Anyone Know If V6 Will Be Better!?!?
snake_doc
Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15610Members
Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15610Members
<div class="IPBDescription">I hope so</div> I run 2 servers (Snake-den.org 1 and 2) I just reciently updated server #2 to version 5 and WOW......
Bunch of nasty players out there which are quiet unhappy with 5.....
My curriosity is if anyone has heard a release date for 6 as of yet?
because now server 1 (beta 4 is always a full house) and the beta 5 server since upgrading has been quiet a bit thin....along with a LOT of emails wanting the second server downgraded again because of issues with 5.
Just wandering if anyone else has had anything like this hapening and if they know of a release date on 6......
No this isent a rant just a pure curriosity about other server owner/admins having the same complaints or if its just my buncha spoiled players :-)
Bunch of nasty players out there which are quiet unhappy with 5.....
My curriosity is if anyone has heard a release date for 6 as of yet?
because now server 1 (beta 4 is always a full house) and the beta 5 server since upgrading has been quiet a bit thin....along with a LOT of emails wanting the second server downgraded again because of issues with 5.
Just wandering if anyone else has had anything like this hapening and if they know of a release date on 6......
No this isent a rant just a pure curriosity about other server owner/admins having the same complaints or if its just my buncha spoiled players :-)
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Maybe if you state what exactly people are complaining about then someone here could help.
Maybe if you state what exactly people are complaining about then someone here could help. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just out of curiosity, which plugins crashed your server with B5?
My guess is they've since been modified for B5, especially if you run AMX.
Maybe if you state what exactly people are complaining about then someone here could help. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just out of curiosity, which plugins crashed your server with B5?
My guess is they've since been modified for B5, especially if you run AMX. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sandman has a better idea of that .. I am nto sure which has been .. I just know that is why we are still running beta4a ... but I didn't start this topic so this isn't about my clan's server lol
but yes, we are running AMX and we use rcbots (used to use wb bots but they seem to not like AMX for steam .. I don't know exactly tho .. lol)
Also I may check out your server since I installed beta 5 on my pc last week. It looks like I ping only 80ms there so that is good <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
hmm.. have to DL some new maps tho .. I don't have ns_supersiege001b3 heheh
I don't run my own server so I can't say what the problems are with beta 5 .. as for playing on beta 5 servers I have no problems. I can only tell you what it says in HLSW what servers have. Like it lists yours as running AMX v0.16, MetaMod v1.17.2p10, and HLGuard v1.60. My clan's server runs LM v0.7b, AMX v0.9.9, MM v1.17.1, and Cheating Death v4.21.0. .. I forget how to find out in console ..
Also I may check out your server since I installed beta 5 on my pc last week. It looks like I ping only 80ms there so that is good <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
hmm.. have to DL some new maps tho .. I don't have ns_supersiege001b3 heheh
I don't run my own server so I can't say what the problems are with beta 5 .. as for playing on beta 5 servers I have no problems. I can only tell you what it says in HLSW what servers have. Like it lists yours as running AMX v0.16, MetaMod v1.17.2p10, and HLGuard v1.60. My clan's server runs LM v0.7b, AMX v0.9.9, MM v1.17.1, and Cheating Death v4.21.0. .. I forget how to find out in console .. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hate to see you guys miss out on B5 because of AMX issues.
First off update to AMX Mod X v0.20-R7 or at the very least amxx v0.16 (a final release). If you'll go to <a href='http://www.modns.org/forums/' target='_blank'>modNS.org Forums</a> you'll find a good selection of plugins updated for B5. I can't understand why there are even any B4a servers still running, imho.
amx 0.9.9 is buggy, there is no point in having cheating death on a server. its easily defeated and when i ran it on my server it deterred people from actually joining the server. also what made me mad is that every couple of days united admins released a new version of cheating death which made it irritating having to have the clients and the server have to update it. its a bunch of nonsense especially if you have vac and hlguard, its all server side so the clients can just join and play.
also if your clan server ever wants to run beta 5 you have to get the version of metamod i have or it will crash from not being able to handle the new ammo entity correctly.
