Using Ns With More Than 2 Speakers

enemy_zenemy_z Join Date: 2004-05-20 Member: 28783Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Is it possible in NS?</div> Perhaps this isn't the right place to post this, so if it should be elsewhere just say so. Cheers.

Has anybody managed to get NS to work with more than 2 speakers? That is to say, they have got it working with 4 speakers or 5.1 surround sound (or better).

Perhaps the halflife engine doesn't support it?

Comments

  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    i got 5.1 workin fine. my friend runs 7.1, still has surround.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I'm using 5.1 surround headphones. Try making sure that windows has them set up properly:

    1) Go to control panel > Sounds and Audio Devices
    2) Under the tabs 'volume' & 'audio' hit the advanced buttons
    3) Select 5.1 speakers.

    Hopw that helps.
  • enemy_zenemy_z Join Date: 2004-05-20 Member: 28783Members
    Thanks for the little guide.

    My system was already set to quadraphonic already (I have only 4 speakers).

    All 4 speakers work with normal programs like winamp, etc.

    They also work when playing the background music before you join a game in NS, but then it just drops to the front 2 speakers when the game actually starts.

    Seems very odd...
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    You might want to check the audio menu and make sure all the options that you can select are selected. I'm sure one of those will help.
  • enemy_zenemy_z Join Date: 2004-05-20 Member: 28783Members
    Hmmm...

    I have since enabled the other settings of which you speak and it seemed as if it was to no avail, but then I turned the volume right up and very quite sound then came out of them.

    The rear speakers produce a normal volume when play music etc, but when playing half life or any of it's mods, it just produce very quiet audio out of the rear speakers.

    Back to the drawing board... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • enemy_zenemy_z Join Date: 2004-05-20 Member: 28783Members
    Ohkaay....

    I am t3h ub4r n00b....

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I seem to have forgotten that when you make a noise in front of you, it should only be very quiet from behind you. This is the problem when you test it using lmg on a map with noone on it...

    Please move along now.

    Nothing to see here <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    As your problem's solved, and I have a similar problem, I'll just hijack your thread. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    --

    I use AC97 drivers for a AOpen AK77-8X VIA KT400 motherboard, and can't for the life of me get NS, or any app, to use the surround sound properly.

    The mobo has the 3 typical jacks for mike, line-out, and line-in. However, there's some dandy drivers that suppposedly split these into all the channels necessary for 5.1.
    But all it does is mirror sounds from the front speakers, and even then, it does it badly. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Anyone know of a solution, or do I need a proper sound card?

    To add to the complications, whenever I get digested as a marine, the sound scheme switches to PSYCHOTIC.
    :|
    Every time. :S Means I have to alt+tab to restore it. NS heard through the ears of a madman is pretty... wierd.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-BlueNovember+Oct 14 2004, 07:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlueNovember @ Oct 14 2004, 07:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Anyone know of a solution, or do I need a proper sound card?

    To add to the complications, whenever I get digested as a marine, the sound scheme switches to PSYCHOTIC.
    :|
    Every time. :S Means I have to alt+tab to restore it. NS heard through the ears of a madman is pretty... wierd. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A proper sound would probably be needed. Trust me - they are worth it. You can get one for 40-50$ on newegg.

    As for the sound/digestion problem, does it fix itself after you spawn? If so that's a known bug. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dragon_Mech+Oct 14 2004, 06:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Oct 14 2004, 06:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm using 5.1 surround headphones. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    5.1 <u>headphones</u>?!

    For real? What are they? I want some! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dragon_Mech+Oct 14 2004, 08:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Oct 14 2004, 08:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BlueNovember+Oct 14 2004, 07:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlueNovember @ Oct 14 2004, 07:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Anyone know of a solution, or do I need a proper sound card?

    To add to the complications, whenever I get digested as a marine, the sound scheme switches to PSYCHOTIC.
    :|
    Every time. :S Means I have to alt+tab to restore it. NS heard through the ears of a madman is pretty... wierd. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A proper sound would probably be needed. Trust me - they are worth it. You can get one for 40-50$ on newegg.

    As for the sound/digestion problem, does it fix itself after you spawn? If so that's a known bug. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It doesn't, no. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Wait, there's a known bug with these obscure drivers switching sound scheme?! Woa. I knew the BT was getting big... Whew.

    I'll get by with 6th sense until I can find a competition to enter 100 times to win a Audigy Platinum. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    TY
  • ClashenClashen Join Date: 2003-08-22 Member: 20087Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-x5+Oct 14 2004, 04:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (x5 @ Oct 14 2004, 04:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Dragon_Mech+Oct 14 2004, 06:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Oct 14 2004, 06:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm using 5.1 surround headphones. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    5.1 <u>headphones</u>?!

    For real? What are they? I want some! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Got a pair, can't get them to work as 5.1 though, only like normal headphones <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ServilcatServilcat Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4897Members
    I get the same error and I have the sme sound card as you.

