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ToneeTonee Wub wuBUK Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21926Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">kinda rant+help</div> is silly >:/

I have 300k cable

no firewall - but XP one

And I upload more than I download... *checks right now* Downloadrate 1kb, Upload rate 7kB >:/

How can I get my download faster? I am using standard BT client

since 00:00 GMT

Total Downloaded: 71.0
Total Uploaded: 232.5

HATE <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Comments

  • sawcesawce Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10787Members
    Is it like this for every torrent you try? If it's just one, it's probably crap peers...
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    Check your ports, there's a good chance they're being blocked.

    Also, if you're using a client like Azureus which has a little icon displaying torrent "health" check that. In Azureus, a red face means that it's screwed, yellow face means you have problems and will be experiencing slow speeds while green means all is fine.

    Also, check different torrents, if it has a low amount of seeds, there's a good chance that the bandwidth just isn't there for you to use.
  • ToneeTonee Wub wuB UK Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21926Members, Constellation
    it's all the torrents
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    Don't use standard client, use Azureus.
    Make sure all your ports are forwarded/opened.
    Make sure you leave BT for a good long while, giving it time to pick up speed.
    Make sure you haven't made a pact with satan.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    To be honest, I hate Azureus. I use <a href='http://www.bittornado.com' target='_blank'>BitTornado</a>. It's exactly what I need. That, and Java is a vile demon.

    Anyway, turn off the XP Firewall and get ZoneAlarm. (Buy it or something. Or you can use the free version, if you want.) I use ZoneAlarm Pro with Web Filtering. (4.5, I hate the new version. It gives me all kinds of connection problems.) See if that helps. The XP firewall is absolute crap. You'd be better off putting a spear in a lawn gnome's hand and having it stand in front of your computer shouting "HALT, WHO GOES THERE?"
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    That's weird, because personally I loathe ZoneAlarm with every fibre of passion in my body.
  • panda_de_malheureuxpanda_de_malheureux Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24775Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Oct 14 2004, 11:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Oct 14 2004, 11:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You'd be better off putting a spear in a lawn gnome's hand and having it stand in front of your computer shouting "HALT, WHO GOES THERE?" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Heh, Larry does a good job.

    In a thread a long time ago people were praising the Sygate firewall, try that.
  • ToneeTonee Wub wuB UK Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21926Members, Constellation
    sygate went poop poop, k I'll try zonealarm
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    More things:

    Use a client that alowes you to use one port, then set it to sometihng like 50,000.

    There is a current trend to squelch anyone ussing standard P2P Ports, and if you are ussing the normal ones then you will probably be aquelched.


    oh, and get rid of the XP firewall <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
    I use the <a href='http://krypt.dyndns.org:81/torrent/' target='_blank'>Burst!</a> (website down now?) client. Not so fancy, but its lightweight, keeps all your torrents in one window, and minimizes to the tray. To curb my uploading (my isp counts my uploads x5 towards my monthly limit) I'm using a nice little program called <a href='http://www.netlimiter.com/' target='_blank'>Netlimiter</a> that monitors all programs using internet access and allows you to limit their up/down bandwidths per process. I don't like trusting my BT clients with the upload cap cause I'm paranoid that they limit your download cap when you do that. Also, theres nothing like the feeling of safety that comes with a hardware firewall if you can afford one, I'm using a <a href='http://www.linksys.com/' target='_blank'>Linksys</a> router, plugged into my cable modem and man is that sweet. No fuss to get it started, it just works. All you have to do is log on to it and forward any ports you need when programs don't work (i.e. bittorrent needs a couple, certain games, remote access for winXP, etc).
  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Oct 14 2004, 06:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Oct 14 2004, 06:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That, and Java is a vile demon. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Rofl you can produce junk in any language. That, and you need the right tool for the right job...

    I would strongly suggest changing your BT ports to something higher, as the default range is generally throttled by ISPs. Choose a semi-random number, cuz everyone should have it different.

    Or if there are 1000 peers and 10 seeds, then you're going to be slow regardless of what you do.

    Setting your firewall to "lalala I'm not listening" isn't doing you any favors either.

