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Thaldarin · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (A|IEN @ Oct 24 2004, 02:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Its a big shame that your hive wont turn out the way you imagined it!

But tihnk baout it, you have probably one of the most amazing maps made for NS thus far, and thats defiantley an achievment to be proud of!!!!  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Obviously English isn't your first language, but the guy has a point. This is one of the best Classic maps created to date.

Crispy · October 2004

Keep a copy of the first Hive and I'm sure on a very, very rainy day you'll figure it out and can put it into version two.

I feel your pain...

Rendy_CZech · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt.Gravity @ Oct 24 2004, 02:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ... there arent any resources left, now I know why hl2 HAS TO come. so this is definetely my last hl1 map. never had been this annoyed by hl mapping than today <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Yeah, like this I feel always I load ns_hulk.rmf in hammer. HL1 engine really isn't capable realized our imaginations. The best moment was, when I had about 40% of map done and then I had noticed, that I was on 75% of leaves and on 95% of clipnodes. And the Allockblock is another chapter (the worse).

I'm with you brother !!! <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' />

Gneralas · October 2004

The vent in the middle near ore smelter looks like fun <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /> The minimap is looking veeeery nice, can't wait for this map to spread its proverbial wings and fly <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

[EDIT] Spelling [/EDIT]

[EDIT] Spelling...again [/EDIT]

p.s. i never knew i was so bad at spelling <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Once_Only · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Oct 24 2004, 10:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Obviously English isn't your first language.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
just because I spelt 'think' and 'about' wrong <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />

Thaldarin · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (A|IEN @ Oct 25 2004, 08:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Oct 24 2004, 10:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Obviously English isn't your first language. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
just because I spelt 'think' and 'about' wrong <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Its a big shame that your hive wont turn out the way you imagined it!

But tihnk baout it, you have probably one of the most amazing maps made for NS thus far, and thats defiantley an achievment to be proud of!!!!

Wrong spellings = think, about, definately, achievement.

Once_Only · October 2004

This is a mapping forum, not a typing forum. You should stay on topic.

TOmekki · October 2004

smoe reasrceh shwoed taht olny the frist and last lteetr of a wrod need to be coecrrt in odrerr for it to mkae snsee <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

Jezpuh · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Oct 25 2004, 10:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (A|IEN @ Oct 25 2004, 08:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Oct 24 2004, 10:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Obviously English isn't your first language. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
just because I spelt 'think' and 'about' wrong <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Its a big shame that your hive wont turn out the way you imagined it!

But tihnk baout it, you have probably one of the most amazing maps made for NS thus far, and thats defiantley an achievment to be proud of!!!!

Wrong spellings = think, about, definately, achievement.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Lol, your face has an error. Just wanted to point it out.

Anyway, don't bash people because of their typo's :O

Thaldarin · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JezPuh @ Oct 25 2004, 03:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Oct 25 2004, 10:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (A|IEN @ Oct 25 2004, 08:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Oct 24 2004, 10:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Obviously English isn't your first language. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
just because I spelt 'think' and 'about' wrong <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Its a big shame that your hive wont turn out the way you imagined it!

But tihnk baout it, you have probably one of the most amazing maps made for NS thus far, and thats defiantley an achievment to be proud of!!!!

Wrong spellings = think, about, definately, achievement. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Lol, your face has an error. Just wanted to point it out.

Anyway, don't bash people because of their typo's :O  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Oh you're a funny man, I point out to someone he's making a typo to help him with his English and you make a sarchy comment about someones appearance. All I say in defence is, take it up with my girlfriend <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

Jezpuh · October 2004

asl?

Zazi · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Oct 25 2004, 11:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JezPuh @ Oct 25 2004, 03:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Oct 25 2004, 10:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (A|IEN @ Oct 25 2004, 08:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Oct 24 2004, 10:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Obviously English isn't your first language. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
just because I spelt 'think' and 'about' wrong <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Its a big shame that your hive wont turn out the way you imagined it!

But tihnk baout it, you have probably one of the most amazing maps made for NS thus far, and thats defiantley an achievment to be proud of!!!!

Wrong spellings = think, about, definately, achievement. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Lol, your face has an error. Just wanted to point it out.

Anyway, don't bash people because of their typo's :O </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Oh you're a funny man, I point out to someone he's making a typo to help him with his English and you make a sarchy comment about someones appearance. All I say in defence is, take it up with my girlfriend <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
1.) Your mother is not a "girfriend"
2.) Don't you mean your boyfriend?

Greedo · October 2004

<span style='color:red'>Enough. Back on topic. Now.</span>

Lt_Gravity · October 2004

believe me, I want to release the map BADLY! but since I have started reworking the last hive environment, I am not too shure if the release is possible this weekend.

but I see one good point: now I can change the weldable entrance to a weldable siegeposition.
let me explain why:
first I thought three entrances would be great but soon realized, that this might cause some problems. so I thought about the problem and the solution is simple.
from within the source entrance you wont be able to siege the hive. you first have to weld the security doors open to get nearer to the hive. this position also is NOT accesible with onos from the hive side, so you have to take a longer route if you have to attack. however, skulks, lerks and fades can easily attack through kind of "vent". its more like a roadblock in this area. even jetpackers should have theitr fun here ^^ might be interesting. will post some screens on how I change the areas when I am far enough.
sense of all this: MASSIVE reduction of clipnotes (new hydraulic ramp area simplyfied), get rit of the leaf errors (by replacing the problem are with a more "straith" one) and the beta-version of the source access (is a little bit rough atm).

