Rines Are Extremely Overpowered In Co
RinesAlwaysWin
Join Date: 2004-09-13 Member: 31674Members
Join Date: 2004-09-13 Member: 31674Members
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Since Beta5, 95 percent of co games are won by marines, everyone always stacks marines. I would like to see a beta 5a haha <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> with the following changed
Limit the GL for the marines (say 1 per 6 marines, Too many noobs use them)
Fix the wave respawn system (Everyone complains in the NSArmsLab Servers about it, beta4a was better. Vi va la 1.04!
Most people would have to agree on this.
Since Beta5, 95 percent of co games are won by marines, everyone always stacks marines. I would like to see a beta 5a haha <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> with the following changed
Limit the GL for the marines (say 1 per 6 marines, Too many noobs use them)
Fix the wave respawn system (Everyone complains in the NSArmsLab Servers about it, beta4a was better. Vi va la 1.04!
Most people would have to agree on this.
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you'll find more people receptive to your ideas if you state then in clear concise ways. Also suggestions go in the I & S forums
just be thankful that ns is still around. I suggest classic ns... way better
... steam ate my babies
Ive played games where aliens have dominated for 25 minutes (30min timelimit) but most of the higher lifeforms happen by chance to die at the same time and the hive (at 100%) was destroyed within 30 seconds by a single marine rush.
Because jp rushes are far more effective than fade rushes
And because fades are easy targets but jetpacks are impossible to finish off if they have any idea about what they're doing
Whoops mixed something up
Web has always been a game ender and the new carapace and redemption make onos a real best.
However, if marines take an early advantage, it can be hard to come back.
Let's say I rush shotgun then jp...I rush to the hive, spawn kill forever till the rest of the HA with gls (nubs <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->), come and finish the job with me.
The only problem is that JPs are too mobile now. You used to have to land for a second to regain fuel and that gave aliens a chance to take them down. Now you have to rely on mid air hits which can become more luck than judgement in a server with lag.
RUSH XENO!
2. if team sucks -> gorge and web, else -> 3
3. rush focus
4. rush adrenaline
6. gorge and spit jetpackers to death while webbing
Sure way to win a game if you can get the first 2 levels and your team-mates have a drop of intelligence.
The only fix needed is really 3 required for the GL, and/or binding it to damage 2 as a prereq (effectively making it cost 4 points). The problem arises after all when you have JP/GL spam, and theres not a single spot in the Hiveroom where you're not taking damage.
Or 100% GL FF to the firer and 100% on FF on servers. Whatever. I recently bothered to play a good few large pub games though, and this is really what happens. Take the co_faceoff Hive for example - fill it up with GL spam from 3 people, and 9 people using conventional weaponry, and it becomes nigh impossible to be effective (because only Fades and Oni stay alive at all - Webs, Lerks and Skulks are all either cleared or they flee through the vents into MS).
ban.
All you need is webgorge and fairly good focusfade.
You must be confusing the beta4a respawn with Cheesy's respawn system, which was pretty good. Although IMO i think that if the Day of Defeat spawn system were used it would be even better.
I do believe you'll find that 83.57% of statisitics are made up on the spot.
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There is a certain mentality carried across the vast majority of gamers: no matter what, winning is best. If there is a perceived advantage of marines winning the majority of the time, then they will be stacked. I really have not noticed a significant marine advantage, unless the teams are skill/team stacked...not to say I'm not seeing that happen a lot.
And dont charge at the marines 5 deaths in a row at the beginning of the round and then wander why they have armour level 1, shotguns , and resupply before you even have your first upgrade.
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Takin into consideration that 2/3 of the earth is covered by ocean.
I think the idea of Combat games are for aliens to defend and stop people getting Experience for the jetpacks until about 5 minutes from the timelimit.
to begin...<ul><li>ailens are acting offensive, when on the hud, it declares "Defending"</li><li>a lot of marines get downright angry as soon as their affected by web, and sometimes i have witnessed kicking of gorges useing webs, i stood up for them and you know the rest</li><li>in short of #2, ailens are afraid to use their resources</li><li>the same goes for Xenocide, without kickage... thought id say that.</li><li>unfortiunaly, most servers set their time with impossable to live with time limits, thus making ailens think...</li><li>"we better take the cc before 30 mins are up"</li><li>your right, marines are always the 1st to have 4 members to the ailens 1 member</li><li>smaller lifeforms arent doing it right, a skulk is a trapper, thus it would be best for the skulk to trapcamp.</li><li>a good idea, is leap, if trapcamping fails get up close to your enemy, i have seen too many cases where ailens run blindly tward a marine, killing the skulk before it gets within a mile, silence also works good.</li><li>i cant think of anything else.</li></ul>
Such as :
Combat games on large servers without FF and a longer timer make GLs unbalanced.
Not from personal experience, but just kinda eyeing that, it's probably correct.
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Takin into consideration that 2/3 of the earth is covered by ocean. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
and dont forget that 5/4 of the worlds population sucks at fractions