    I'm guessing you mean 3mbits/second cable, probably with a 384kbit/sec upload. Set your max upload at about 40kbytes per second (never unlimited, at most 80-90% of max to let TCP acks get through), and you should be downloading at least as fast as you upload after a few minutes.
  • Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Thansal+Oct 14 2004, 12:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Oct 14 2004, 12:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There is a current trend to squelch anyone ussing standard P2P Ports, and if you are ussing the normal ones then you will probably be aquelched. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What do you mean by that? Are people ignoring users on the standard BT ports or are 'authorities' monitoring them?
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    I use ABC[Another BitTorrent Client], but how many Seeds are there?
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    hehe, shaggy, that dosn't work.

    it isn't the client that limits your downspeed it is the other peers/server.

    the reason why you get carp downspeeds when behind a firewall is b/c you are not uploading, and thus no one sends you pieces back <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    edit:
    other P2P users are squelching them (generaly b/c things coming through those ports are watched/squelched by colleges and other such things)
  • Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
    Oh I know that users cap thier own speeds, but I remember something about the original client that caps your down according to your up. I get great down speeds, and I do upload, just not as much to saturate my line.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    no, it is an automatic process. Your up speed determins your down speed. That is the point of BT, you HAVE to share <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MrRobotMrRobot Join Date: 2004-09-27 Member: 31961Members
    For your dl speed. Well that depends on tons of things. If there is 100 seeds and 1 person with almost no upload at all, he'll still dl top speed(unless he's fire walled like you). Having a poor share ratio(share ratio effects the attention you get from the seeders/peers) only lowers ur dl speed if there isnt alot to offer people. And even if there isnt much dl going around you'll still get some. But you wont get any attention when ur firewalled T.T'

    Fix ur ports, thats how i did it(i was like you getting 0~1kbs down and about 5~10 kbs upload, fix my ports i get 50kbs down and 5~20 upload, because my pc hosts a network using wingate). I use bitornado because its simple and has all the options i need. Switch off that nasty XP firewall before trying another firewall prog and just check if the dl speeds up. Maybe theres a problem with ur isp(isps can block ports if they want).
  • Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
    I thought it would make more sense if it were automatic, [secret]but seriously I regularly get 100+ k/s and i cap my up to 5 k/s so i dont know how well its working[/secret]
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    I'm really dying to find out what port I should be using. Everyone I ask just gives some vague reply about it not being 6734 / 6881 / 6889 / 6969.

    What is difference in using different ports in terms of connections between peers? BT has always confused me on this.
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dr_Shaggy+Oct 14 2004, 12:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr_Shaggy @ Oct 14 2004, 12:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I thought it would make more sense if it were automatic, [secret]but seriously I regularly get 100+ k/s and i cap my up to 5 k/s so i dont know how well its working[/secret] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    /me mutters something about the future of the BT network.
    Edit2: As long as you keep the torrent running, I forgive you. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    :'(


    Edit:
    Cold-NiTe mate, stop posting miliseconds before me. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    --
    Anyway, AFAIK, there's no real difference. Clients and seeds will use just about any port they can mutally connect on. Any one port won't give you a speed increase just because it's a different port. However, if your firewall blocks one tpyical BT port range, and you switch to another one, you'll get faster speeds as you are now uploading more packets.
  • Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-BlueNovember+Oct 14 2004, 05:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlueNovember @ Oct 14 2004, 05:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Dr_Shaggy+Oct 14 2004, 12:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr_Shaggy @ Oct 14 2004, 12:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I thought it would make more sense if it were automatic, [secret]but seriously I regularly get 100+ k/s and i cap my up to 5 k/s so i dont know how well its working[/secret] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    /me mutters something about the future of the BT network.

    :'( <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ha, hey i leave the torrents to seed after i'm done, i just dont give up so much of my bandwidth.
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dr_Shaggy+Oct 14 2004, 01:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr_Shaggy @ Oct 14 2004, 01:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BlueNovember+Oct 14 2004, 05:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlueNovember @ Oct 14 2004, 05:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Dr_Shaggy+Oct 14 2004, 12:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr_Shaggy @ Oct 14 2004, 12:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I thought it would make more sense if it were automatic, [secret]but seriously I regularly get 100+ k/s and i cap my up to 5 k/s so i dont know how well its working[/secret] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    /me mutters something about the future of the BT network.

