<!--QuoteBegin-BigBull+Oct 30 2004, 03:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigBull @ Oct 30 2004, 03:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it is real. My friend went to a recent rally around here, and he put up an Anti-Bush sign and was <b>yelling profanities.</b>
Secret Service were at his house. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Good going.
Though honestly ,why not check up on these things? It's not like they hauled them away, is it?
<!--QuoteBegin-404NotFound+Oct 30 2004, 03:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Oct 30 2004, 03:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BigBull+Oct 30 2004, 03:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigBull @ Oct 30 2004, 03:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it is real. My friend went to a recent rally around here, and he put up an Anti-Bush sign and was <b>yelling profanities.</b>
Secret Service were at his house. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Good going.
Though honestly ,why not check up on these things? It's not like they hauled them away, is it? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Because he isn't doing anything illegal? Now if he had threatend the president then I could understand.
I don't know about this article though, they use FBI and Secret Service interchangably...
<!--QuoteBegin-404NotFound+Oct 30 2004, 03:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Oct 30 2004, 03:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-BigBull+Oct 30 2004, 03:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigBull @ Oct 30 2004, 03:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it is real. My friend went to a recent rally around here, and he put up an Anti-Bush sign and was <b>yelling profanities.</b>
Secret Service were at his house. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Good going.
Though honestly ,why not check up on these things? It's not like they hauled them away, is it?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> of course! because seditious terrorists are a real threat to our idyllic existence!
<!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And Freedom of speech is where?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As Bush would say as he waves his hand in front of your face, <i>"This isn't the constitutional, unalienable right that you're looking for."</i>
<!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+Oct 30 2004, 05:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Oct 30 2004, 05:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And Freedom of speech is where? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It died long ago, when we started making governments. GG USA.
<!--QuoteBegin-reasa+Oct 30 2004, 09:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reasa @ Oct 30 2004, 09:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Makes sense to me, look at history, it's normally not foreign enemies who assassinate US presidents it's crazy homegrown nut jobs.
I'm glad to see the Secret Service is doing its job. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Spending time searching online forums for people badmouthing the pres? Yeah, that definatly worth my tax dollars. Hell, I'll do that job if they pay me.
<!--QuoteBegin-reasa+Oct 30 2004, 03:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reasa @ Oct 30 2004, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Makes sense to me, look at history, it's normally not foreign enemies who assassinate US presidents it's crazy homegrown nut jobs.
I'm glad to see the Secret Service is doing its job. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Hmm, If I say I plan on assanating John Kerry, do I get a nifty visit from the Men In Black? If so, Kerry, you better watch out!!!
<!--QuoteBegin-Frikk+Oct 30 2004, 04:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Frikk @ Oct 30 2004, 04:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Spending time searching online forums for people badmouthing the pres? Yeah, that definatly worth my tax dollars. Hell, I'll do that job if they pay me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Maybe if you had actually <i>read</i> the text we're talking about you would know someone on this Live Journal thing reported him. They are not personally scouring internet forums, they don't have the time or the man power.
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<!--QuoteBegin-reasa+Oct 30 2004, 10:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reasa @ Oct 30 2004, 10:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Frikk+Oct 30 2004, 04:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Frikk @ Oct 30 2004, 04:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Spending time searching online forums for people badmouthing the pres? Yeah, that definatly worth my tax dollars. Hell, I'll do that job if they pay me. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Maybe if you had actually <i>read</i> the text we're talking about you would know someone on this Live Journal thing reported him. They are not personally scouring internet forums, they don't have the time or the man power. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> But they have the time and the manpower to visit teenagers who rant in Livejournals?
Obviously they don't pay people to troll the internet looking for stuff like that. That's the NSA's job, since they have Echelon.
Speaking of Echelon, bomb the White House George Bush John Kerry gun control Christian Coalition terrorist Afghanistan Iraq Al-Qaeda (is that how it's spelled?) Saddam Hussein Israel Palestine Pakistan nuclear warhead. Hello Mr. Echelon Checker! Do you know Sam Fisher?
<!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hmm, If I say I plan on assanating John Kerry, do I get a nifty visit from the Men In Black? If so, Kerry, you better watch out!!!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> haven't you heard the news? only the republican party is allowed to ignore the constitution.
