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<div class="IPBDescription">Anyone else get this email?</div> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->July 19, 2004


      Dry/Ice: Global Warming Revealed

      by Drunvalo Melchizedek


      What you are about to read is going to change your world forever, this I can promise you. I actually apologize that I have to be the one who brings this unsettling news, but you must know if you wish to survive, for what is coming will either be DRY and heat or ICE and freezing.

      Global warming has been in the news for over 40 years, and by this time we have become complacent. Our scientists have come to the agreement that global warming will eventually cause major changes and problems in the world, but in their way of thinking it will be 50 to 100 years before we will actually have to deal with the effects.

      The general idea is that global warming will be slow and the world will find time to discover the solutions to the problems.

      New powerful evidence strongly suggests that this scenario is simply wrong, and we had better prepare for another more abrupt possibility.

      DISCOVERY MAGAZINE

      One of the first hints that something may be different than what we are being told (especially here in the US) was published in Discover magazine in September 2002 with the cover announcing “Global Warming Surprise, A New Ice Age”, “Oceanographers have discovered a huge river of fresh water in the Atlantic formed by melting polar ice. They warn it could soon bury the Gulf Stream, plunging North America and Europe into frigid winters.”

      That was almost two years ago, and no one listened. Life goes on oblivious to the incredible danger approaching.

      ENGLAND & SIR DAVID KING

      Then in January 2004 enter Sir David King. Sir King is the Prime Minister of England’s chief scientist. Sir King went to Mr. Blair and told him of the impending worldwide disaster and that they needed to tell the world of what was about to happen.

      Tony Blair told Sir David King to be quiet and not speak. But Sir King felt that this was simply too important for him to say nothing, so in January of this year he deliberately went around Mr. Blair and went straight to the American journal Science where he published his information and concern.

      Sir King said in this article, “In my view, climate change is the most severe problem we are facing today, more serious even than the threat of terrorism.”

      England placed a gag order on Sir David King, and now he is not even allowed to discuss this subject publicly without threat of detention.

      AMERICA & THE PENTAGON

      A month later in February 2004, the Pentagon became involved, which has stirred the world to action.

      The Pentagon has been studying Global Warming for many years because of its possible national security problems associated with the kind of changes that could present themselves to the world through Global Warming.

      A special study was conducted through one of the Pentagon’s departments, the Office of Net Assessment, which is directed by Andrew W. Marshall, 83, who has the responsibility of identifying long-term threats to the United States.

      Mr. Marshall went to a US based think-tank called Global Business Network to compile the possibilities of Global Warming on US national security. A study was completed in October of 2003 and released to the Pentagon, which was looking at this problem from the point of view of what is the worst that could happen. It was named “An Abrupt Climate Change Scenario and Its Implications for United States National Security.” The summary went far beyond what most Pentagon experts had expected.

      Realizing the incredible possibilities of this study, Mr. Marshall made a decision to publicly report this and other information to the American people. And probably because of President Bush’s stance on Global Warming, which is beyond negative, he also decided to go around the president, and he published his information and concern in Fortune magazine on February 9th 2004.

      In his article in Fortune, Mr. Marshall explains how the melting North and South poles and glaciers from around the world are composed of fresh water and within this fact is the basis of the impending global weather disaster.

      The Gulf Stream or scientifically referred to as North Atlantic thermohaline conveyor is a stream of warm water that comes from south of the equator and flows over the surface of the ocean toward the north where this warm water keeps Northern America and Northern and Western Europe from freezing. It also holds most of the world’s weather patterns in the way we are used to.

      Then as this Gulf Stream cools down, it drops to the bottom of the ocean and returns as a river in the ocean to the south where it warms up again and rises to the surface and then returns to the north one more time in a continuous convection current. It is a huge three dimensional figure eight.

      The motor that keep this warm water flowing is found in the north where the Gulf Stream drops to the bottom of the ocean. It is the salt density of the ocean that causes this river to drop and pulls the warm water up from the south.

      Now that the poles are melting and fresh water is flowing into the Atlantic Ocean and the salt density is decreasing, the Gulf Stream does not drop quiet as far, which results in a slowing down of this Stream. The Gulf Stream has been dramatically slowing down now for at least ten years.

    As the Gulf Stream slows down, the warmth is not brought to the North Atlantic region, and the weather patterns begin to change for they are dependent on this warmth to keep a balance.