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VAC doesn't work with NS yet, being it's a 3rd party game. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
There are no more issues using Amx mod x .20+. It's been stable and runs well and I don't see crashes at all. There are a few plugins that aren't updated for amxmodx but I've been able to find metamod versions of those that work better than the amx versions ever did, so that's a non issue. Use amx modx for the admin stuff and use metamod plugins for the additional features, if/when there isn't an updated module for .20+ already.
C-D does seem to get bypassed with minimal effort and the time it takes a client to get it installed causes them to look elsewhere if they don't have it. Suppose we'll have to wait for VAC.
I found the plugins that dident work and disabled them using a lan server before upgrading my co-located server up to beta 5.
there are some plugins still working well with it such as lerk lift and some fun plugins.
But my problem is that no one likes combat at all under version 5.
Since this is a mixed server (combat and ns) they really rant about combat under the newer version (I only played it once and found it to my dis-like)
Also they are complaining about marines being way to over powerd and calling the new shotgun a n00b canon or n00b stick (take your pick I have heard the new shotty called everything but something good)
In short everyone downloaded beta 5 to keep playing there but dont wish to because of all the steps that beta 5 seemed to go backwards in.
As stated before Every single complaint I have recieved has been where the marines are to over powerd now with the new shotgun and the complaints about the new way that aliens spawn (having to gestate again)
Thats the main complaints Im recieving.
I finaly got tired of it and started using a generic message telling them that I dident change the game I just run a server for it ..........
I really hope they fix combat back to the way it was in b4 (but maybe balance it just a bit more ) I do like the new spawn system (but feel that it should work a bit quicker...)
I really have no opinion on 5 because Im a combat only player and after I heard all the complaints I dident upgrade my combat only server just the mixed server now its always empty :-(
and all those people that use amxx .20 where do you get it? i searched the amxmodx site and can only find .16, not that i want to switch or anything (dont fix what isnt broken) im just curious.
<a href='http://sourceforge.net/projects/amxmodx/' target='_blank'>http://sourceforge.net/projects/amxmodx/</a>
Look for the amx modx base package, in small lil letters it says 20rc6.
Then head here:
<a href='http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=100470&package_id=129632&release_id=269218' target='_blank'>http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...lease_id=269218</a>
For more info read about half way down on the amxmodx front page:
<a href='http://www.amxmodx.org/' target='_blank'>http://www.amxmodx.org/</a>
Read down to the "AMX Mod X 0.20-RC6 Released" entry and read the amx 20 upgrade guide:
<a href='http://www.amxmodx.org/updateguide.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.amxmodx.org/updateguide.htm</a>
I need to do something bro cause its getin thin on there and Paying for a co-located server isent that cheap!
I think We may just downgrade to b4a again untill v6 drops out on the market and try 6 out....I truly hope 6 balances better than 5 did. I truly would hate to see the Mod die because of things like this because Under 4 I have had more combat fun than in any other distro version to date of combat.
But under 5 there seems to be some serious balance issues when I can go marine and get a shotty lvl 2 and a jp and rape an entire Alien team and take down there hive ........
Well GOOD luck On geting the bugs and kinks worked out there NS team
Hope to see v6 hit the shelves soon!
Also Giga Come by and visit us again some time dude!
There is no release date as of yet.
It does indeed look like b6 will be an improvement upon b5
Bear in mind that I am naught but a lowly PT; if you're looking for the definitive word on the matter wait for Zunni or one of the other Devs.
Its Nice of you to post a reply and also found a post of zum in the other forums as well.
But with all the heavy load of "I dont like this" and "Your server sucks since you done that"
I think ill drop back to beta 4 and await the release of 6 and hope for the best!
Best wishes all!
Also I may check out your server since I installed beta 5 on my pc last week. It looks like I ping only 80ms there so that is good <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
hmm.. have to DL some new maps tho .. I don't have ns_supersiege001b3 heheh
I don't run my own server so I can't say what the problems are with beta 5 .. as for playing on beta 5 servers I have no problems. I can only tell you what it says in HLSW what servers have. Like it lists yours as running AMX v0.16, MetaMod v1.17.2p10, and HLGuard v1.60. My clan's server runs LM v0.7b, AMX v0.9.9, MM v1.17.1, and Cheating Death v4.21.0. .. I forget how to find out in console .. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hate to see you guys miss out on B5 because of AMX issues.
