Half-life 2 Or Source

Ice9Ice9 Join Date: 2004-06-09 Member: 29208Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Engine...</div> Okay, this has been bugging the crap out of me lately. Simple question, just post a simple answer (maybe with a bit of reasoning).

<b>Do you call the CS:Source engine the HL2 engine or the Source engine?</b>

I hate it when people make it sound like it's the Source engine. CS:S IS A MOD FOR THE HL2 ENGINE.

My vote is the HL2 engine.

Flame away!

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  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    hl2 engine = source engine

    end of discussion
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    edited October 2004
    I always thought that HL2 ran on the Source engine. The engine doesn't have to have the same name as the game that first uses it. So the "HL2 engine" is Source.
  • ThE_HeRoThE_HeRo Join Date: 2003-01-25 Member: 12723Members
    It's Source engine. Half-Life 2 is powered by the Source engine, just like Counter-Strike:<b>Source</b>.

    Sorry to burst your bubble.
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    This thread almost certainly won't be locked.
  • Ice9Ice9 Join Date: 2004-06-09 Member: 29208Members
    Ok, here's my dumb **** proof.

    Why is the main executable for CS:S called <b>HL2.exe</b>?
  • BizZy_9mm_MessiahBizZy_9mm_Messiah Old School Member Join Date: 2003-07-25 Member: 18411Members, Constellation
    The genious strikes again! Good job Ice9.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    edited October 2004
    Just another post confirming the facts; Source is the engine that powers the game. HL2 runs on Source, CS runs on Source, Hotdogs run on sauce.. harr harr harr

    Edit: Yeah, Ice, that's not exactly right. Heh. Take for example, your computer. Looking at mine, i can say it's an AMD ATHLON XP 2400+, 512mb ram, radeon 9800 pro, etc etc. That isn't the same as saying "Oh, my computer is windows XP" or "But my linux is the same as my computer hardware".

    Okay, well that was a crappy example. Basically, the engine of a game, and the game [models, plot, maps, etc] are different. It's like a pizza.. A pizzaputer. Computer.
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    edited October 2004
    Wow, it took ages for the source/sauce thing to come up.

    Edit:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why is the main executable for CS:S called <b>HL2.exe</b>?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    What does that have to do with the engine? The hl2.exe is just to start up Half Life 2.
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ice9+Oct 14 2004, 02:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ice9 @ Oct 14 2004, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok, here's my dumb **** proof.

    Why is the main executable for CS:S called <b>HL2.exe</b>? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    because its easier to type hl2.exe then source.exe?
  • Ice9Ice9 Join Date: 2004-06-09 Member: 29208Members
    I just wanna know what j00 guys tinks!
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  • ThE_HeRoThE_HeRo Join Date: 2003-01-25 Member: 12723Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ice9+Oct 14 2004, 04:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ice9 @ Oct 14 2004, 04:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok, here's my dumb **** proof.

    Why is the main executable for CS:S called <b>HL2.exe</b>? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because, like you said, CS:S is a MOD for hl2. So it has to run hl2.exe to get the engine started. In the beta, it was css.exe (I think), but a DOS window came up and started the Source engine.
  • POOP_AkiraPOOP_Akira Join Date: 2003-11-23 Member: 23468Members
    I just want to make it in before the lock.
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    akira change your sig so its like mine coldnite's and jumpingjoda's


    and ice you should know we dont think we are robots
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    I mean, I wasn't even trying to be sarcastic and look what happens.

    Am I thread cancer?

    Also, the Nature Boys would walk all over your idiot chiefs.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    edited October 2004
    well, farcry's engine is called CryENGINE. The exec is still called FarCry.exe


    ditto with Serious Sam (Serious) and most games.