      THE MELTING POLES

      The Bush Administration

      During the Bush administration when discussions have been held on the melting of the North & South Poles, this government and US corporate entities alike have stated that the world’s scientists are all wrong on their conclusions that say there is great danger, and have led the American public to believe there is no real problem at all.

      However, George W. Bush was the focus of attack by Sir David King when he wrote his article in Science, for the world’s greatest scientific minds, at least one thousand seven hundred of them with the Union of Concerned Scientists say that Mr. Bush is ill informed at the least.

      Since the US government is 25% of the CO2 pollution in the world that is creating Global Warming, a discussion of Mr. Bush’s Global Warming policies is paramount. Perhaps one of the best articles that summaries Mr. Bush’s position will be found in the ROLLING STONES magazine article of May 19, 2004 by Tim Dickinson. What follows in italics is a portion of this article.

        Given the imminent threat from global warming, even the Bush administration might be expected to launch a War on Heat. After all, as a candidate in 2000, George W. Bush vowed to "establish mandatory reduction targets" for carbon-dioxide emissions, saying he would make the issue a top priority.

        Once Bush became president, however, reducing carbon emissions was the first promise he broke -- and his record has been all downhill from there. Only two months after taking office, the administration withdrew from the Kyoto Protocol, the global treaty that the United States signed in 1997 to set strict limits on greenhouse emissions. Instead, Bush instituted a voluntary emissions plan that has been an abject failure: So far, only fourteen companies have pledged to curb their CO2 output.

        The president also folded the interagency group that monitors climate change into the Commerce Department -- led by Secretary Don Evans, a former oil and gas executive. And he called for additional climate research that would delay any meaningful regulation for at least another decade. "We do not know how much our climate could or will change in the future," Bush declared in a speech in the Rose Garden. Such statements spurred an open letter signed by twenty Nobel laureates, who blasted the administration for having "consistently sought to undermine" public understanding of man's role in global warming. (Bush's science adviser refused to be interviewed for this article.)

        Then the censorship began. In September 2002, the Environmental Protection Agency released an air-quality report that - for the first time since 1996 - included no mention of global warming. Seven months later, the White House made wholesale revisions to the climate-change chapter of the EPA's "Report on the Environment," playing down human influence, deleting references to the health impacts of global warming and inserting climate data funded in part by the American Petroleum Institute. The EPA withdrew the altered chapter, acknowledging in an internal memo that it "no longer accurately represents scientific consensus on climate change."

        Even some Republicans have been astounded at Bush's meddling in EPA affairs. "What seems constantly evident with George W. Bush is that EPA is expected to take its marching orders from the White House on regulatory matters," says Russell Train, who headed the agency under Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford. "During my time, I never had that happen. Never." Train, a recipient of a Presidential Medal of Freedom from the elder Bush, calls the administration's approach to global warming "totally wrong" and "irresponsible."

        Bush can rely on key Republicans in Congress to block any efforts to curb pollution and stave off disaster. Sen. James Inhofe, chairman of the Environment and Public Works Committee, dismisses global warming as a "hoax." In a speech last July, Inhofe compared the IPCC to the Soviets and extolled the virtues of what he called a "CO2-enhanced" world. "It is my fervent hope," he concluded, "that Congress will reject the prophets of doom who peddle propaganda masquerading as science in the name of saving the planet from catastrophic disaster."

      From another point of view in the same article we hear: “They (the Bush Administration) do not have a credible plan, either domestically or internationally, for addressing the problem (Global Warming), says Michael Oppenheimer, a climatologist at Princeton University. They (the Bush Administration) argue that they don’t want to address global warming, he says, ‘because the science is shaky’. And that approach is indefensible, because the science isn’t shaky.”

      The North Pole Melting

      Let’s look at the facts. Two summers ago the North Pole completely melted for the first time in history that we know of. Both private and military ships floated directly over the actual North Pole as it was completely water. This area has never been seen to be less then ten feet of solid ice.

      Greenpeace a few years ago announced that the North Pole’s winter to summer snow pack had receded by around three hundred miles, but no one listened.

      And today, as I am writing this article, we are witnessing the Alaska fire that has consumed over one million acres of forest. This fire is burning in an area that is always wet with rain or snow until now. And this fire, as you will understand in this article is directly related to the melting of the poles and the Gulf Stream.

