Cs:source Hl2's Only Multiplayer

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  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    Single-player is where it's at.
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  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    NS shouldn't be too far down the line, IIRC it's like 3rd most popular mod right after CS and DoD. That's up to Flayra though.

    Another mod I'm hoping to have Sourcified is The Specialists.... That would just be... teh pwn.
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  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    If there is a manipulator in HL2 MP its gonna be a hog to do, because it relys on the physics engine for a start, then you've got to factor in that whatevers being thrown is going to have to be a serverside calculation that would be sent to all the clients (The calculation couldn't be clientside because you'd have to involve damage and hitting other players) which would cause an awful amount of lag whenever someone decided "Lets use my manipulator" so realistically to have a manipulator "war" all the map would be is a box, with a single barrel in.

    Sure the manipulator looks good in Single Player but thats because the game can focus on calculating the physics and not getting a computer half-way round the world to do it. Most (if not all the physics) were client-side because while the bottles flew around when your grenade went off they never did any damage and usually bounced off. Barrels were slightly different because they could do damage. But there was usually a pause while the server decided what was happening. Because they could deal damage.

    Mind you I may be talking complete bull because this is an educated guess but having manipulators does seem like a bad idea as far as server strain is concerned.
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-JediYoshi+Sep 29 2004, 04:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JediYoshi @ Sep 29 2004, 04:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This shouldn't be so out of the dark. cliffe thew this concept out in an interview a while ago ( edit: july )

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->CS-Nation: Is CS: Source the only multiplayer game shipping with Half-Life 2?

    cliffe: Half-Life 2 will come with CS: Source. Right now, we do not plan to include any other multiplayer games with Half-Life 2.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That sounds a MUCH more likely statement than "cs:s is hl2's multiplayer". Its not like this is the first time someone goes all "OMG HL2 HAS NO MP OF ITS OWN, IT USES CS:S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111"
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  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Well, I'm still hopeful I can run people over with the Combine helicopter/manatee thing...
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  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    DM would be nice, but it would become obsolete after a few months.

    Does anyone play HLDM now? last time i checked there were ~5 servers. 1 had people in it, 2 were passworded, and the other 2 had pings of 500+

    I'll be playing the Singleplayer for months anyway
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  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Also take into consideration the fact that there are ~30 OpFor servers up with good pings.
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  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Sep 29 2004, 03:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Sep 29 2004, 03:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also take into consideration the fact that there are ~30 OpFor servers up with good pings. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But Opposing Force DM is blatently better than HLDM
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  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Codewise, plain DM could be created in about.... ... 5 minutes. Modelwise, there's nothing to add. Only thing to worry about is levels...
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  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Does anyone play HLDM now? last time i checked there were ~5 servers. 1 had people in it, 2 were passworded, and the other 2 had pings of 500+<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's after NS and TFC.
    (current players) (current servers) (player minutes/month)
    Half-Life DeathMatch 563 437 17.059 million
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  • tommydtommyd Creator of ns_tanith, co_pulse and co_faceoff Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 40Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer
    it's probably better that the mod community handle HL2DM anyways. i wouldn't trust Valve to make a DM game after they have been overrun by CS. ironically enough, we will probably have to mod CS:S to get HL2DM. if you notice in the HL2 vids, there is no 'multiplayer' button at ALL in the HL2 main menu. all it says is 'new game'/'load game' basically. CS:S is a different executable. hopefully the HL2 SDK will have the netcode/multiplayer code base for HL2 and not CS:S.

    i'd love to work on HL2DM if a competent mod team shows up. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+Sep 28 2004, 07:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Sep 28 2004, 07:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Really, I don't care, because anything cool that's left out is just going to be modded in  <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    exactly

    ~edit~

    Besides, Oz DM 3.0 is waaaay better than just plain ol' HMDM.

