<!--QuoteBegin-Sykotic+Oct 24 2004, 05:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sykotic @ Oct 24 2004, 05:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh it looks like metal. Just not conventional weapon material. I'd say this is something for the imagination, considering the banshee does look like it belongs somewhere in our quite-very-distant future. The brushed effect reeks of class on sheenas concepts, and it is a concept afterall, not an end of the line skin...nothing to get apoplexy over dude <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> You have far too much bottled up negativity drealit. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yeah you are right.. ITS JUST A QUICKLY DONE CONCEPT
drealiT, dont you think i have better stuff to do than spending a hour just to doodle a concept?
and the cartoony factor is ok, because otherwise it wont fit to the drawing im doing, where i use that gun as weapon for that character of this charastudy
hey drealiT knows what he's talking about. I believe he's a dlcss regular and an absolutely brilliant skinner. I'd be very interested in seeing a tutorial written by you on getting that metal effect. I'm still having trouble getting a pitted metal effect like brigs <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-TheUdderOne+Oct 24 2004, 06:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheUdderOne @ Oct 24 2004, 06:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hey drealiT knows what he's talking about. I believe he's a dlcss regular and an absolutely brilliant skinner. I'd be very interested in seeing a tutorial written by you on getting that metal effect. I'm still having trouble getting a pitted metal effect like brigs <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> maybe he know what hes talking about... but its really not of interrest for quick doodles.. its like watching a stickman carton and shouting "OMG" the body proportions are complete incorrect !
i would love to see a tutorial too ... and why havent he pimped my concept yet with his l33tness.. im curious what it would look like if someone spend some hours of his life on it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
the brushed metal technique was killed nearly 3 years ago in the zp forums(or whatever we called it i dont remember, before dlcss) for the excessive amount of **** it provides us with. it's a lazy way to get something that only could be considered to mimic the material of a coke can.... but even then it's a really far fetched resemblance. IMO it should never be used because it's so much more effective to use your own metal texture which will look nearly 50x better.
see thats what i dont understand around here... people are doing "quick doodles" rather than attempting to do something the best they can. then to top it off... they reject any form of critique to make it better and accept some random person's inexperienced appraisal in it's place. that's not how you proceed to get better.
maybe i'll make a few tutorials... or at least provide some... maybe i wont. it depends on how motivated i am to make a "QUICK DOODLE" of one or find one good one already in existence for this community.
you really dont understand that i cant effort more time , do you? im using noise motion blurr to create quickly structured surfaces, and i dont need any crappy cs-tut to achieve that, its common sense how to combine ps filters, and that combination ive used was enough, fast to do,and just good for it. ive done the original drawing in a brainstorming with poseidon dai nippon giken within 5 minutes , based on one of mr.shirows illustrations combined with his moon net23 line. ive scanned it,and used "freehand" to do the outlines..and in my lunchbreak ive quickly colored it..before the meeting continued. this concept work is part of my job, and i have to "concepts" without investing several hours into them, because i have to finish them as long the meeting lasts. the final designconcept is getting high poly modelled, to feed the data into the rapid prototyping machine, to create a rough master shape ..at this point, ive normaly deleted the original draft.. it got rejected anyway. that was almost 2 years ago.i found that doodle in my file archive again several months ago and posted it without knowledge of my department chief on this board. i thought it looked ...uhm..ok to be modelled... i really dont care about that concept, if, and who will do it , just be glad that ive deceided to abandon it for the ns comunity.. i really dont care about the critics either..because there is no way i would change that piece of pewp , i simply dont have the time for that kind of stuff. concepts like this dont really have any worthiness for me..rejected concepts are just a waste of paper and material
we appreciate the time you've spent doing stuff for these forums sheena <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
jeez, there's even a shrine for you. not many people get themselves a personal shrine <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
we appreciate the time you've spent doing stuff for these forums sheena <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
jeez, there's even a shrine for you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i feel huggled..and like an ****..