      But finally the Pentagon, thanks to Andrew Marshall, has told the truth in the Fortune magazine on February 9th. The Pentagon shows a satellite photo of the North Pole in 1970 and then in 2003, which reveals that, according to the Pentagon, 40% of the North Pole has melted in just 33 years. And it is melting faster and faster now. The Pentagon has now proven that all these government statements that the poles are not melting were simply a lie. And it is a lie more damaging than anything that Bush’s Iraq war could possibly throw at the United States.

      The South Pole Melting

      In the South Pole a couple of years ago Larsen A ledge broke off, which surprised many scientists. At that time we were told by the scientific personnel that were studying this event that it was no big deal since this ice ledge had only been connected to the South Pole for about the last ten thousand years.

      And these same scientists also added that Larsen B ledge that was behind Larsen A ledge would never melt as it has been there for many ice ages. Yet last year, Larsen’s B ledge broke off and went to sea. These same scientists said that it would take six months to melt because of its immense size, but again they were wrong. It melted in a mere 35 days, and more significant, it rose the entire world’s oceans by almost an inch.

      Now with Larsen’s B ledge gone, an incredibly enormous ice shelf called Ross’s Shelf is exposed and the only thing holding Ross’s Shelf from sliding into the ocean was Larsen’s B ledge. According to my sources, Ross’s Shelf is now cracking.

      If Ross’s Shelf were to slide into the ocean, it has been estimated that it would raise the entire world’s oceans by sixteen to twenty feet. And that, my friends, would change the world, as almost every coastal city in the world and many islands along with the county of Holland would be underwater. Perhaps it will take an event like this to wake up the world to become serious about Global Warming.

      THE ANCIENT PAST

      1300 AD

      The Pentagon in their study of what is now happening in the North Atlantic ocean, has looked into the past to see when this slowing down or stoppage of the Gulf Stream has happened before and what actually took place at those time in the world’s weather patterns.

      In actual fact, this North Atlantic ocean slowing or stoppage has happen hundreds of times before in the past going back hundred of millions years, but in our recent past of the last 10,000 years, it has only happened twice.

      The most recent time was in the year 1300 AD, and at that time it simply slowed down. It never actually stopped. And why it slowed down, scientists are at the moment theorizing. They don’t really know why.

      It resulted in abrupt global climatic weather changes that never returned to normal for 550 years. This period of time in our history has been named the “Little Ice Age” because of the havoc it caused to our weather and the dramatic cooling that resulted.

      What the Pentagon has realized is that at that time of the “Little Ice Age”, the East Coast of America became extremely cold, while the middle and Western areas of the United States became so dry that the Midwest became a dust bowl and the mountain forests burned to the ground, just as they are doing right now today, for you see, this slowing down of the Gulf Stream has been going on today for about ten years. It also affected Europe dramatically as their weather changed completely during the “Little Ice Age”.

      A study of the Anasazi Indians of the 14th century is enlightening. In Chaco Canyon in New Mexico the Anasazi completely disappeared, and where they went no one is sure. But one of the reasons that has emerged from the study of the New Mexico environment for their leaving the area is that soon after the turn of the 14th century, Chaco Canyon went into a drought where they didn’t receive a drop of rain for 47 years! 47 years of drought will definitely cause anyone to move. No water, no life.

      The archeologists who presented this study didn’t know why the drought happened, but it is clear why it happened with the information of the Gulf Stream slowing down just before this period. And this is exactly what the Pentagon believes is about to happen here in America, Canada and Europe as we speak.

      We may think that this current drought in the US West is going to stop soon, but the earth’s history with the Gulf Stream suggests strongly that it will continue for about another 40 years before it begin to regain balance.

      8200 Years Ago

      However, the Pentagon report believes that the Gulf Stream, from everything they know, is not just going to slow down, but rather it is going to stop. And the last time this happened was 8200 years ago.

      And according to the Pentagon, from their research, this is a much more dramatic scenario. When the Gulf Stream stopped 8200 years ago, it soon left Northern Europe under a half mile of ice, and New York and England quickly endured weather similar to Siberia.
      Further it resulted in a true “Ice Age” that lasted about 100 years, and so you can see why the Pentagon is so worried. According to Andrew Marshall, like Sir David King, he says that this Gulf Stream problem is a greater threat to US national security (and other countries’) than all of the world’s combined terrorism. Really, when you think about it, terrorism is nothing compared to the stopping of the Gulf Stream. It’s not even close.

      Realize that without stable weather conditions, the growing of food becomes almost impossible, and according to the Pentagon, this could become such a huge problem for the world in the near future, that wars will begin to form all over the world, not for oil or energy, but for food and water.

