Remove The Comms Ability To Open/close Doors
pip1
Join Date: 2004-09-06 Member: 31430Members
Join Date: 2004-09-06 Member: 31430Members
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Besides, it's a useful feature.
No.
I say get rid of it again, it was removed for a reason in the first place.
I think they are playing on what they originally posted from <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/sanjii.html' target='_blank'>Part 1 of Six Days in Sanji</a>.
I've saw many games where onoses get killed by doors and elevator because of this feaure
Besides, as Align and [mahn]sawce mentioned, <b>mappers can change the damage their doors do when obstructed</b>. This is one of the variables associated with func_door entities. A better solution would be to lower the damage of the doors/elevators on the offending maps so that they don't insta-gib larger lifeforms.
Second, this requires so much timing if a comm can pull if off, you lose.
Third, STOP KILLING THE COMMANDER, it seems they keep losing things to do.
Second, this requires so much timing if a comm can pull if off, you lose.
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not true you drop meds and and ammo inbetween naps in most pubs over 8v8
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Heh, there is. But its something thats used to infrequently that you've probably never noticed it.
If an onos is that easy to kill then it is either:
A) that player is stupid
or
B) the map was badly designed
I was one of the people who first proposed this idea so let me be the first ot say:
*vote HELL <span style='color:red'>NO</span>*
kthx -_-
NSPlayer: How did that door open?
Ice9: There's ghosts in the game...
NSPlayer: AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
NSPlayer has left the game.
NSPlayer: How did that door open?
Ice9: There's ghosts in the game...
NSPlayer: AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
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That's always fun to do
Besides, some people are stupid and need more direction
This sounds like it should be in I&S instead...
what else are comms supposed to do when theyr bored?,
it serves other purposes to,
clicked a door on a marine on more than 1 occasion when they stupidly ran off in the direct oposite direction to the waypoint.
if your purposely going the wrong way, you better not walk through any doors while im watching, door > <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
again i must reitterate that this patch caused more problems that it fixed and is a complete waste of time. anyone who disagrees can suck it
It is REALLY hard to hit a blinking fade with a door and besides how many doors are there? not many.
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Please what has this patch broken? It is almost all bug fixes and those never hurt anybody if you ask me.
When a door / elv hits an obstruction (player, structure), what should it do? There are two options:
a) stop and wait for the obstruction to go away
b) bounce back from the obstruction
In the case of a), if the door / elv does little or no damage, you can cause it to stop permanently (until the obstruction is removed). Particularly bad with elevators. They go down, don't come back up. This can hurt the team that blocked it too. One newb throws a chamber under the elevator and the onoses can never get up it unless the marines decide to be nice and kill the chamber. Or a door never opens again, because it cannot close.
In the case of b), if the damage is slight, you can make the door / elevator constantly bounce back up fairly easily. By, say, using a couple DC's for your block, so they heal. I'm sure you've all seen this happen. Then you have an elevator that keeps coming back up. Not as bad as in a) but can still be a big problem.
Both of these situations can lead to gameplay issues that the mapmaker doesn't want. Sometimes it's hard to anticipate all the ways in which blocking might be used. So to avoid having to think through a mulititude of gameplay issues with a map and plan the map accordingly (example: if I allow this elevator to be blocked, should there be another route added? How difficult or possible will the obstacle be for either side to remove, and how does this affect balance in the map?), many mappers probably opt to have their elvs / doors instagib anything in the way. Problem solved, you don't have to think about all the ways in which players might break the balance of the map.
If these suppostions are true, don't expect to see doors / elevators do no or little damage. Perhaps "some" damage might work, but again, it's something that the mapmaker has to think through and plan for when balancing the map, which I'm sure is difficult enough as it is.
I used to see this all the time in TFC maps. A new map would come out with a door or elv that *didn't* instagib and before you knew it some joker would find a way to break the map by standing in the right place at the right time (although part of the issue there was TFC having maps with custom goals built in that frequently depended on or utilized moving entities; interfereing with the motion of the entities could cause the goals to become unobtainable. Cf, blocking the landing pad on Mooncheese). So the mapmaker ever got a chance to revise the map, viola they would make all moving objects instagib blockages and the problem would be solved.
Yeah, you'd still get the griefers who stand under the elevators or doors, but those can be kicked.
The comm can use the nano grid to open and close stuff, it makes perfect story sense, and good functional sense.