There isn't much of an argument here, it's a concept picture for heavens sake. I suggest if you have a problem dreal, take it to PM- you stated your opinions once, they weren't taken warmly, there wasn't really any need to continue :/ Some people need to find a release outside of these ns forums i think, too much built up anxiety.
hehe btw Fluffy, i love that pic!! they look like police dogs though, i reckon they were being tested to make sure they don't react or attack something when it's an inappropriate time or situation. *laughs* ohhh the analogy...
no what bothered me was that people wanted to know the technique for that so called metal... i'd be damned if i didn't clearly express mine and most more serious people's opinion on the matter.
edit: i clearly identified what my problem was... the metal. i said nothing about the concept, so shh.
<!--QuoteBegin-shinayanai+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (shinayanai)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yeah you are right.. ITS JUST A QUICKLY DONE CONCEPT
drealiT, dont you think i have better stuff to do than spending a hour just to doodle a concept?
and the cartoony factor is ok, because otherwise it wont fit to the drawing im doing, where i use that gun as weapon for that character of this charastudy <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-drealiT+Oct 24 2004, 02:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (drealiT @ Oct 24 2004, 02:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> see thats what i dont understand around here... people are doing "quick doodles" rather than attempting to do something the best they can. then to top it off... they reject any form of critique to make it better and accept some random person's inexperienced appraisal in it's place. that's not how you proceed to get better.
<!--QuoteBegin-drealiT+Oct 24 2004, 02:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (drealiT @ Oct 24 2004, 02:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> no what bothered me was that people wanted to know the technique for that so called metal... i'd be damned if i didn't clearly express mine and most more serious people's opinion on the matter.
edit: i clearly identified what my problem was... the metal. i said nothing about the concept, so shh.
i dont really think that you know what you bothers.. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Same crap different day really...oh well. How's this coming along udder (sorry for tainting your thread if the things i said were a little inappropriate as far as remaining on topic goes). I wouldn't mind trying my hand at skinning this (i've been looking for a banshee to skin for a while) if you're willing to give me a shot at it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> (i wouldn't count me in as the only skinner though, if it's not up to scratch i don't want to release to anyone <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
I have a 'finished' one but it has lots of errors/bad mapping <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-DR_FUZZY+Nov 4 2004, 08:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DR_FUZZY @ Nov 4 2004, 08:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have a 'finished' one but it has lots of errors/bad mapping <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> that might be my model <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Zeris+Nov 4 2004, 10:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zeris @ Nov 4 2004, 10:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I am vaguely reminded of the Seburo C-25a sub-machine gun from Ghost in the Shell.
Needless to say, being the GitS/cyberpunk freak I am, I am looking forward to this. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Ditto.
Theres not enough Cyberpunk crap in the world. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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You have far too much bottled up negativity drealit. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yeah you are right.. ITS JUST A QUICKLY DONE CONCEPT
drealiT, dont you think i have better stuff to do than spending a hour just to doodle a concept?
and the cartoony factor is ok, because otherwise it wont fit to the drawing im doing, where i use that gun as weapon for that character of this charastudy
maybe he know what hes talking about... but its really not of interrest for quick doodles..
its like watching a stickman carton and shouting "OMG" the body proportions are complete incorrect !
i would love to see a tutorial too ... and why havent he pimped my concept yet with his l33tness.. im curious what it would look like if someone spend some hours of his life on it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
see thats what i dont understand around here... people are doing "quick doodles" rather than attempting to do something the best they can. then to top it off... they reject any form of critique to make it better and accept some random person's inexperienced appraisal in it's place. that's not how you proceed to get better.
maybe i'll make a few tutorials... or at least provide some... maybe i wont. it depends on how motivated i am to make a "QUICK DOODLE" of one or find one good one already in existence for this community.
im using noise motion blurr to create quickly structured surfaces, and i dont need any crappy cs-tut to achieve that, its common sense how to combine ps filters, and that combination ive used was enough, fast to do,and just good for it.