First off update to AMX Mod X v0.20-R7 or at the very least amxx v0.16 (a final release). If you'll go to <a href='http://www.modns.org/forums/' target='_blank'>modNS.org Forums</a> you'll find a good selection of plugins updated for B5. I can't understand why there are even any B4a servers still running, imho. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I forget the clan leader's reason for not running AMX-X .. He is sticking with AMX (not AMX-X)
amx 0.9.9 is buggy, there is no point in having cheating death on a server. its easily defeated and when i ran it on my server it deterred people from actually joining the server. also what made me mad is that every couple of days united admins released a new version of cheating death which made it irritating having to have the clients and the server have to update it. its a bunch of nonsense especially if you have vac and hlguard, its all server side so the clients can just join and play.
also if your clan server ever wants to run beta 5 you have to get the version of metamod i have or it will crash from not being able to handle the new ammo entity correctly. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ya it seems cheating-Death doesn't stop everything (I am not even sure what it stops if anything .. guess I should read up on it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->) but with the server running cheating-death there was someone who hopped in and he was speed hacking (I recorded a demo and it sure looks like he was) so C-D didn't stop that ... He wasn't doing it a lot tho .. so I think he was just doing it to try it out. oh well .. still .. eventually when the next version of NS comes out (hell my clan is still 4a and you guys are already talking about beta6! lol) hopefully there will be some reliable sort of implimentation of anti-cheat.
as for my clan's server .. our clan's leader posted this in another forum:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ok, my NS 3.0 beta5 crashes every 20 minutes like clockwork while running ONLY metamod 1.17.2.1. No other plugins need to be running. NS seems stable stand alone. I have tried reinstalling both NS and MM with no help in site. Suggestions?
PS: My system is MORE then adequate to handle this task.
Windows XP ( SP2 )
Intel P4 3.2ghz HT presscot
1gb PC3200 DDR
120gb HDD
ATI Radeon 9800 pro<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->.
If any of you think you can figure out why my clan dan't sucessfully update to beta 5 then check out <a href='http://66.130.159.87:2722/viewtopic.php?p=649#649' target='_blank'>this forum.</a>
ill drop by again sometimes, i just dont play ns much anymore because of random bugs and stuff. more into the mapping portion of ns right now.
well, that vnc thing might be a bad idea if you use linux, have not messed with hlds linux much and when i did it would bug out and crash :/
Just give me your credit card details, address and social security information..... <!--emo&::tsa::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tsa.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tsa.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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um... ok? and that means?
all my NS b5 server now run AMXX RC6 along side MetaMod v1.17.2p10
this is on a Linux Fedora core 2 OS with all latest updates
Dual Xeon 2400DP
1024mb DDR 333 (Kingston)
Segate 80gb 8mb cache HD
problems 0 except with "outdated plugins"
you can't expect the devlopment of this game to be hindered by considering support for 3rd party mod's
82.138.247.33:27015 < customers server
82.138.247.33:27030 < public server
both running the above mentioned amxx RC6 MetaMod v1.17.2p10
if you find a problems please let me know, we had one with the mapcycle plugin and it was an **** to figure out <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
plus I had to reinstall everything due to virii and trojans and a work .. so I reinstalled beta 4a and also just yesterday I installed beta 5 again and now when I join I have no clue what is wrong but I just hang there while the server is parsing (is that what it says? I think so .. )
AND ever since I installed Beta 5 I am having toruble now with beta 4a (which makes no sense since beta 4a goes into the /nsp folder and beta 5 goes into the /ns folder) but now when I join a game in beta 4a it is like I am lagging when my ping and fps are perfect ... it is like my computer is not getting the info fast enough .. it is like my computer suddenly got brain damage and is pc-mentally retarded .. .. it might be something else tho but it is getting annoying and I just wish all these problems would just stop hasselling me <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
update ... I found out my problems were server side on the server I was connecting to :\ <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
when i am hosting a CO map - damn server is full - you can't buy a slot
soon as a NS map comes out to play - your lucky if its 6v6
Call me old - but i like the classic play of NS and i think the CO ruined things a bit.
i like the CO too - but hate it now because of the above statments