[mrel] Ice's "high Poly" La Hands

Evil_Ice · September 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">comes with a complimentary axe!</div> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /> yay!

now I can get back to the rest of my life... don't ask me for any more big favors any time soon <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' />
I finished my hands, I modelled, UVW mapped, textured, smoothed, assigned, and animated, just for you guys (don't you feel special now)

<img src='http://ice.nsarmslab.com/NewArm_sshot14.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

and if you act now (or you aren't an animator but wanna try these new bad boys out) you can have your very own utility axe, with new arms already installed!

<img src='http://ice.nsarmslab.com/NottAxeV2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

<a href='http://www.nsarmslab.com/flash/custom.php' target='_blank'>Get Yours...</a>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' />

Crm_Grey · September 2004

the uility axe on ns arms lab looks like it has the old hands? just download it? ..... or are u too lazy to change the pic?

Tribal-Bob · September 2004

Is there somewhere we can just dl the hands in like .smd so we can apply them to models?

EDIT: I dled the axe, the hands are the same.

Thantos · September 2004

oooh i have been waiting 4 this <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' />
you make baby <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /> happy

sry bad english <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />

Evil_Ice · September 2004

sorry guys, lemme yell at Gary... he didn't upload it yet, he should have BOTH files uploaded soon, that lazy bum <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> anyway it should be up by tommorrow I'm going to bed...
[edit: there is one set of files for the hands alone, and one for the axe, so yes there will be a place to get just the .smd files, as well as some documentation, and textures and everything you need to animate with the pretty new arms]

Liku · September 2004

Pretty nails.

Tribal-Bob · September 2004

Cool beans, Im gonna try to add them to the high poly lmg (Im too impatient <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />)

Evil_Ice · September 2004

Ok very cool, glad to see some initiative to animation, make sure you go through that readme, and view the happy little milkshape animation tutorial I wrote to help people who wanna animate better understand how to go about doing just that <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />
that readme is very important for a few reasons

Tribal-Bob · September 2004

Bleh, tried it, read everything but this isn't something I can do <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' />

Evil_Ice · September 2004

sure it is, now get to it or else! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' />
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

second day and my thread is second page material?
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' />

Priest · September 2004

the arms looks really good, atleast from my POV. too bad i dont know how to use 3DS or any other program other than poser to animate <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

Dark_Soul · September 2004

nice work dude, but the skin doesn't do the quality of the model justice imho <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' />

Shazbot · September 2004

I wish they had the same bone structure, i'd have them on all my weapons already <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

Something that i think needs tweaking is the wrists, they look really skinny for some reason.

frostymoose · September 2004

that's because they are too skinny, shaz.

DragonMech · September 2004

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /> Sechs!

Ratonetwothreetwoone · September 2004

hmmm, looks nice, but 2 things id change is the fingers look a little too pointy imo and i dont really like the skin on the part that goes around the arm to hold the arm plate on, it seems a little.... wrong...

Evil_Ice · September 2004

Ok, well instead of complaining there's that good ol' rule of thumb:
"Do it yourself"

seeing as how that's what I had to do for ... hmm ... this whole thing?

and I didn't ask for personal opinions, or what you think looks wrong, I released it,
one more thing though, I don't want any releases of this model (including texture or model alterations) without my given consent, so be sure and ask first, that's all I'm asking, because I personally don't think anything is wrong with the shape or proportion of the model, and the fingers look pretty well rounded too me, and if your wrist is bigger than that in comparison to your arm, then lose weight...

gg I give up on NS <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />

BAshh · September 2004

i dont see what half the problems with these arms. The textrues arent great no, but dude ice is a modeller, and animator, not skinner.. and its damned good for someone whos not a skinner.

and i've seen these hands in action, guess what? it's great they're different, but not. as i told ice

"i think its crazy how much these look so much like the defaults but so different"

You guys are too critical, i can understand CC when people want it, but if they dont, dont give it :\

Evil_Ice · September 2004

thanks morethandead, that's pretty much all I wanted/expected to hear out of at least one of the people in these forums... that at least makes it worth the trouble

axman · September 2004

Here my first map done.

