Strats For Dealing With Armoury Hupers

Bishop_X · September 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">yes, all pub comm have had to deal with</div> Bassicly this is a request to the community in 2 parts

1: please unless your uber-1337 and go go on 10/1 kill streaks regulaly as a ninja, dont get more than 3 clips with an lmg

2: what are the best ways of dealing with those that ignore part 1?

TheMunch8 · September 2004

recycle the armory if it is not upgrading. I say go to a hive, then i give them an armory there after they build me some stuff, and get me rts. but an armory in base is asking for trouble a lot of the time in the first parts of the game. pub games can be won or lost within the first 3-5 minutes, so don't let them waste time humping away

Sarisel · September 2004

Play on better servers. Too much effort to go through recycling/relocating armories.

TOmekki · September 2004

block the armory with cc's. also make sure other buildings are far away enough so they cant be used as steps. (although i doubt the general armory humper will have enough wits for that)

if FF is on, drop yourself a shotty/hmg and if u see someone humping jump out and blast him. downside for that is that its highly likely some other nub will jump in the chair and proceed to wreak havoc in your base =/

the_x5 · September 2004

Well for one

<span style='color:red'>Not putting IP's anywhere near armories.</span>

1. it prevents the very annoying (and devestating) telefrag when you are going to get ammo

2. if you put the armory near your "secondary base" like say you are in ns_hera reception room and have double. Put the armory in double. Marines that have to walk to get ammo at a waypoint are more apt to do something when they get there.

When I relocate (part of my usu strat as I dislike MS bases), I will not drop armory until after the RT round up has begun and the new base is going up. I always prefer and ElecRT-Armory-PG combination (called ERATPs by me) over turret farming. (usually try to mine the ERATPs as well)

Ninja PG craziness, definitely need the phaseEQ plugin as I do often have a ERAP at every res node where there isn't a base or it isn't double. (double depends on a lot of factors)

Rapier7 · September 2004

At every res node?!?!?!?

Sorry, you fail at NS.

Deus_Ex_Machina · September 2004

I like the blocking it with CCs idea. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' />

the_x5 · September 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rapier7 @ Sep 16 2004, 06:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> At every res node?!?!?!?

Sorry, you fail at NS. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
<i><b>If</b></i> I can afford it jack-arse. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' />

*gives rapier7 the finger like a true mooninite, then spanks him with moonrocks*

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I do often</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

My bad I should have added "like" after often to better where it's something I would <i>like</i> to do <i>if</i> I can afford it. I'm a perfect? No. Will I try to set up a ERAP stupidly when I need to be efficient with my budget? No. Come on man gimme a freaking break. Do you want me to go though an nit-pick all of your threads and posts?

Rapier7 · September 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (agentx5 @ Sep 16 2004, 08:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rapier7 @ Sep 16 2004, 06:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> At every res node?!?!?!?

Sorry, you fail at NS. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
<i><b>If</b></i> I can afford it jack-arse. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' />

*gives rapier7 the finger like a true mooninite, then spanks him with moonrocks*  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
The fact that you even have a strategy like that means you're clearly dominating the alien team, in which you should just take down that one hive you've kept them at for the past 30 minutes.

Jeez, finish the game, don't have elaborate strategies that you can only use when you're marines were dominating the game in the first place.

the_x5 · September 2004

The most important thing is the one I stressed in red, do not put IPs and armories near each other. You may think it's funny when your marines get telefragged but they'll hate it and if they are HA's or something it's gonna cost you res as well as morale (in human resources).

Other than that, just drop armories as you need them. The best defense is a good offense and the best way to keep that offense strong is to keep a good supply of ammo. IF your marines are having to fire a lot and are at some point where their progress is being slowed, drop and armory and save res on having to equip ammo. Don't be afraid to drop multiple armories, just remember to recycle the useless ones. Use wisely.

Enough said.

Bait_Boy · September 2004

You dont need full ammo, but 50 extra rounds arnt gonna cut it if youre gonna go out of base (IE res capping, attacking, ect, ect thats outside of base)
so is getting to 100 ammo so you dont bug the comm after the first skulk that you need ammo considered armory humping?

Bishop_X · September 2004

having 100 extra ammo(two clips) is fine, espesially if you can actually kill skulks, but the people who are 1/8 who load up on 250/50 are the problem.