    Totally customizable variables. (velocities, wepons stuff, players stuff, you name it, it's in a cfg file)
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  • marcemarce Join Date: 2004-08-24 Member: 30869Members
    I'm sure they'll mod in everything we hope for. and a huge pile more that we will wish we had hoped for, and then a lot of steaming crap as well, but we'll ignore that part...
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  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+Sep 29 2004, 06:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Sep 29 2004, 06:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If there is a manipulator in HL2 MP its gonna be a hog to do <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's been done since a certain beta...
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    This is what we call abusing the mod community for profit.
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  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited September 2004
    Yeah.. how dare they take the #1 ranking multiplayer game of all time and put a better version of it into their new product...
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  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    I don't think they're really too mad about CS being included (y'know outside of those jumping on the CS-hate bandwagon because all the cool kids are doing it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )... I think the issue that's getting people worried is that there might not be a HL2 DM.

    I'm none too worried personally but... uh... stuff =3
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  • marcemarce Join Date: 2004-08-24 Member: 30869Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Sep 29 2004, 07:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Sep 29 2004, 07:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah.. how dare they take the #1 ranking multiplayer game of all time and put a better version of it into their new product... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    bastardi!

    yeah cs:s will still be fun!

    I haven't heard anything about NS:S but I seem to remember it being mentioned... Is that in the pipeline?
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  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-marce+Sep 29 2004, 07:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (marce @ Sep 29 2004, 07:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Sep 29 2004, 07:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Sep 29 2004, 07:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah.. how dare they take the #1 ranking multiplayer game of all time and put a better version of it into their new product... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    bastardi!

    yeah cs:s will still be fun!

    I haven't heard anything about NS:S but I seem to remember it being mentioned... Is that in the pipeline? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    look in the announcements, theres an interview with nem0 where he mentions it.
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  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Please link those of us smart enough to not venture from the Off-Topic forums. :P
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  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <a href='http://www.naturalselection.pexgames.com/games/halflife/mods/naturalselection/specials/nemesiszero_1/index.html.en' target='_blank'>lazy bum</a>
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  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    ~scratches head~

    did we ever find out what the BUS was? =o
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  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    BUS is the unlinking of special in b5. Obviously. Since that makes it the _special BUS, and so we've exhausted all the lame "OMG RIDING THE SHORTBUS" jokes in one fell swoop.

    Genius, really. Voogrus genius coding abilitys are like a dear horse corpse disposal facility.
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Sep 29 2004, 07:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Sep 29 2004, 07:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah.. how dare they take the #1 ranking multiplayer game of all time and put a better version of it into their new product... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    devils advocate just to be different HOW CRUEL YOU ARE
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  • UKchaosUKchaos Join Date: 2002-08-10 Member: 1132Members
    Didnt the Bus die when um.. that dude left.. damn i forgot his name..
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  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-UKchaos+Sep 30 2004, 09:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UKchaos @ Sep 30 2004, 09:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Didnt the Bus die when um.. that dude left.. damn i forgot his name.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    XP-Cagey, i presume. As far as i know, no, but then again, i know squat. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    So he didn't mean Max? Or is Max still working on NS? ~tilts head~
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  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Sep 30 2004, 02:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Sep 30 2004, 02:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-UKchaos+Sep 30 2004, 09:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UKchaos @ Sep 30 2004, 09:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Didnt the Bus die when um.. that dude left.. damn i forgot his name.. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    XP-Cagey, i presume. As far as i know, no, but then again, i know squat. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The Bus got.. stopped indefinitely when XP-Cagey left.
    I have heard there is a posibility of Puzl taking up the task of bus development... But that is to be seen..
    I believe Max left before the bus was announced.. Either way, he wasn't working on the BUS, xp-cagey was.. they just both.. left. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    I think we should know what it is if its halted I mean I dont even play ns anymore but still.
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  • UKchaosUKchaos Join Date: 2002-08-10 Member: 1132Members
    edited September 2004
    Well they dont want mods to steal the idea and impliment it before they do. Thats why the BUS its a secret.
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