Ut Map Conversion - Deck16][

GhozerGhozer Join Date: 2003-05-22 Member: 16617Members, Constellation
edited October 2004 in Mapping Forum
See <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=75968&st=45&hl=' target='_blank'>this</a> post for the history (Pics may not work)

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any ways, my PC is now back, My mouse died, so bought a new one, and FINALLY decided to get to work and finish the map, its now almost complete, just need to go round and check the textures, and do the lighting... sooo..

Ill need some people for a closed beta test.. Please remember when testing this is a conversion of a UT(99) map and may need some additions/changes to make it more NS Friendly (like vents etc) -- this is intended as a Fun "custom" map not as a serious game
its a COMBAT map so only play if you like combat <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> - i estimate the end of the week for map completion (thats the 30th APPROX)

See me on IRC in #NSMapping on GameSurge or #scF.comm on QuakeNet

Thanx...

<b>**EDIT**</b>

I Forgot to mention, I'd rather have people who have played this map in UT before so they know the map to give poinions, point out faults etc.. and ideas..

When replying to this thread, please include your IRC name (If different from forum handle) so i can contact you about the testing <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> thnx

<b>*** TESTING ***</b>

Im Aiming for 2 tests, the first as an initial test, and the second AFTER fixing bugs and reoslving issues the first test shows up.. the first one will (hopefully) be on the 29th and the second, on the 31'st.. ill announce the times as-soon as i work out when i am available <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • CloistCloist Join Date: 2004-02-04 Member: 26041Members
    Finally dude, there was alot of interest in the last thread but your pc died.
    Hope im in the beta test <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • CartiCarti Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18099Members, Constellation
    A conversion of the best UT map ever. Awesome!

    I'd be proud to beta test.
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  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    Deck 16 was originated as a map in the original unreal, not UT, just to let you guys know. Although I believe it has appeared in every incarnation. Great map.
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  • Once_OnlyOnce_Only Join Date: 2004-05-15 Member: 28700Members
    yeah but deck-16][ was a UT map <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • bluemanblueman Join Date: 2002-04-09 Member: 399Members
    ok some pics in this thread please?
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  • GhozerGhozer Join Date: 2003-05-22 Member: 16617Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    Ok, I have now got some Screenshos for you -- these are UnCompiled so the lighting isnt correct, but its to give you an idea of how its looking <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    .
    ComChair and Armoury Placement - Where the GES BioRifle used to be.....

    <img src='http://www.clanscf.com/deck16/comchair-armoury.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    <img src='http://www.clanscf.com/deck16/comchair-armoury_2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    A Couple of shots of the Central Area, and corridor.....

    <img src='http://www.clanscf.com/deck16/view_1-edge_of_mid.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    <img src='http://www.clanscf.com/deck16/view_2-top_of_mid.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    <img src='http://www.clanscf.com/deck16/view_3-corridor_fromCC.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    A View from the (proposed) Hive location Towards Corner/Corridor...... (Slime pit behind where Sniper Rifle used to be)

    <img src='http://www.clanscf.com/deck16/view_4-hive_to_corridor.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />



    *** P.S. ***

    Still looking for Testers <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • MalevolentMalevolent Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18842Members
    I'll test it for you. I love the layout for it when playing it for UT. I assume you are just going to enlarge it, so it is bigger. The regular scale would be way too small. How are you going to work the middle too (the platforms that slant upwards)? I really can't say how it plays until I can play it.
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  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    I've played the original Unreal Multiplayer maps and I must say that this one isn't the most NS friendly one to choose. Onoses just won't be touched by anyone who knows what an Onos is. At the same time it'll be nice to see more Lerks in Combat, but I also fear that their spores and umbra will only be effective for diving attacks. Even the corridors in this map are huge so Aliens aren't gonna have fun with out celerity/adrenaline speed combos. It's also quite big for a Combat map, and the lifts next to the Hive might be incredibly annoying gameplay-wise. Have you thought about changing them to ladders?

    At a guess the Marines will have a very easy time of this, I'd recommend putting the Hive in a more enclosed place of the map with closer corridors, where it is now just means that whenever the Aliens step out from the Hive they'll be 0wned. Maybe you wanna wait 'til playtesting to find that out but I've got a pretty strong feeling that's what'll happen.

    I think a better map for a Unreal > NS Combat conversion would be the one with the giant heal pod in the middle. (trigger_hurt doing negative damage anyone?). Someone needs to get on it before I do.

    EDIT: Yes 'random' spawning locations would balance it out a bit, apart from the fact that Aliens respawn as skulks now and that Marines might run out of ammo before they get to the Armoury, so resupply is an absolute must.
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  • CartiCarti Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18099Members, Constellation
    Just a little thing, but in your first pic where the command chair is, i see water. In the game, it is lava as we see here.

    <img src='http://www.geocities.com/cartman2b2002/2.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    Maybe you could change it to lava?

    The same is for this pool of lava here.

    <img src='http://www.geocities.com/cartman2b2002/one.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
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  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    i love your desktop cart. where'd you get those icons?
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  • CartiCarti Join Date: 2003-07-12 Member: 18099Members, Constellation
    Please dont go off topic dude..

    Here they are.

