep 1 2004, 03:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have never tried fooling with ports before so how would i go about "scanning" them to see which are opened and closed
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    Ok, Spin-out.
    --
    There are various networking tools available (used for various leagal and illeagal purposes,) obtainable quite easily by the use of 216.239.57.99, or "Google". (http://216.239.57.99/) If you cant find one I'll send one/ get link / etc.

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    Also, i checked the server list and sure enuff none of the 27015 servers were showing up. And i am assuming the last 5 digits of the IP address after the colon is the port.
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    You are correct about that. Sorry, I should have explained. IPs are in the form:
    x.x.x.x:yyyyy
    Where x is a number between 0 and 255 and y is a number between 0 and 9.

    (w00t. Correct about port blocking.)

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    The sysadmin person thing situation is sort of ...unique...and not very strict considering they are *cough* bootlegging internet off the main campus*cough*. I can explain this unique strange thing later if someone wnats to kno or needs to kno to help =/. just ask.
    Anyways pls tell me how to scan and what now =D. Maybe i can open them up myself?
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    Ooooooookk. Now here's an interesting situation. Is the university aware of his/her actions? If not,
    a) Use tunnler as Rue suggests,
    a) Ask admin nicely to open port 27015,
    c) Blackmail admin to open port 27015. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    The connection sounds so dodgy I am not sure what to do. You could try loging-in to the router/swtich combo if there is one, but there's more likely a server, which I don't know much about.
    Routers have nice friendly web interfaces that live at the bottom for your ip range, and can be logged-into using <a href='http://192.168.0.1' target='_blank'>http://192.168.0.1</a>, <a href='http://10.0.0.1' target='_blank'>http://10.0.0.1</a>, amounts others. If you want to try that:
    Find out your ip address using DOS (navigate to system32 and type IPconfig,)
    Take the address in the form x.x.x.x and change it to x.x.x.1
    Type it into an explorer window
    Hope a dialogue box comes up.

    Then... enter the admin login password. :S


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    They can't even locate who has wireless routers or not on campus (the wireless routers some ppl had their parents set up for them is shutting down the ethernet t3 connections to rooms in the same residence hall.)
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    lol?
    :\
    This is one messsed up place dude. Good luck with solutions. (Although I am far from confident that they will work.)

    EDIT: ARgggggg. Who put that 5 smiley limit on. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I need emotion expressed in my posts. Sniff.
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  • stingavandalstingavandal Join Date: 2004-07-17 Member: 29952Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    eh thnx. I guess its not a router since nothing comes up.
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