<span style='color:white'>Gorge is correct, but next time, simply contact a moderator. You know, one of the guys who have the job you have not <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--></span>
Phew, this holds as far as I can say the record for the longest nuke in the history of these forums. Never let it be said I don't try to preserve valid discussion if it's possible.</span>
I dont believe that at all, a 560 with a promethia mach 2 couldn't be overclocked to 6 Ghz. If u used liquid nitrogen u could almost get to 6 ghz. But a water cooled system?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->?? No f***ing way.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'd give it 2-3 years tops and we'll see 6Ghz processors on the market... god bless exponential growth.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
IMO, not going to happen. Not only transistor counts, performance and 1/feature size have been growing exponentially, but also the prices for Fabs to make these processors and power usage. Exponential trends are NOT forever sustainable.
At one point it will begin to break, power usage is now at ~100 W(Intel, who are the most nutorious for ramping clock frequencies even if IPCs and power usage hurts as a result), it took around 3 years for intel to double the frequency last time, and apparently in some Intel slides 'Moores law' has been revised to every few years, it was originally every year but got revised to every ~1.5 years shortly after. As for how long ago AMD had half the clock frequency on their top of the line as they do today, that was even longer ago wasn't it? Intel has scrapped it's plans for tejas(it's next gen p4 chip which was going to continue to scale clock and transistor counts as if nothing had happened!) and is trying to push for dual core processors(a way to get more performance without increasing the clockspeed), not just for servers but for desktops. AMD introduced an on die memory controller, x86-64 and kept it's short pipeline instead of ramping clockspeed at the cost of IPC's to appeal to Joe Sixpack's MegaHurtz craze and now Intel is stuck playing catch up on the desktop. Intel has also begun trying to redirect attention to performance instead of clock frequency with it's new naming scheme for processors which makes NO mention of what clock frequency it is running at. The p4 architecture is a dead end, it won't be the basis for new architectures, Intel is now focusing on using it's lower power, lower frequency chip the pentium M(which is very good chip IMO.). It was originally for notebooks and is based of the pentium 3 architecture.
edit: <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->With 6ghz we could run doom3 in software mode on high fps... would be neat.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No chance in hell <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
<!--QuoteBegin-Stewie+Sep 26 2004, 02:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stewie @ Sep 26 2004, 02:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wonder how hot my processor would get if I overclocked it to that kind of speeds <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Without cooling?
Well... It'd melt most likely and then you'd have no processor.
Be funny if someone OCd so high, the voltage simply overloads the processor and totaly melts it before the fail-safes kick in. Kinda like that "What happens when you take your heatsink off" videos from Tom's Hardware I saw floating around. Was it on this forums, or the DoD ones.... *mumble mumble*
Either way, my friend right now is looking deeply into building up a totally "silent" PC, basically one with as little fans and as much heatsinks as possible, and I just HAD to show him this. That, and the 6ghz made us sputter for a few minutes. Just guessing, since Stilt hasn't gotten into the specifics of how they got to where they're at (or if they did, i'm assuming its all the way in the end somewhere, and I haven't shifted through all those pages yet) but that IS liquid nitrogen coming off his cylinder heatsink, neh? If so, how the heck did he pump that thing through it...
Off-Topic, seriously, I thought this thread had exploded with posts, and then I see the biggest nuke fest ever. What the heck was going on here... Nemisis must have b0rked his little edit button by now... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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GOGO fullscreen pyramid.
Phew, this holds as far as I can say the record for the longest nuke in the history of these forums. Never let it be said I don't try to preserve valid discussion if it's possible.</span>
IMO, not going to happen. Not only transistor counts, performance and 1/feature size have been growing exponentially, but also the prices for Fabs to make these processors and power usage. Exponential trends are NOT forever sustainable.
At one point it will begin to break, power usage is now at ~100 W(Intel, who are the most nutorious for ramping clock frequencies even if IPCs and power usage hurts as a result), it took around 3 years for intel to double the frequency last time, and apparently in some Intel slides 'Moores law' has been revised to every few years, it was originally every year but got revised to every ~1.5 years shortly after. As for how long ago AMD had half the clock frequency on their top of the line as they do today, that was even longer ago wasn't it? Intel has scrapped it's plans for tejas(it's next gen p4 chip which was going to continue to scale clock and transistor counts as if nothing had happened!) and is trying to push for dual core processors(a way to get more performance without increasing the clockspeed), not just for servers but for desktops. AMD introduced an on die memory controller, x86-64 and kept it's short pipeline instead of ramping clockspeed at the cost of IPC's to appeal to Joe Sixpack's MegaHurtz craze and now Intel is stuck playing catch up on the desktop. Intel has also begun trying to redirect attention to performance instead of clock frequency with it's new naming scheme for processors which makes NO mention of what clock frequency it is running at. The p4 architecture is a dead end, it won't be the basis for new architectures, Intel is now focusing on using it's lower power, lower frequency chip the pentium M(which is very good chip IMO.). It was originally for notebooks and is based of the pentium 3 architecture.
edit: <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->With 6ghz we could run doom3 in software mode on high fps... would be neat.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No chance in hell <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
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Rediculous
<span style='color:white'>Stay on topic.</span>
We're too close.
<span style='color:white'>Stay on topic.</span>
Loosen up!
*explode*
Nuke-o-rama!
On topic: I'd like a 6GHz processor.
imagine the power!
I was totally like "OMG that topic grew fast" and when I opened it 3/4 of the posts were nuked... What in the world were you guys talking about? XD
Without cooling?
Well... It'd melt most likely and then you'd have no processor.
Well... It'd melt most likely and then you'd have no processor.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nope, if the heat sink is still on there it ought to shutdown before taking damage.
Either way, my friend right now is looking deeply into building up a totally "silent" PC, basically one with as little fans and as much heatsinks as possible, and I just HAD to show him this. That, and the 6ghz made us sputter for a few minutes. Just guessing, since Stilt hasn't gotten into the specifics of how they got to where they're at (or if they did, i'm assuming its all the way in the end somewhere, and I haven't shifted through all those pages yet) but that IS liquid nitrogen coming off his cylinder heatsink, neh? If so, how the heck did he pump that thing through it...
Off-Topic, seriously, I thought this thread had exploded with posts, and then I see the biggest nuke fest ever. What the heck was going on here... Nemisis must have b0rked his little edit button by now... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->