      And with whole countries having to evacuate, if this were to happen, such as Finland, Sweden and Denmark, which will be under ice, and many other countries for other reasons, this enormous immigration is what will cause the most threat to national security, again according to the Pentagon report.

      This is why Andrew Marshall and Sir David King wanted the world to know about what was coming so that the world could begin to prepare for the inevitable.

      THE US SENATE

      Then in March 2004 the US Senate became aware of what the Pentagon was saying and they appropriated 60 million dollars to the study of ABRUPT GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGES. This offers hope that soon the US Senate will begin to tell the world of these coming climate changes.

      THE UNITED NATIONS

      In June 2004, ending on June 29th, a meeting was held at the United Nations to consider what to do about Global Warming and the Gulf Stream. 154 countries participated with the result that the only thing they could figure out what to do was to eliminate the use of oil and gasoline as soon as possible.

      There are those who believe that if we continue to lower the CO2 levels, that possibly we can slow down the problems, and, of course, we must do everything we can. This is important for there are ocean currents other that the North Atlantic that are in every ocean, and if they all were to stop or slow down, Earth would all most certainly enter a true ice age. And history has shown that if that were to happen, our civilization would not return to a warm period again for 90,000 years.

      But really, to change or increase the current of the entire Atlantic ocean to bring it back to “normal” is beyond the possibilities of the human race and all of it’s technologies. It is too late, by the estimate of most of the world’s scientists, to alter the course of what is about to happen. All we can do now is prepare for the shock. And preparation is essential, which is the main message of both Sir David King and Andrew Marshall.

      NASA PREPARES

      On July 13th, 2004, NASA launched a satellite, the first of three, that’s whole purpose is to study Global Warming. Besides the study of the ozone, another huge problem associated with Global Warming, these satellites will monitor the temperature and salt density of the oceans. Perhaps we will at least be able to monitor the rapid changes and predict what will happen next.

      SOME UNUSUAL WEATHER CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED
      SINCE THE GULF STREAM SLOWED DOWN

      In March 2004 the world saw a major hurricane hit the coast of Brazil. This is the first time in all recorded history that a hurricane has struck land in South America.

      In May 2004, the United States witnessed 562 tornadoes in a single month, breaking all records. A few of these tornadoes were recorded in Seattle, Washington. Never has a tornado been seen in Seattle.

      Eastern Canada in the winter of 2003/2004 just had one of the coldest winters on record.

      For several years forest fires have been burning around the world. The list would be extensive. The north part of Australia is on fire. Alaska, as we have already mentioned, is burning. Unprecedented!

      The entire Western United States is under fire, jumping from region to region, with the US government announcing that this is the worse drought in 500 years. Really, the fires are worldwide.

      France and Europe had a heat wave in 2003 that caused 15,000 people to die in France and 30,000 through-out Europe simply from the intense heat caused by Global Warming and the Gulf Stream.

      Argentina this month July 2004, had the greatest storm they have ever seen in their history.

      Mexico’s weather is so strange and wet in some regions that mold/fungus is forming on their crops. (And in other regions they are having a drought) As weather patterns begin to change more and more radically, food growth will become one of our biggest problems.

      The coral reefs of the world are dying because of Global Warming, and this is threatening most of the islands in the oceans, including those in the Pacific. Anyone living on most islands will probably have to leave sooner or later because of their fresh water being corrupted with salt ocean water. Definitely they will have to leave if the oceans rise much higher.

      Further, it was reported on NPR this morning, July 16, 2004, that fifty percent of the CO2 that has been released in the atmosphere from our technological society has ended up in our oceans and this in turn is dropping the PH to the acidic. This in turn is actually dissolving the coral reefs and killing them along with vast numbers of other life forms in the oceans.

      These are problems simply off the top of my head. If one were to get serious and really research all the strange weather problems of the last ten years (the years the Gulf Stream slowed down) one would begin to be truly aware of the coming abrupt global climate weather changes that we must all adapt to if humanity is to continue on Earth.

      THE 40-FOOT WALL

      In the Pentagon report it suggests that the United States build a 40-foot wall around the entire country to keep out people who are immigrating and trying to escape world weather problems. The Pentagon believes that food and water will be the biggest problem, and since the US has the money to buy food, they believe we will be best able to resist this particular problem longer than most countries. People will want to come here just to get food.