Lofung · September 2004

when i find a humper i just recycle the armory.

hide one someone where in the map, get it upgraded and hand out ha/jp/weapons there

crisano · September 2004

Devs should add a reverse electrification process. It's not an upgrade but an option on the armory where if you turn it on, it will electrify all marines within its close proximity. It won't do damage to aliens since people will just build armory walls. So if a Comm wants everyone to go through a PG, he'll just beacon, turn on the humperzapper option, and either marines die a the armory or die at/kill the hive.

Nadagast · September 2004

humperzapper is quite a funny word

ZiGGY · September 2004

Rapier7 · September 2004

Ahahahahahahhahahahah.

I give this a thumbs up. Go back to the old collision coding!

SpaceJesus · September 2004

noob, hasn't even changed his fps_max...

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

the_x5 · September 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lofung @ Sep 17 2004, 03:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> when i find a humper i just recycle the armory.

 </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Haha! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> Don't know if this would always be a good idea, but if it works I guess then use it...

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>hide one someone where in the map, get it upgraded and hand out ha/jp/weapons there</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Good idea but you better hope none of the aliens will destroy it. Your taking a chance on the enemy.

Bob_hackr · September 2004

Recyle it, simple enough <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

TheMunch8 · September 2004

For pubs, it might be nice to be able to turn off the free ammo. Many will claim YOU NEED BETTER MARINES. but sometimes, you just have to deal. Or a setting that won't let you get ammo until youve killed a skulk or 2.

Problem with stuff like that is it makes it more complicated for the commander. And flayra has said many times he wants to keep it simple. or as simple as possible :-p

Fat_Man_Little_Coat · September 2004

Theres really little to nothing you can do about armoury humpers. Its pretty much part of the game. I usually drop an armoury if I have enough res at the hive I'm assaulting, but you'll still get humpers.

Sorry! But welcome to NS

SpaceJesus · September 2004

DC_Darkling · September 2004

Now how to build that armory. lol.

Point is indeed place it away from the IP. And from now you can only nag. ALOT

Thats it basicly

Gecko_God_Of_Dooom · September 2004

I usualy will just place armory around the map, and then i get a humper maybe 1/100 of the time. plus, dropping sgs not at base realy helps modivate the marine team to be where teh sgrs are. Think of Dropping Sgs where you want them to be like becon is for dogs

SLizer · September 2004

Placing armories around map is really really surprisingly efficient you can drop sgs virtually to any place with in 10s + you have those sgs dropped on field. Just played one game of origin wiht 0.75:1 KD ration rines and i had outpost to the rt next to mess with armory, I think that the simple 10res armory won the game. they had filled the room next to port engine with oc`s and dcs and while fighting over bile-siege i didnt have _single_ med ammo request from there in 10mins. That was once again really good game you get one of those in week and thats what keeps you in game...... <3 to win with bad rines vs 2hive aliens. AT the end of the game there were this one guy asking: How the HE## did we win that one!

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Jalal · September 2004

nice one about the sgs in the field. must try for that. armory humping is one of the most annoying things a comm has to put up with. i think that you need to have the patience of a saint to comm a game with more than one humper on your team.

125-150 in the LMG at the beginning of the game and then thats it. no more do you require. bug the comm for ammo in the field. expect that by the time you die, the comm is ready to give you sgs and other funky stuff. I once took out four skults at double resource in tanith with only a 100 in the clip. you dont need more than that. now if only someone will tell the rest of them that.

Arete · September 2004

No way to really solve it, people just think they need all this ammo. Humping armories in the beginning of the game is by far the least annoying. Its when you are yelling PHASE PHASE EVERYONE PHASE! at a crucial moment in the game and people are humping armories. Thats when it really drives me crazy.

Edit: I just realize how old my forum account is, those were fun days back when NS first released! Where armory humping was well, fun!

TheAdj · September 2004

I just repeat "get off the armory" until everyone leaves it, or I get a few stragglers, in which case I call them out by name and tell them to get the hell off the armory. Calling people out by name and reinforcing that you can see them doing it usually makes people stop. "Hey <name>, YES you that just stopping humping the armory because I said your name, go through the phase, stop humping the armory every time you spawn". Continually repeat until they listen or are blatantly stupid, in which case don't do anything for them the rest of the game, because they're useless.

crisano · September 2004

For Adj: They should create roaming packmules that humps the armory for you, then drops ammo around for you when you need it. Packmules named Adj. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

DC_Darkling · September 2004

just say that the freak who keeps humping the armory won't get ANYTHING.
mute him to be damn sure.

Strats For Dealing With Armoury Hupers

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