I hurry, promissed but working people havent got much free time <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' />

-= Lt. Gravity =-

Crispy · October 2004

*sensed*

'Nuff 'speck

Thaldarin · October 2004

<span style='color:red'>***NUKED***

This thread is about ns_source, not pointless bickering.</span>

Pointless? Not really, unprovoked attack by a PT. Please PM me about this. Tnx.

DarkATi · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Greedo386 @ Oct 25 2004, 12:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <span style='color:red'>Enough. Back on topic. Now.</span>  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Incase you missed it the first time.

Now, back on-topic.

Mining Area G3 Access looks good but please set the water to have some kind of transparency, it looks out of place.

The Mess is beautiful, me likes.

Overall it has a Mineshaft + Core feel to it, which I like.

Oh and in Source Access those bionic arm looking things are teh sex.

~ DarkATi

Lt_Gravity · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkATi @ Oct 26 2004, 05:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Mining Area G3 Access looks good but please set the water to have some kind of transparency, it looks out of place.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
thats a tricky one.
of cause I know that "additived" water looks great, much better than water without transparency. but I had to decide: either the water looks good OR you wont be able to see whats under you feed <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />
I dont know if I should change this. after all the range of fire in this area is pretty high.

thats one point on my "put an eye on it"-list. thank you for this comment, ATI ^^

moultano · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt.Gravity @ Oct 27 2004, 01:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkATi @ Oct 26 2004, 05:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Mining Area G3 Access looks good but please set the water to have some kind of transparency, it looks out of place. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
thats a tricky one.
of cause I know that "additived" water looks great, much better than water without transparency. but I had to decide: either the water looks good OR you wont be able to see whats under you feed <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />
I dont know if I should change this. after all the range of fire in this area is pretty high.

thats one point on my "put an eye on it"-list. thank you for this comment, ATI ^^  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Just make your own water texture and make it darker.

Lt_Gravity · October 2004

map status:
- finished (beta)

to do (not too important just to keep in mind):
- bugfix (entities)
- texture alignment (some rocks locking weird)
- fixing location names
- adding environment sounds
- new ready room (although the present one is quite acceptable)
thats it.

good news:
I made a complete redesign of hive surroundings in about 1 day. I changed the idea of the siege position back to the third route idea while its very easy for aliens to strike back and very hard for marines to settle down. it even looks more detailed. and it looks more scary. and it makes more sense. and the r_speeds are quite ok.

bad news:
dont know, had this <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=84382&st=0&#entry1310199' target='_blank'>ERROR after compiling</a>. thats what keeps me from doinfg anything. I spend 4 hours in fixing this error. but I cant get rit of it. I have to say that Im very frustrated at the moment. mapping uses up all my energy. this "try and error"-compiling is too much for my head.

its just... its just plain stupid. I just dont know what to do. in all the years of mapping I NEVER had been this annoyed by my hobby...

Lt_Gravity · October 2004

exceeded max clipnotes. what else?

...

-> format c:

Grizzly · October 2004

save your source files on ANOTHER computer

Lt_Gravity · November 2004

why?

seriously, I have got NO energy left to do ANYTHING on this project. maybe I will wait a week or two, doing something different at the weekends not just mapping. maybe I will have a good idea how to get things working.

thats so annoying, spending months on mapping and now Im not able to compile it, although the map itself is finished.

MrBen · November 2004

Oh no you don't, i don't come out of my little hole and read through 18 pages only to find out that you can't be arsed anymore. I'm not normally one for posting on these forums anymore, you have to read through 10 poor threads to find 1 decent screenshot. But this map, the excitment it has generated, the level of innovation and uniqueness, it reminds me of when i first released screenshots of ns_forsaken. It's an incredible looking map, so fresh and different, i absolutely love it. I swear you've actually stolen ideas from my head and put them down on the grid, it's so inspiring to see something like this. Yes that's right, me, MrBen, the guy who now hates HL editing is inspired! If you need help fixing max clipnodes i'm your guy - spent the better part of 3 days just optmising the hell out of what i had done on ns_forsaken.

Lt_Gravity · November 2004

thx mr. ben.
thats the support that keeps one working.
I fixed the join-teams problem and compiled the map witthout the last hive. I realized that the actual clipnotes are only little abouve the limit so it could be fixed easily by reworking some areas I guess.

guys, your good old Lt. Gravity is back on track and highly motivated <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />
btw: two shots of the initially model and the placement in the map.

<img src='http://mitglied.lycos.de/centercross/ns_source/line_finished.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

<img src='http://mitglied.lycos.de/centercross/ns_source/clamp_finished.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

edit:
one more to go
<img src='http://mitglied.lycos.de/centercross/ns_source/cargobox_finished.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Naigel · November 2004

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /> looks very interesting...! Model goodness ^^

kabuum · November 2004

Wow, this map seems to make sence in NS. Very good. Scary and all.. There is actually life there, not just plain map.

carioca · November 2004

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /> good work

Grizzly · November 2004

i want sexy models to, whoever made those will have to make more of them and relese them to the public

lillbrorsan · November 2004

Finally someone using some mapmodels <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

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