      This sounds like something out of a weird movie, but in fact the US government has already begun the construction of this wall between the US and Mexico.

      SIDE NOTE: Speaking of movies, The Day After Tomorrow, which was recently released is based on this information of the Gulf Stream stopping. However, Hollywood exaggerated the results of the storms so much that most people simply thought it was fantasy. It is not fantasy, it is really happening, but will it happen as this movie predicts? And in this movie you saw massive amount of Americans fleeing to Mexico to escape the extreme cold weather.

      I just spoke with a US military person about two weeks ago who is involved in the construction of this 40-foot wall. In the discussion, with him about the Gulf Stream, which he was unaware of, he said, “Oh, now I understand. You see, the wall is straight up and down on the Mexican side, but it has steps and ladders on the US side to get over the wall and into Mexico. I never could understand why the government was doing this.”

      THE CHANGING OF THE SHAPE OF THE GULF STREAM

      In the Pentagon report they said that they believed that the stoppage of the Gulf Stream would probably happen in three to five years from October 2003. This was their best guess, and admittedly it was only a guess and a theory.

      But what they didn’t know, because it was beginning at the actual time of their release of their report, was that the Gulf Stream was beginning to change shape. The change of shape of the Gulf Stream is the beginning of the breakdown and stoppage of this warm water current and the end of our civilization as we know it.

      I have this information from two sources, both of which do not wish to be named right now, but both of them are world famous scientists.

      If this is true, then all the effects and timing of the Pentagon report have to be shifted closer to the present by three to five years.

      I don’t know if this is true, but in the vein of holding nothing back, this info is placed in this article. The actual proof will follow if it will be given to me.

      FROM MY HEART TO YOURS

      As I became aware of this information, I didn’t know what to do or if I should write this article. But because I believe in and love humanity, I finally realized, like Sir David King and Andrew Marshall, that I must speak out, for knowledge is power.

      And when the time comes for us all to make life decisions, my prayer is that we all go inside where God resides and listen to our inner Heart. If we trust in ourselves and the presence of Divine Guidance, we will all know exactly what to do and where to be.

      May God bless us all in what is about to come.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I wasn't around for any of the day after tommorrow threads that I can only assume were around, since I didn't want to see all the spoilers. This has basicly been what I was predicting for a while based on the scientific evidence I have seen on global warming, except I didn't know about the northern current, and I predicted a much more violent effect over a longer period of time. Anyways, obviously he doesn't give any evidence to support his timeframes, and realistically, the disaster he describes doesn't look unlivable (except for the masses and masses of people in northern europe and northern canada), prosumably a little scientific workmanship could produce alot more food worldwide then we are at the moment. Anyways, discuss.

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  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    Damn you get some wierd junk mail m8. You sure you're not pulling my leg? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    ~edit~

    Well I'm just skimming though this but it appears it has something to do with global warming being real which, no offense, is not news. Some one remind me how many years ago we first started getting definitive evidence of global warming... I know it was before the change of the millenium... Any ecologists otu there remember the dates?

    PS: What the hell does Global Warming have to do with President Bush?

    Did you know that global warming is more affected by avail water in the air more than CO2? Granted human use of fossil fuels are having signifigant, proven impact on the planet to where climates and biomes are changing. But this is way old news. Actually humans will be more or less fine as long as we can have ample sunlight for our food and to keep the algae in the oceans making oxygen. Don't get me wrong, since we are as far as we know the only life in the entire universe we need to take tremendous care to keep our little happy biosphere healthy and protect the environement.

    But still, the only connection I see at all to Bush is his stuff with big oil and promoting highly polluting vehicles like those damned SUVs.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Once Bush became president, however, reducing carbon emissions was the first promise he broke<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I can't believe I'm about to do this but I'm actually going to defend Bush a little on this one. >< Ok, it's more that his tax cut bill got "changed" by his party so that loopholes would purposely exist. (happens all the time actually) Personally, I'm **** at the Senate more than Bush for breaking his promises on Carbon emissions. I knew when he said that, that it wouldn't work any more than a zealous forumite vows to wage war on cheating.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    The artical is totally nonsensical, and I have no idea what the guy who wrote it was thinking, basicly he postualtes that we should stop fossil fule emmissions because of global warming, well its kind of too late for that, because all the trends we are seeing right now indicate that global warming is going to happen one way or another, even if we were to stop it will continue until the climate shifts and the next iceage starts. I would probably give more than 3 years the artical states for this to happen, but you never know. For all we know the additional warming of the climate that we initiated may have acctually dulled the eventual effect of the next ice age, but it is yet to be seen. Anyways, man has lived through a few ice ages before, so it might suck for a while, and a bunch of people will probably die, but we'll pull through in the end.
  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    edited October 2004
    Course they are gonna deny it. What do you expect them to say "Oh yeah, the polar caps might be melting and we all might die in 5 years, btw." MASS HYSTERIA!