    (it's late I don't make sense)
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    Note that you can rename the .exe to anything you want. I just renamed it to cheese.exe. That does not mean that HL2 runs on cheese.
  • HibameHibame Join Date: 2003-11-16 Member: 22974Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Snidely+Oct 14 2004, 04:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snidely @ Oct 14 2004, 04:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Note that you can rename the .exe to anything you want. I just renamed it to cheese.exe. That does not mean that HL2 runs on cheese. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    maybe yours doesnt!
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Snidely+Oct 14 2004, 02:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snidely @ Oct 14 2004, 02:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Note that you can rename the .exe to anything you want. I just renamed it to cheese.exe. That does not mean that HL2 runs on cheese. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    maybe it does can you prove it doesnt?
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    edited October 2004
    What have I started? <b>What have I started?</b>
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    source... it's source

    source --> HL2 --> CS:S

    just like most mods, it uses the exe of the game that it modified.


    you have done nothing, report to the nearest memory wipe station
  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Once again, it's source engine.

    My 2 pance.
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    It's like... the same thing, a game is a game is a game is a game, not an engine. Look at tribes:v it's not on the Tribes Vergance engine, it's on the unreal engine. Wolfenstine is on the quake3 engine, not the wolfenstine engine.

    Half life 2 = a game Source = the engine said game runs on.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Think of it this way:

    CS and HL2SP are "skins" for HL2.exe. HL2.exe uses the Source engine, which Valve saw fit to name.

    HL's engine never really had a name, except maybe "Quake 1 + bits of Quake 2 and other fun code," so discussing the original CS you said it ran on the HL engine. But to say CS:S runs on the HL2 engine is the same as saying it runs on the Source engine.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Oct 14 2004, 04:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Oct 14 2004, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Snidely+Oct 14 2004, 02:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snidely @ Oct 14 2004, 02:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Note that you can rename the .exe to anything you want. I just renamed it to cheese.exe. That does not mean that HL2 runs on cheese. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    maybe it does can you prove it doesnt? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Omg IT RUNS ON CHEESE! WHAT HAS THIS WORLD COME TO.

    Ice... dude. It's the Source engine. End o' Discussion. It's the source engine because they decided to give the game's engine its own specific name and then license it out to other games, like CS:S and Vampire: The masquerade. If they hadn't given the engine a name, then we would have probably ended up just referring to it as the HL2 engine. But since an official stance was taken, we go by that.

    Oh yeah, Akira, support BSHAX. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    It's source engine, though it isn't really incorrect to call it the Half-Life 2 engine. If you call it the Counter-Strike:Source engine, however, I will spill your blood. Not many things are more enraging than showing off your own mod for the first time to the public only to have some idiot say "yeah, it's running on the Counter-Strike engine, just like that old Half-Life mod."

    Look at LithTech, which powers NOLF and AVP2 and several other games. Its the LithTech engine. The engine name doesn't need match the game name.


    In fact, pretty much the only ones who still name their engines after the specific game its on is id and Epic. Everybody else has a fancy pants name for their engine.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    DOOManiac.com -- built using the power of the CHEESE ENGINE!
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Flint Paper+Oct 14 2004, 10:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flint Paper @ Oct 14 2004, 10:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This thread almost certainly won't be locked. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sad but true. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-coil+Oct 14 2004, 05:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Oct 14 2004, 05:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> DOOManiac.com -- built using the power of the CHEESE ENGINE! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Can't disagree with that, after seeing that trainwreck he calls a site. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RatonetwothreetwooneRatonetwothreetwoone Join Date: 2004-03-23 Member: 27504Members
    i hate talking to people and saying "so how bout that cs source?" and they just gaze at me and start talking about olde counterstrike... WHATS THAT ALL ABOUT?!? WHERE HAVE THESE PEOPLE BEEN?!?

    btw its source engine.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Oct 14 2004, 04:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Oct 14 2004, 04:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In fact, pretty much the only ones who still name their engines after the specific game its on is id and Epic. Everybody else has a fancy pants name for their engine. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Crytek/CriEngine/FarCry?
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