ive done the original drawing in a brainstorming with poseidon dai nippon giken within 5 minutes , based on one of mr.shirows illustrations combined with his moon net23 line.
ive scanned it,and used "freehand" to do the outlines..and in my lunchbreak ive quickly colored it..before the meeting continued. this concept work is part of my job, and i have to "concepts" without investing several hours into them, because i have to finish them as long the meeting lasts. the final designconcept is getting high poly modelled, to feed the data into the rapid prototyping machine, to create a rough master shape ..at this point, ive normaly deleted the original draft.. it got rejected anyway. that was almost 2 years ago.i found that doodle in my file archive again several months ago and posted it without knowledge of my department chief on this board. i thought it looked ...uhm..ok to be modelled...
i really dont care about that concept, if, and who will do it , just be glad that ive deceided to abandon it for the ns comunity.. i really dont care about the critics either..because there is no way i would change that piece of pewp , i simply dont have the time for that kind of stuff. concepts like this dont really have any worthiness for me..rejected concepts are just a waste of paper and material
feel free to improve it
we appreciate the time you've spent doing stuff for these forums sheena <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
jeez, there's even a shrine for you.
not many people get themselves a personal shrine <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
we appreciate the time you've spent doing stuff for these forums sheena <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
jeez, there's even a shrine for you.
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i feel huggled..and like an ****..
but its just like it is
and im really not worth to get a shrine
I suggest if you have a problem dreal, take it to PM- you stated your opinions once, they weren't taken warmly, there wasn't really any need to continue :/
Some people need to find a release outside of these ns forums i think, too much built up anxiety.
hehe btw Fluffy, i love that pic!! they look like police dogs though, i reckon they were being tested to make sure they don't react or attack something when it's an inappropriate time or situation. *laughs* ohhh the analogy...
edit: i clearly identified what my problem was... the metal. i said nothing about the concept, so shh.
drealiT, dont you think i have better stuff to do than spending a hour just to doodle a concept?
and the cartoony factor is ok, because otherwise it wont fit to the drawing im doing, where i use that gun as weapon for that character of this charastudy
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<!--QuoteBegin-drealiT+Oct 24 2004, 02:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (drealiT @ Oct 24 2004, 02:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> see thats what i dont understand around here... people are doing "quick doodles" rather than attempting to do something the best they can. then to top it off... they reject any form of critique to make it better and accept some random person's inexperienced appraisal in it's place. that's not how you proceed to get better.
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<!--QuoteBegin-drealiT+Oct 24 2004, 02:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (drealiT @ Oct 24 2004, 02:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> no what bothered me was that people wanted to know the technique for that so called metal... i'd be damned if i didn't clearly express mine and most more serious people's opinion on the matter.
edit: i clearly identified what my problem was... the metal. i said nothing about the concept, so shh.
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i dont really think that you know what you bothers..
<!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i'm done in this thread since i got my point across.
Same crap different day really...oh well.
How's this coming along udder (sorry for tainting your thread if the things i said were a little inappropriate as far as remaining on topic goes).
I wouldn't mind trying my hand at skinning this (i've been looking for a banshee to skin for a while) if you're willing to give me a shot at it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> (i wouldn't count me in as the only skinner though, if it's not up to scratch i don't want to release to anyone <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
Otherwise I will be making it myself ^^
Anyways, if I <u>do</u> get to model this (PLZ PLZ PLZ) do you guys want the scoped, or not scoped version?
Scoped:
that might be my model <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
that might be my model <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sure is! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Im guessing township died, correct?
<img src='http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Fuji/3598/images/shirow/seburo.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Needless to say, being the GitS/cyberpunk freak I am, I am looking forward to this.
<img src='http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Fuji/3598/images/shirow/seburo.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Needless to say, being the GitS/cyberpunk freak I am, I am looking forward to this. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ditto.
Theres not enough Cyberpunk crap in the world. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->