    I love the pentagon's plan.
    "Oh man... we've got a serious problem facing all of humanity. This is serious guys..... what should we do?"
    "..... BUILD A WALL!"

    It's not news to me. Neither is it news that a meteor could fly through the window, hit me in the head, and then I could die. Same here. We're only theorizing... it's freaky to think about it. I'm all for the reduction of CO2, but there isn't anything we can do about this. The earth is in a constant change of warm age, ice age, warm age, ice age, warm age, ice age. We're in a warm age, and we're bound to go to an ice age eventually. It's times like this that I wish I was a penguin.

    1000th post tbh.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Alkiller+Oct 26 2004, 09:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Alkiller @ Oct 26 2004, 09:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Course they are gonna deny it. What do you expect them to say "Oh yeah, the polar caps might be melting and we all might die in 5 years, btw." MASS HYSTERIA!

    I love the pentagon's plan.
    "Oh man... we've got a serious problem facing all of humanity. This is serious guys..... what should we do?"
    "..... BUILD A WALL!"

    It's not news to me. Neither is it news that a meteor could fly through the window, hit me in the head, and then I could die. Same here. We're only theorizing... it's freaky to think about it. I'm all for the reduction of CO2, but there isn't anything we can do about this. The earth is in a constant change of warm age, ice age, warm age, ice age, warm age, ice age. We're in a warm age, and we're bound to go to an ice age eventually. It's times like this that I wish I was a penguin.

    1000th post tbh. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Its not like we'd all die anyways, very few people would die from the weather, some would probably die from starvation, but what has really changed there? Anyways its a little more likely to happen then a meteor falling through your window.
  • tbZBeAsttbZBeAst Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12755Members
    Like it, very comedic.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    edited October 2004
    "Ruling out the icecaps melting, some meteor becoming crash into us, the ozone layer leaving and the sun exploding, we're definitely going to blow ourselves up."

    We've known for a long time that <b>"OMG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!"</b> In fact, remember back in 2000, when all those computers started a global thermonuclear war because of the Y2k bug? Back when we all perished in the ensuing nuclear winter? Yeah, that was a tough time really. But I'm getting used to this "having my entire race wiped out" bit. It can't be nearly as bad the second time around. By the third time, it'll be business as usual. By the forth time, it'll have extreme sports dedicated to it, like "Rampant Street Rietoring ExTrEme!!"

    Now we're just waiting for someone to make a profit out of this and make a movie about it. Oh wait...
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    Death and drama predictions have been around since religion, nothing new here folks...
  • R_A_CR_A_C Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16273Members
    reading that article/ email thing was so NOT worth my time. WTH can I do about a coming ice age? If it ever occurs I'll just move to arizona or hawaii. And before you say hawaii will sink, I'll live on one of the mountains.
  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    In other news, ice samples drilled through thousands and thousands of years of ice indicate that the earth goes through a global warming process naturally every so often.
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    First, Happy 1000th Alkiller! <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Second,
    <!--QuoteBegin-Alkiller+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Alkiller)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The earth is in a constant change of warm age, ice age, warm age, ice age, warm age, ice age. We're in a warm age, and we're bound to go to an ice age eventually.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Indeed, but I hope you aren't saying that humans are not having a major impact on global warming this time arround in the cycle, because we are. That I can prove to you simply by looking at a temperature chart over a 500 million year span and/or by looking at gobal maps showing the change in biomes, temperatures, precipitation, jet steam & ocean current patterns, atmospheric composition, and a radiation index.

    TRIVIA: <b>What was the biggest extinction Earth has ever has as of yet? </b>
    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>(note: big in this sense doesn't mean organism mass but rather taxonomic lineages terminated, the number of species in otherwords)</span>

    ~edit~

    <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Death and drama predictions have been around since religion, nothing new here folks... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wow! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> A deep and right on comment by Forlorn. I'm impressed. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Totally agree with you m8.
  • CronosCronos Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1542Members
    Answer to Trivia Question: The Permian extinction event. 99.999% of all life wiped out by that single event. The cause was a combination of volcanism leading to a 5 degree temperature rise. This in turn triggered the melting of methane deposits on the seabed, when this gushed up to the surface, the resulting greenhouse effect lead to another temperature rise of 5 degrees. Total rise of 10 degrees on average wiped out almost all life. GG.

