Ingame Missing Texture Problems
Prank
Join Date: 2003-02-09 Member: 13311Members, Constellation
Join Date: 2003-02-09 Member: 13311Members, Constellation
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Move to different grid position then? I don't know, although similar error used to be in hera ready room.
Like i said the bugs got more complex <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
here is a bsp to download including a .wad
and plz dont move the topic. i did it on purpose because i had almost no answers the last time that means ppl dont read this on this forum <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
for ur problem, try shiftin the entire map across 8 units
its as if you did a fast vis and not a full vis.
things are being drawn miles away from where they are.
And just about everything carves into everything else making more polys than needed. take these lights for example...
<img src='http://www.madmee.eclipse.co.uk/brush002.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
move them down by 1 unit, null the top and then the big flat roof doesnt get chopped into 4+ polys.
there are thousands of lights about that look like they were added after you made the rest of the map and therefore you have just stuck a 6 sided shape to a wall which in turn carves into the wall. even if you didnt want to imbed them in the walls you could still do like i just mentioned and move them 1 unit away and null the unseen side.
Also you windows shown here...
<img src='http://www.madmee.eclipse.co.uk/brush003.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
could be just 1 brush so its 1 poly not 4.
if you work on your brushwork it will reduce your r_speeds which i notice are a tad high in some areas....
<img src='http://www.madmee.eclipse.co.uk/poly003.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
(there are a lot of areas where it reaches 900+)
...and it will probably fix some of the vis problems.
there is something really wrong with one of the doorways as you can pass into the void one way, to contine into the next part of the map but you carnt go back (as you probably know) which suggest there is some kind of entity or brush there perhaps?
but quite frankly i would expect vis problems with a floor hacked up like this....
<img src='http://www.madmee.eclipse.co.uk/brush004.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
there are also some other things you have missed such as...
<img src='http://www.madmee.eclipse.co.uk/WTH002.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
and
<img src='http://www.madmee.eclipse.co.uk/wft001.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
also the is a huge annoying bit of glass right above marine start...
<img src='http://www.madmee.eclipse.co.uk/comproblem.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
and the elevator in MS starts at the top and u have to move under it to make it move down, then it comes down quick, hits you on the head and goes back up!! v.annoying.
However the funniest thing was when you join a team you get completly random times displayed. and its about the siege door not even the main door!!
heres the first complete so you can see the game time...
<img src='http://www.madmee.eclipse.co.uk/lol001.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
heres the rest....
<img src='http://www.madmee.eclipse.co.uk/lol012.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
notice the last 2 are in the ready room!! i hadent even joined any team yet.
P.S like the secret room.. hehehe
P.P.S i found around 20 problem brushes. and have screenies of them if u need to see where they are
In the fourth screenshot you can use vertex manipulation to create one large brush that has all of it's vertices connected with the edges of brushes that make up the outer wall.
hmm you could, in fact he probably did, it was most likely the engine that made the mess because those pillar things carve into the floor and its a curved wall room. there are several possible solutions.
1) move the pillar things to func_walls so they dont carve into the floor (if thats done dont forget to null any face you carn or dont want to be seen. else it will draw too many faces again.
or 2) play with the floor brushes and reduce the amount of polys by making your own better ones.
and yep i did a full vis also (in a batch compiler) Quark never use fast vis and fast vis seems to get rid of those bugs but the r_speeds are unbareable
It's like MADMEE said about those pillars. You don't want faces of other brushes like those pillars flush against the floor/ceiling brushes, because the smaller brush will break up the face sitting flush against it. Even that one room with all those rectangular pillars. All of those brushes add up and split the faces of the brushes that those pillars rest upon.
<img src='http://members1.chello.nl/~m.verbeek08/Screen01.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
so if you do want to go around tidying your brush work then you could do what i suggested before, either func_wall, rebuild floor, or even now i think of it you can leave the pillars as world brushes just rebuild them slightly shorter so they dont carve into the floor (dont forget the ceiling while your at it)
i know there is no bad brush just around there but im beginning to think that the more complex your leaf thread is the more likely you are to run into these problems. (see thread i posted other day about that same kinda problem <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=81494' target='_blank'>here</a>)
so with all these unnecessary polys its just jacking up your leaf thread when it could be simpler.
Also i remeber something in this thread...
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=80924' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...showtopic=80924</a>
....about floating point coords and quark. maybe that could be something to do with it. (wolfys post are most helpfull)
heres a zip of all the screenies i took. <a href='http://www.madmee.eclipse.co.uk/prank.zip' target='_blank'>all screenies</a>. look carefully some of the things are hard to spot <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->