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59634' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...showtopic=59634</a>
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  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    In the second shot Cartman posted you'll notice a grating section in front of some pipes running down the side of the lava pit. If you're still set on keeping the Hive where it is then I'd recommend you throw in some vent entrances along there.
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  • GiGaBiTeGiGaBiTe Join Date: 2003-10-07 Member: 21489Members
    um cartman, thats deck16]|[

    this is a remake of the ORIGINAL unreal tournament level deck16][, and in the deck16][ map thats acid not lava. most of the ut maps that were remade for ut2k4 look better, but me personally as an old gamer i like the original better.
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  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    i have 1 request

    MAKE IT DEATHMATCH!!!

    i imagine it wont be too hard to do seal off the hive and CC and then just put random spawn points everywhere and make it a combat map
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  • GhozerGhozer Join Date: 2003-05-22 Member: 16617Members, Constellation
    I had thought about that Crono - but there would need to be a mod made (Amx or adminmod script) to allow X team to win on X Kills or X player to win on X kills, either way that is an easy thing to do if somones willing to write the mod <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    and i'd be happy to do it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • EnceladusEnceladus Join Date: 2004-01-18 Member: 25442Members
    you could make a counter for each team with a targetname game_playerkill which count's the kills. and after x kills the corresopnding objective. hive/cc get's destroyed. Not sure if the game_playerkill properly works in NS, but maybe it's worth a try.. and if it works.. welcome to deathmatch <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • CMasterCMaster Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21922Members
    Correction - those phots are of Deck 17 - the 2k3/2k4 version. The remake is of Deck 16 ][ - the UT99 version.

    Oh and the CC is where the Flak cannon always is, not the biorifle.
    Thismap really is gonna need vents for tehaliens to have a chance.
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  • GiGaBiTeGiGaBiTe Join Date: 2003-10-07 Member: 21489Members
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Correction - those phots are of Deck 17 - the 2k3/2k4 version.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    im pretty sure its called deck16 ]|[, ill fire up ut 2k4 soon and see. and the original deck16 was in unreal as a deathmatch map.

    so we got this so far:

    deck16 (the original) - unreal
    deck16 ][ - unreal tournament
    deck16 ]|[ - unreal tournament 2003/2004


    lol i remember playing unreal on my voodoo1 card back in '96. now thats an old game.
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  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    <!--QuoteBegin-GiGaBiTe+Oct 27 2004, 05:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GiGaBiTe @ Oct 27 2004, 05:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol i remember playing unreal on my voodoo1 card back in '96. now thats an old game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ironically, it came out only a few months before halflife.
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  • GiGaBiTeGiGaBiTe Join Date: 2003-10-07 Member: 21489Members
    edited October 2004
    ever heard of betas <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    and are you talking about UT?

    im talking about unreal 1, you know the predecessor to unreal 2?
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  • MADMEEMADMEE Join Date: 2004-07-23 Member: 30059Members
    god damm i love unreal... and then UT... back on topic.. map looks good. altho the time from 1 base to the other looks like its going to be really short. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> id like to beable to test the map
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  • GhozerGhozer Join Date: 2003-05-22 Member: 16617Members, Constellation
    I decided (after a closed test with a couple of clan mates) to move the hive..

    to make it more "NS" Friendly (ok, its a co map but still...) I added a new room for the hive, it sitll looks and feels like deck 16...

    heres a picture of the new room(hive room) in its current state...
    <img src='http://www.clanscf.com/deck16/new_hive-room.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
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  • GiGaBiTeGiGaBiTe Join Date: 2003-10-07 Member: 21489Members
    i messaged you ghozer.

    i have a feeling that r_speeds are going to be a problem :/
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  • BelgarionBelgarion Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 973Members
    edited October 2004
    interesting. Deck16 was my fav map from Unreal, and in UT. Awesome map. A good conversion here i might add, though it looks... well... it seems like the textures are too dark. i remember the floor particularly being a rather light concrete texture.

    :edit: just realized you're remaking Deck16 ][. ignor my texture ignorance
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  • GhozerGhozer Join Date: 2003-05-22 Member: 16617Members, Constellation
    for thoes who "complain" about the textures ALL the textures (Except the slime/water ones) are imported directly from UT << The Slime and Water ones arent because they are animated textures in UT, and HL doesnt support that type of animated texture..

    The walls, walkways etc.. all the same textures as UT

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    *** Beta Test Update ***

    The FIRST test will be on the 28th @ 10pm(GMT) - Come to #scF.comm @ QuakeNet or check this thread for the Server IP, Map download location and password etc...
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ghozer+Oct 28 2004, 04:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ghozer @ Oct 28 2004, 04:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> for thoes who "complain" about the textures ALL the textures (Except the slime/water ones) are imported directly from UT << The Slime and Water ones arent because they are animated textures in UT, and HL doesnt support that type of animated texture..

    The walls, walkways etc.. all the same textures as UT <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't think that is allowed, although maybe someone can clarify the matter.
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  • GneralasGneralas Join Date: 2004-01-20 Member: 25523Members
    Deck 16 was one of my favourite maps for UT, and its looking good. I just hope this map lives up to my expectations <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • persoperso Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13740Members, WC 2013 - Supporter
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ghozer+Oct 27 2004, 10:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ghozer @ Oct 27 2004, 10:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The FIRST test will be on the 28th @  10pm(GMT) - Come to #scF.comm @ QuakeNet or check this thread for the Server IP, Map download location and password etc... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    sure thing, will come <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • GhozerGhozer Join Date: 2003-05-22 Member: 16617Members, Constellation
    The Server Will be:

    193.151.73.24:27015 #scF.comm @ QuakeNet > Fun Server < [OwP]

    Password:

    blah123

    Map Download:

    (not yet uploaded)
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  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    <!--QuoteBegin-GiGaBiTe+Oct 27 2004, 08:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GiGaBiTe @ Oct 27 2004, 08:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ever heard of betas <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    and are you talking about UT?

    im talking about unreal 1, you know the predecessor to unreal 2? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreal' target='_blank'>Unreal</a> was released on March 30th in 1998. <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life' target='_blank'>Half Life</a> was released on October 31st 1998.
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