<!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+Oct 30 2004, 11:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Oct 30 2004, 11:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Obviously they don't pay people to troll the internet looking for stuff like that. That's the NSA's job, since they have Echelon.
Speaking of Echelon, bomb the White House George Bush John Kerry gun control Christian Coalition terrorist Afghanistan Iraq Al-Qaeda (is that how it's spelled?) Saddam Hussein Israel Palestine Pakistan nuclear warhead. Hello Mr. Echelon Checker! Do you know Sam Fisher? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> LOL
But Echelon isnt only used by the US, Australia suggested that it existed although im pretty confident it does.
Terrorism is the beggining of the end of personal rights tho, just because you rant about something online does not mean it should be followd up maby if there was constant talk of it but one message is a little extreem.
In the UK they cant cantrol most of the problems on the street if they spent that kind of man power checking up on forum post tip offs then I can gurantee there will be some lobbying of MPs, MSPs, councilers and MEPs.
if he was saying anything threatening towards the president then his right to free speech was thrown out the window. Threats make it go from talk to a matter of national security. Im glad the Secret Service is doing their job.
<!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+Oct 31 2004, 09:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Oct 31 2004, 09:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And Freedom of speech is where? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> "You know, there ought to be limits on freedom."
<!--QuoteBegin-version91x+Oct 30 2004, 11:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (version91x @ Oct 30 2004, 11:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+Oct 31 2004, 09:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Oct 31 2004, 09:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And Freedom of speech is where? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> "You know, there ought to be limits on freedom." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Democracy with 2 parties that have pretty similar policies you have to ask yourself where is the choice?
To become president you need MEGA bucks in order to fund a campain meaning not everyoen can be president.
I hate to say it but the Uk is heading a similar way althoguh the Scottish Parliament is clsoer to a true democracy since it uses Porporsional Representation against regular First Past The Post system.
<!--QuoteBegin-reasa+Oct 30 2004, 04:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reasa @ Oct 30 2004, 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Makes sense to me, look at history, it's normally not foreign enemies who assassinate US presidents it's crazy homegrown nut jobs.
I'm glad to see the Secret Service is doing its job. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, I'm glad to see that the Secret Service is being the US's own NKVD.
<!--QuoteBegin-version91x+Oct 31 2004, 09:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (version91x @ Oct 31 2004, 09:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+Oct 31 2004, 09:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Oct 31 2004, 09:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And Freedom of speech is where? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> "You know, there ought to be limits on freedom." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I was reading through this thread, waiting, just waiting for this to come up.
This is possibly the funniest and saddest thing to ever come out of Bush's mouth.
Unfortunately, I am unaware of the context the quote comes from (I know, shock-horror, an NSF Australian that isn't fully aware of exactly everything that has happened on the US election campaign trail - weirdly rare, ehy?)
Does anyone know the context?
I'm not saying that the context would justify saying something so fundamentally "unamerican", but I would still like to know.
<!--QuoteBegin-Insane+Oct 30 2004, 06:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Insane @ Oct 30 2004, 06:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But they have the time and the manpower to visit teenagers who rant in Livejournals? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> They have an obligation to follow up on tips, and given the current political climate and mounting tensions on both sides due to the election, I'm sure they are taking no chances.
Hay guys, im gonna fly to america and kidnap george bush and then make him eat smelly cheese.
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Update: Zomg! Secerat sarvice at mein door. Knock knock. You gotta bust me out of prison <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-version91x+Oct 30 2004, 06:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (version91x @ Oct 30 2004, 06:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+Oct 31 2004, 09:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Oct 31 2004, 09:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And Freedom of speech is where? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> "You know, there ought to be limits on freedom." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> So... I should be able to kill you, steal all your money, and not have any consequence? Wow! GG, anarchy!
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So... I should be able to kill you, steal all your money, and not have any consequence? Wow! GG, anarchy! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You missed the point.
Damn he should have said that the Secret Service caught him just in time, because he was planning to pull up the pres's house and bust a cap in him. Damn secret service!
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Secret Service were at his house.
Secret Service were at his house. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good going.
Though honestly ,why not check up on these things? It's not like they hauled them away, is it?