<img src='http://img82.exs.cx/img82/5882/NewHands.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Evil_Ice · September 2004

looking good axman, glad to see some people are actually doing something about the textures they think I did such a **** job on, looking really good, I like the detail on the flesh, but again my only complaints are the thumb nail is a bit short (compare to mine) and it looks kinda dark, when its that dark its hard to see the detail of the texture <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />
keep it up though, looks nice

Ratonetwothreetwoone · September 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Evil_Ice @ Sep 11 2004, 08:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Ok, well instead of complaining there's that good ol' rule of thumb:
"Do it yourself"

seeing as how that's what I had to do for ... hmm ... this whole thing?

and I didn't ask for personal opinions, or what you think looks wrong, I released it,
one more thing though, I don't want any releases of this model (including texture or model alterations) without my given consent, so be sure and ask first, that's all I'm asking, because I personally don't think anything is wrong with the shape or proportion of the model, and the fingers look pretty well rounded too me, and if your wrist is bigger than that in comparison to your arm, then lose weight...

gg I give up on NS <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
jesus christ i wasnt complaining, i said id change, iiid chaange, liike if these hands get applied to alot of things id prolly change them for my use... sorry if you misunderstood that.... but why are so many of the modellers around here so

i dont even know what word to use, seems like another brig to me..

and i didnt say " omg your model sucks **** you should shoot yourself for even think of modeling this piece of **** " i said it looked good and i really think that...

sorry for telling you what i thought, ill never do it again...

Evil_Ice · September 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rat12321 @ Sep 12 2004, 12:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> sorry for telling you what i thought, ill never do it again...  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
good <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

and I find it kinda funny that people can't draw a conclusion here...
"all the modellers" ... it MUST be the modellers then... it couldn't possibly be something else that would make all the modellers react the same way could it?

nah... of coarse not... no reason to make modelers angry and want to stop doing stuff for the public because instead of being grateful they reply with their own opinions, and honestly I speak for alot of modellers when I say we don't wanna hear your opinions, we do have at least a trace of our own creativity when doing our own models, so we at least have an idea on what we want it to look like, so unless we ASK for suggestions, we really don't wanna hear it...

getting back on track here, I will say it again, I feel pretty comfortable with my model and even my texture, so if your opinion differs, make your own, ask my permission, then release it if you want to, RSX and AxMan are both doing awesome jobs so far, even though I've only seen one map from Ax and a partial map from RSX, they both looked much better than mine in their own ways, and I'm not in the least offended by it, I like to see people improve my work... I just don't wanna hear that my stuff sucks or could be better, because ya know I'm trying damnit...

Shazbot · September 2004

Sorry Evil, you got a great model there. Hope to see it on many more models to come.

Swiftspear · September 2004

So you just got to animate with the high poly LMG and we're cool <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

SnappyCrunch · September 2004

Thanks, Ice. I've been following the WIP thread, and I've felt guilty that I didn't step in to help. But then, I don't have any skills in the modeling/animating/meshing/skinning arena, so I don't know what I could have done. At any rate, I love the look of these hands, and I look forward to attempting to compile them into my current v_ models.

I hope you aren't too dispirited by the experience. There are at least some people who really appreciate the work you've done, even if we don't deserve such fine things.

Evil_Ice · September 2004

Thanks snappy, honestly that's all I need to hear most of the time, that makes it all worth it...

and this one is just for people like snappy, morethandead, and bashh of coarse:
<img src='http://ice.nsarmslab.com/HP_knife_sshot03.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
high poly knife ftw!
even though it is 104 LESS polies than the default <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' />

Wake_Jumper · September 2004

i want it.

BAshh · September 2004

damn nice knife icey!

and yeah sadly he's right... unless CC is asked for it's probably not welcomed but most people dont say anything about it just to be nice...

CaptainPanaka · September 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Evil_Ice @ Sep 12 2004, 11:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> [...]

high poly knife ftw!
even though it is 104 LESS polies than the default <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
lol.... but it really looks better. n1 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' />

SWAT_Pointman · September 2004

These would be so easy to put on if NS team botherd to put arm refs on <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' />

[mrel] Ice's "high Poly" La Hands

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