    Exept mine changes to 'Under Water' not Pshycotic.
  • Phifth_ElementPhifth_Element Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8233Members
    To fix the water sound when you get digested type room_type 0 in the console. (either that or room_type 1....can't remember).
  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-x5+Oct 14 2004, 08:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (x5 @ Oct 14 2004, 08:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Dragon_Mech+Oct 14 2004, 06:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Oct 14 2004, 06:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm using 5.1 surround headphones. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    5.1 <u>headphones</u>?!

    For real? What are they? I want some! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes indeed. Check out yonder <a href='http://www.bit-tech.net/review/261/' target='_blank'>review</a> (which is the first link I found on google about them). They're very nice. They give you bonus h4x points, since you can actually hear where people are moving around you, whether they're in front or behind and so on.
  • IBTIBT Join Date: 2003-10-22 Member: 21879Members
    Capt morgan has <b><u>6</u></b> speakers, and he gets some fine sorround sound there...

    i wish i had 6 speakers...
  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    Veeeeeeery cool headphones...I'm jealous!
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+Oct 14 2004, 09:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ Oct 14 2004, 09:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-x5+Oct 14 2004, 08:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (x5 @ Oct 14 2004, 08:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Dragon_Mech+Oct 14 2004, 06:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Oct 14 2004, 06:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm using 5.1 surround headphones. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    5.1 <u>headphones</u>?!

    For real? What are they? I want some! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes indeed. Check out yonder <a href='http://www.bit-tech.net/review/261/' target='_blank'>review</a> (which is the first link I found on google about them). They're very nice. They give you bonus h4x points, since you can actually hear where people are moving around you, whether they're in front or behind and so on. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, they pwn pwn pwn pwn pwn. I have been accused of wallh4xorizing 4 times since I got them. XD

    These things should cost you ~60$ and are worth *every* penny. IMO a must for an audiophile that can't have speakers.


    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Veeeeeeery cool headphones...I'm jealous!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Check Zalman's site for a store locator where they might be found: <a href='http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/usa_index.asp' target='_blank'>http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/usa_index.asp</a>
  • Ed_RushEd_Rush Join Date: 2003-12-25 Member: 24739Members, NS1 Playtester
    Half-Life <u>only</u> supports 2 channel stereo reproduction - it is simply not possible to have "surround" sound in NS.
    However you can use as many speakers as you wish, but it will not help whatsoever in the accurate location of sound effects - i.e. footsteps.

    For competitive gameplay i suggest you use to a two front speaker setup.
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ed|Rush+Oct 15 2004, 08:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ed|Rush @ Oct 15 2004, 08:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Half-Life <u>only</u> supports 2 channel stereo reproduction - it is simply not possible to have "surround" sound in NS.
    However you can use as many speakers as you wish, but it will not help whatsoever in the accurate location of sound effects - i.e. footsteps.

    For competitive gameplay i suggest you use to a two front speaker setup. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is what I thought too.
    :S

    Dragon Mech, can you certain? (I may invest in a sound card as a result of your answer, so no pressure. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)

    Anyone else have definate proof?

    Or the solution to the mysterious "Underwater Onos digest sound" issue?
  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ed|Rush+Oct 15 2004, 07:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ed|Rush @ Oct 15 2004, 07:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Half-Life <u>only</u> supports 2 channel stereo reproduction - it is simply not possible to have "surround" sound in NS. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Where are you getting this information? Even if the original version of Half Life only supported a 2 speaker setup, which I seriously doubt, (it was 1998 after all, not 1988) in one of the MANY updates over the years surround support would have been added. And trying NS with surround sound makes it obvious. You can very easily tell that sounds are coming from different directions based on your position in relation to the source of the sound.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-BlueNovember+Oct 15 2004, 09:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlueNovember @ Oct 15 2004, 09:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This is what I thought too.
    :S

    Dragon Mech, can you certain? (I may invest in a sound card as a result of your answer, so no pressure. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I am completely certain that surround sound speakers work in HL/NS. I've known exactly where that marine around the corner was too often to not believe it. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    As for a good, cheap sound card <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=29-118-102&depa=1' target='_blank'>this beauty</a> comes highly recomended and is only 50$.
  • SDJasonSDJason Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16841Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Servilcat+Oct 14 2004, 09:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Servilcat @ Oct 14 2004, 09:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I get the same error and I have the sme sound card as you.

    Exept mine changes to 'Under Water' not Pshycotic. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Had same problem as both of u....

    Turn off EAX and A3d support in sound options.....
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-SDJASON+Oct 15 2004, 01:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SDJASON @ Oct 15 2004, 01:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Had same problem as both of u....
    Turn off EAX and A3d support in sound options..... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If this works... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    /me joins servers across the world and yells "EAT ME!!!!"

    Edit: Typo
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