    :'( <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ha, hey i leave the torrents to seed after i'm done, i just dont give up so much of my bandwidth. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Point retracted. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-BlueNovember+Oct 14 2004, 12:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlueNovember @ Oct 14 2004, 12:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Cold-NiTe mate, stop posting miliseconds before me. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    --
    Anyway, AFAIK, there's no real difference. Clients and seeds will use just about any port they can mutally connect on. Any one port won't give you a speed increase just because it's a different port. However, if your firewall blocks one tpyical BT port range, and you switch to another one, you'll get faster speeds as you are now uploading more packets. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> My apologies Blue.

    I just figured that sometimes, even without a firewall, changing to the right port would have a dramatic increase on my download speeds. I remember I used to download from a place that had this python tracker that the people who ran it said that it required some specific port otherwise you would get a NAT error. I was thinking that what port you should be on is determined by the tracker you are connected to.

    Right now for instance I am downloading through BT and the speeds are mind numbingly slow. I have a 3MB line that is sitting here doing 11kbps. I capped my upload at 15kbps (though when I start seeding I take off the cap). What I don't get is;

    A.) Why can I see how many Seeds & Peers I am connected to but not how many there are total.
    b.) Why do I get a Yellow Light in Azureus for every torrent I use for the last month or so.
    C.) What can I change to fix this?
  • CreepieCreepie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13734Members
    The latest versions of ZoneAlarm (v5 I believe) don't like the way torrents work (at least, they didn't on my machine) Even the officials on the ZoneAlarm forums recognise this, and advise to switch back to earlier versions of ZoneAlarm when torrenting. I switched from ZoneAlarm to Sygate. Once I'd opened the ports for it in Sygate, it is fine.

    My client is BitTornado.

    There is a lot of information in <a href='http://forums.degreez.net/' target='_blank'>this forum</a> about slow downloading and yellow status indicators.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    Argh!

    Damnit, people, <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif' /><!--endemo--> are called <i>turrets</i>, not <i>t<b>o</b>rre<b>n</b>ts</i>! That <b>n</b> that keeps creeping in there is bad enough, but an <b>o</b> as well?!

    ....oh, wait. Never mind...
  • CartiCarti Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18099Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Oct 14 2004, 12:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Oct 14 2004, 12:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To be honest, I hate Azureus. I use <a href='http://www.bittornado.com' target='_blank'>BitTornado</a>. It's exactly what I need. That, and Java is a vile demon.
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Amen. It's basic but it gets the job done.

    Just pick good torrents with a decent amount of peers on. I do my torrents at 3am when the Americans do it, so i get more bandwith ^_^.

    <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif' /><!--endemo--> OMG TURRENTZ!! <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    best fire wall? Hardware, go by a router <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Port to use for BT?
    50000 (you can configgure your client and your firewall to work with that port)

    up vs down speed?
    yah, you don't have to share MUCH, but if you share nothing you get nothing.
    Also, 5k up = 15k up general (most clients list your up speed per client, not your total upspeed for all the clients connected to you)

    if you are getting yellws on the froggy proggy (AZ) then you are probably firewalled. IF you are behind a hardware firewall you probably changed your IP and it is fowarding ports to the wrong computer.

    otherwise, just reconfigure your port (if it is still asking for a port range, then upgrade your copy of AZ as the new ones only need one port)
  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    It doesnt sound like you are but if you connect via a router then you will have to forward your ports. Also if you are using azurus make sure you have maximum connections per torrent set to 0 (unlimited connections) I had mine set to 10 once and got download rates of like 5k <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    those settings are inthere for a reason Rue <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    if you actualy play with em you will find that you can probably get better rates by setting them to something other then 0.


    well that is assuming you want to do ANYTHING else when you download.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Thanks Thansal! I set ABC to use 50000 or therabouts and my Linksys to forward those, and now I'm pulling about twice my normal speed. This is pretty nice. I'd recommend ABC or BitTornado, myself.
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