Secret Service were at his house. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good going.
Though honestly ,why not check up on these things? It's not like they hauled them away, is it? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because he isn't doing anything illegal? Now if he had threatend the president then I could understand.
I don't know about this article though, they use FBI and Secret Service interchangably...
Silly Americans.
Secret Service were at his house. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good going.
Though honestly ,why not check up on these things? It's not like they hauled them away, is it?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
of course! because seditious terrorists are a real threat to our idyllic existence!
<!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And Freedom of speech is where?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As Bush would say as he waves his hand in front of your face, <i>"This isn't the constitutional, unalienable right that you're looking for."</i>
It died long ago, when we started making governments. GG USA.
I'm glad to see the Secret Service is doing its job.
I'm glad to see the Secret Service is doing its job. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Spending time searching online forums for people badmouthing the pres? Yeah, that definatly worth my tax dollars. Hell, I'll do that job if they pay me.
I'm glad to see the Secret Service is doing its job. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hmm, If I say I plan on assanating John Kerry, do I get a nifty visit from the Men In Black? If so, Kerry, you better watch out!!!
Silly Americans. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Even though I am American....
I must agree.
Maybe if you had actually <i>read</i> the text we're talking about you would know someone on this Live Journal thing reported him. They are not personally scouring internet forums, they don't have the time or the man power.
Maybe if you had actually <i>read</i> the text we're talking about you would know someone on this Live Journal thing reported him. They are not personally scouring internet forums, they don't have the time or the man power. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
But they have the time and the manpower to visit teenagers who rant in Livejournals?
Speaking of Echelon, bomb the White House George Bush John Kerry gun control Christian Coalition terrorist Afghanistan Iraq Al-Qaeda (is that how it's spelled?) Saddam Hussein Israel Palestine Pakistan nuclear warhead. Hello Mr. Echelon Checker! Do you know Sam Fisher?
haven't you heard the news? only the republican party is allowed to ignore the constitution.
Speaking of Echelon, bomb the White House George Bush John Kerry gun control Christian Coalition terrorist Afghanistan Iraq Al-Qaeda (is that how it's spelled?) Saddam Hussein Israel Palestine Pakistan nuclear warhead. Hello Mr. Echelon Checker! Do you know Sam Fisher? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
LOL
But Echelon isnt only used by the US, Australia suggested that it existed although im pretty confident it does.
Terrorism is the beggining of the end of personal rights tho, just because you rant about something online does not mean it should be followd up maby if there was constant talk of it but one message is a little extreem.
In the UK they cant cantrol most of the problems on the street if they spent that kind of man power checking up on forum post tip offs then I can gurantee there will be some lobbying of MPs, MSPs, councilers and MEPs.
"You know, there ought to be limits on freedom."
"You know, there ought to be limits on freedom." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Democracy with 2 parties that have pretty similar policies you have to ask yourself where is the choice?
To become president you need MEGA bucks in order to fund a campain meaning not everyoen can be president.
I hate to say it but the Uk is heading a similar way althoguh the Scottish Parliament is clsoer to a true democracy since it uses Porporsional Representation against regular First Past The Post system.
I'm glad to see the Secret Service is doing its job. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, I'm glad to see that the Secret Service is being the US's own NKVD.
"You know, there ought to be limits on freedom." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was reading through this thread, waiting, just waiting for this to come up.
This is possibly the funniest and saddest thing to ever come out of Bush's mouth.
Unfortunately, I am unaware of the context the quote comes from (I know, shock-horror, an NSF Australian that isn't fully aware of exactly everything that has happened on the US election campaign trail - weirdly rare, ehy?)
Does anyone know the context?
I'm not saying that the context would justify saying something so fundamentally "unamerican", but I would still like to know.
"You know, there ought to be limits on freedom." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
"Now watch me make this drive."
They have an obligation to follow up on tips, and given the current political climate and mounting tensions on both sides due to the election, I'm sure they are taking no chances.
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"You know, there ought to be limits on freedom." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
So... I should be able to kill you, steal all your money, and not have any consequence? Wow! GG, anarchy!
So... I should be able to kill you, steal all your money, and not have any consequence? Wow! GG, anarchy! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You missed the point.
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