    In regards to the original topic though: It's scare mongering. It was there just prior to 2000 with all those "ZOMGZ TEH MILLENIUM PWN US ALL OLO1!!" and of course Y2K yadda yadda yadda. Just ignore it and get on with your life.
  • WarningForeverWarningForever Join Date: 2004-05-06 Member: 28503Members
    OMGWBQ!?!

    TeH Wurld will end, OJMG

    Thenks you emailzors! I knoes you speakares the trooth!

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  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    edited October 2004
    Clearly, a few inches of water indicates the apocalypse.

    Edit :
    To the topic creater - you realize we technically have the food to feed nearly the entire world, but not the logistics or willpower to make it happen? :/

    That last paragraph about "scientists solving world hunger" just seemed a tad silly.
  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    I remember while in High School 2 days in December were 90 degrees out. FRIGGEN 90 Farhenheit!!!!!! Its suppose to be snowing like hell! I notice as a kid all the weather has totally changed. Summer wasnt that warm but winter was much much warmer than ever.

    Maybe it has to do with global warming maybe it didnt. Maybe it was the Earth's way of saying "Wee something new for ya". Either way we are going to die two different ways. A big war or a huge asteriod :/
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cronos+Oct 29 2004, 01:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cronos @ Oct 29 2004, 01:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Answer to Trivia Question: The Permian extinction event. 99.999% of all life wiped out by that single event. The cause was a combination of volcanism leading to a 5 degree temperature rise. This in turn triggered the melting of methane deposits on the seabed, when this gushed up to the surface, the resulting greenhouse effect lead to another temperature rise of 5 degrees. Total rise of 10 degrees on average wiped out almost all life. GG.

    In regards to the original topic though: It's scare mongering. It was there just prior to 2000 with all those "ZOMGZ TEH MILLENIUM PWN US ALL OLO1!!" and of course Y2K yadda yadda yadda. Just ignore it and get on with your life. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ironic how evolution seems to continually produce so many species of animals that are so vulnerable to global changes that the world continuously cycles through. And when if finally produces a species that can survive practically any global condition, that creature seems bent on distroying itself <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cronos+Oct 29 2004, 01:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cronos @ Oct 29 2004, 01:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Answer to Trivia Question: The Permian extinction event. 99.999% of all life wiped out by that single event. The cause was a combination of volcanism leading to a 5 degree temperature rise. This in turn triggered the melting of methane deposits on the seabed, when this gushed up to the surface, the resulting greenhouse effect lead to another temperature rise of 5 degrees. Total rise of 10 degrees on average wiped out almost all life. GG. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->- Permian Period (286-248 million years ago)

    - Terrestrial faunal diversification occurred in the Permian

    - 90-95% of marine species became extinct in the Permian
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    Sorry m8, which that was a major extinction for sure your answer is <span style='color:red'><b>wrong</b></span>. I said, species exterminated by decendant options, not biomass. Look for a much, much older extinction.

    <!--QuoteBegin-Spoiler hints+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spoiler hints)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='color:#031D1F'>The lifeform at this time period is pretty much unicelluar.
    Obligate anaerobes were the ones that got wiped out. (which was most of the species at that time period)
    Banded Iron Formations.
    Oxygen is the cause, a waste product of photosynthesis.

    FYI:
    The effect still taken for granted but very much of consquence for all life today, the primary evidences of the lethality of oxygen is the reason why lifeforms age and why organism with high antioxidants life longer than ones with less. Birds and plants like trees would age much much faster if they didn't have high antioxidant content. One new research interest is a way to increase the ammounts of antioxidants in humans to easily double the potential lifespan. The fact still remains, oxygen is unstable (form free radicals easily) and these dislocated oxygen atoms wreak serious damage on life.

    Why is it the largest extinction on earth?
    With genome mapping we now know that all life except for those few surviving unicellular obligate anaerobic species are descended from aerobes. We take living in an toxic oxygen planet for granted since we depend on it, but the entire evolution of life and it necessity to deal with ageing was changed when cyanobacteria learn how to photosynthesize.</span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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